It has been in the same place since we moved in 20 years ago.
We have changed the carpet, padding and subflooring all the way to the concrete. There is no wet spot in the concrete. There are no pipes under this part of the house that could cause seepage.
We have no idea what it is.
Any clues?
And it isn't Monster cause he spends the night in C's room.
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It has been in the same place since we moved in 20 years ago.
We have changed the carpet, padding and subflooring all the way to the concrete. There is no wet spot in the concrete. There are no pipes under this part of the house that could cause seepage.
We have no idea what it is.
Any clues?
And it isn't Monster cause he spends the night in C's room.
(1) What kind of heating system do you have?
(2) What kind of air conditioning system to you have?
(3) When was your roof last inspected? Water from a roof leak or a clogged downspout can travel pretty far before dripping from the ceiling of your living room. Or it can drip down inside a wall, and show up almost anywhere.
(4) What does it smell like? Mildew? Urine? alcohol? Detergent or other chemicals?
(5) Is this a slab house, or is there a basement or crawl space under the living room?
(6) Does anyone in the house sleep walk?
(7) If you haven't already, blot some up with white tissues or with white paper towels. What color is it?
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It has been in the same place since we moved in 20 years ago.
We have changed the carpet, padding and subflooring all the way to the concrete. There is no wet spot in the concrete. There are no pipes under this part of the house that could cause seepage.
We have no idea what it is.
Any clues?
And it isn't Monster cause he spends the night in C's room.
(1) What kind of heating system do you have?
Central
(2) What kind of air conditioning system to you have?
Central
(3) When was your roof last inspected? Water from a roof leak or a clogged downspout can travel pretty far before dripping from the ceiling of your living room. Or it can drip down inside a wall, and show up almost anywhere.
No leaks, this is more to the middle of the house.
(4) What does it smell like? Mildew? Urine? alcohol? Detergent or other chemicals?
No smell at all
(5) Is this a slab house, or is there a basement or crawl space under the living room?
The base floor is concrete, but there is a crawl space. No pipes of any kid are under this part of the house. It's about foot from the ground at this place.
(6) Does anyone in the house sleep walk?
No
(7) If you haven't already, blot some up with white tissues or with white paper towels. What color is it?
No color
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If a slab house, you may have a crack in it and water is coming up.
Well we thought about that. But when the carpet was replaced and everything was removed there was absolutely no sign of anything damp.
And dad has been under the house, nothing.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
When I say it feels wet, it's a slightly damp feeling.
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Perhaps there are some pinhole leaks in the pipes inside the walls and the water made its way to the floor? Is the wet spot in an area where there is heavy foot traffic?
Alternatively, do you have a basement underneath? Is it kept cold, and the upstairs kept warm where there could create condensation?
Perhaps there are some pinhole leaks in the pipes inside the walls and the water made its way to the floor? Is the wet spot in an area where there is heavy foot traffic?
Alternatively, do you have a basement underneath? Is it kept cold, and the upstairs kept warm where there could create condensation?
No. Like I said there are no pipes in this area. None.
It is a crawl space about a foot from the ground under a concrete floor.
When we took everything out, there was nothing on the concrete to even suggest water in any way.
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Maybe the best thing would be just to hire someone to come check it out. And you're sure it's damp, not just a cold spot?
We have. Had a guy look at it. He couldn't figure it out either.
And there is a clear line dividing the dry from the damp.
Have no clue. We just don't want to put something like wood or even linoleum down and it grow something under it.
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I think it needs to be looked at under a microscope.
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Perhaps there are some pinhole leaks in the pipes inside the walls and the water made its way to the floor? Is the wet spot in an area where there is heavy foot traffic?
Alternatively, do you have a basement underneath? Is it kept cold, and the upstairs kept warm where there could create condensation?
No. Like I said there are no pipes in this area. None.
It is a crawl space about a foot from the ground under a concrete floor.
When we took everything out, there was nothing on the concrete to even suggest water in any way.
So...
The construction is
dirt
then about a foot of open space
then the concrete slab.
What is holding up the concrete slab?
Is the crawl space ventilated? How? Is it heated or cooled?
FNW could be onto something, with condensation from a temperature differential between the room above and the crawl space below causing the wetness.
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I don't really know cause I am not under the house. In the south we have crawl spaces and vented houses because of the humidity.
It's dry under there.
There is no evidence of moisture on the under side or on the inside of the house.
It is the carpet.
Even the plywood under the padding, the side touching the carpet is discolored but the side touching the concrete is not.
At least that is the way it was when we took up the other carpet.
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I don't really know cause I am not under the house. In the south we have crawl spaces and vented houses because of the humidity.
It's dry under there.
There is no evidence of moisture on the under side or on the inside of the house.
It is the carpet.
Even the plywood under the padding, the side touching the carpet is discolored but the side touching the concrete is not.
At least that is the way it was when we took up the other carpet.
Isn't there supposed to be a moisture barrier between the concrete and the plywood? Concrete has a very high moisture content. (But over 20 years it should have stopped sweating.)
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The house is a 70s ranch. It's way older than 20 years.
And The concrete was "painted" with a barrier when the new carpet was put down.
I don't know what it is.
Honestly I think just leaving the concrete floor might be the answer.
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Is there a window nearby? I remember when we moved in, the house had new windows installed by the prior owner. Unfortunately, one of the windows in the living room were installed upside down. There were two small pinhole sized holes at the top that were exposed. The window looked fine, but whenever we got heavy rains, water would come in from those two little holes and make it's way into our living room floor. A little silicone over the holes and we haven't had a problem since. That and we had new siding put on and it covered the area where the holes are better.
Ok, so if the plywood underneath is dry on the flip side, you need to look up, not down for the answer. I am wondering if there is a small drip on the ceiling above it?
And roof leaks don't usually manifest where the leak is. For example, a leak near the front door in the roof may run along the sub roofing, toward the interior of the house and not show on the ceiling until the center of the room. Something to consider.
P.s. I sold roofing for a year and I know way more about roofing than I should.
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Nope. It is about ten feet from either the windows or the front door.
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Ok, so if the plywood underneath is dry on the flip side, you need to look up, not down for the answer. I am wondering if there is a small drip on the ceiling above it?
And roof leaks don't usually manifest where the leak is. For example, a leak near the front door in the roof may run along the sub roofing, toward the interior of the house and not show on the ceiling until the center of the room. Something to consider.
P.s. I sold roofing for a year and I know way more about roofing than I should.
Nope. Nothing in the space above the ceiling is showing any kind of water damage. We got a new roof about 10 years ago. But no, there is nothing between the roof and the ceiling showing anything.
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That is one reason I said I think it needs to be looked at under a microscope.
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Is there an A/C vent in the ceiling nearby? We used to get a drip from one of our vents during the heat and humidity, condensation where there is a gap between the insulation on the duct/vent fixture.
No. The vents are in the floor, under the window, across the room.
Now this summer we did have to use a window unit and the air came down right over this area. The unit is in the top of the wall across the room so the air blew across the ceiling and down about there. I did notice it get bigger then.
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