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Who is she?

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She's an actress. I forget what show she's off of. Some comedy show. Her claim to fame was she did a commercial for Obama comparing voting to sex and saying it should be with the "right man" and "really special" the first time. She's now come out with a claim that a Republican raped her. I'm not sure how she knows he was a Republican. Doesn't seem like something I'd be asking my rapist.

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She sounds like a flake.

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Some people hail her as the second coming of the new generation. I think she's weird. And yes, a flake.

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And just for the record I am not doubting that she was raped. What him being Republican had to do with it I have no idea. I have a feeling that rapists come in all flavors.

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Is she one of Jeff Dunham's puppets?

It could have been someone she knew well, or a date-rape, or an acquaintance rape. Or he could have told her he was punishing her for her politics.

She might have had a good reason to know his political leanings, but there would have to be some connection between the violence and his politics for this to make sense.

OR someone heard a long, full story, and cherry-picked what they wanted to say about it and her.

 



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I don't get it. I've never seen her show, but she's in the media a lot. She is obnoxious. From what I've read, kind of disgusting too.

The rape sounds far fetched to me. ETA: I don't remember the whole story, so I really shouldn't say that.

The most recent thing she is in the news for is that in her new book she talks about doing things with/to her sister that a lot of people are comparing to child molestation. She got really mad about it, but she literally compared herself to a predator in the quote in the book.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/lena-dunham-responds-to-sex-abuse-claims

So it's on buzzfeed.  I almost started a thread about it. It really grossed me out.

 



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Okay, here's her story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/02/lena-dunham-rape-story_n_5915328.html

 

Lena Dunham Opens Up About Being A Rape Survivor

Posted: 10/02/2014 11:32 am EDT Updated: 10/02/2014 1:59 pm EDT
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"Girls" creator Lena Dunham writes in her new memoir that she was raped as a 19-year-old college student. Over the course of two chapters, she explains that it took her years to come to terms with what happened and to be able to talk about the complexities of her experience in a way that felt truthful to her.

In the chapter "Girls & Jerks," Dunham recalls an "ill-fated evening of lovemaking" with an infamous on-campus Republican. Describing the lead-up to the incident, she writes: "All I knew when I stumbled home from a party behind him was that he was sullen, thuggish, and a poor loser at poker. How that led to intercourse was a study in the way revulsion can quickly become desire when mixed with the right muscle relaxants."

Dunham goes on to set the scene that unfolds between them in her apartment, during which she thought the man was wearing a condom but later realized he wasn't. The condom, Dunham noticed, was actually hanging from a nearby potted plant.

"I think…? The condom’s…? In the tree?” I muttered feverishly.

“Oh,” he said, like he was as shocked as I was. He reached for it as if he was going to put it back on, but I was already up, stumbling towards my couch, which was the closest thing to a garment I could find. I told him he should probably go, chucking his hoodie and boots out the door with him. The next morning, I sat in a shallow bath for half an hour like someone in one of those coming-of-age movies.

At the beginning of the next chapter, titled "Barry," she backtracks, writing:

I'm an unreliable narrator ... mostly because in another essay in this book I describe a sexual encounter with a mustachioed campus Republican as the upsetting but educational choice of a girl who was new to sex when, in fact, it didn't feel like a choice at all.

She then retells some events from the condom-in-a-tree night in graphic detail.

"Barry leads me to the parking lot," she writes. "I tell him to look away. I pull down my tights to pee, and he jams a few of his fingers inside me, like he’s trying to plug me up. I’m not sure whether I can’t stop it or I don’t want to."

The two then go back to her apartment, and Dunham -- in an attempt to convince herself that she'd given consent -- talks dirty to him as he forces himself on her.

The following day, when Dunham tells her roommate, Audrey, about the encounter, Audrey is horrified by her admission and tells Dunham, "You were raped."

"I burst out laughing," Dunham writes of her initial reaction.

Years later, while sitting in the writer's room of HBO's "Girls," she pitches a "version of the Barry story" to her co-writers. She doesn't call the incident rape, but her co-writers do.

Murray shakes his head. “I just don’t see rape being funny in any situation.”

“Yeah,” Bruce agrees. “It’s a tough one.”

“But that’s the thing,” I say. “No one knows if it’s a rape. It’s, like, a confusing situation that…” I trailed off.

“But I’m sorry that happened to you,” Jenni says. “I hate that.”

Dunham also writes that she struggled with feeling like she was to blame.

I feel like there are fifty ways it's my fault. I fantasized. I took the big pill and the small pill, stuffed myself with substances to make being out in the world with people my own age a little bit easier. I was hungry to be seen. But I also know that at no moment did I consent to being handled that way. I never gave him permission to be rough, to stick himself inside me without a barrier between us. I never gave him permission. In my deepest self I know this, and the knowledge of it has kept me from sinking.

Dunham's memoir, Not That Kind Of Girl: A Young Woman Tells You What She's "Learned," hit book stores Sept. 30.

Need help? In the U.S., visit the National Sexual Assault Online Hotline operated by RAINN. For more resources, visit the National Sexual Violence Resource Center's website.



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Oh brother. Sorry I read that! 3 min of my life I will never get back.

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I don't care what she says, him being a Republican had nothing to do with him raping her. Yes, I believe he was a Republican. Yes, I believe she got raped. What more does she want? She makes it sound like only Republicans are rapists. And you can say that's not true but rape is rape is rape. Has nothing to do with politics. To announce she was raped by a Republican is just trying to make it sound like only Republicans are rapists and we all know that's not true.

If she wanted to draw attention to rape victims she would just say she was raped. Not that she was raped by an "infamous on campus Republican".

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The thing about her sister creeps me out though. Not sure why she is making that public ....

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Cuz she's an Attention Whore that's why. If she has to stomp on her sister's private personal history , why not?

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Sorry I see no "rape" in her idiotic story. You usually don't say to your rapist " oh look u forgot the condom".

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I'll probably offend someone but she irritates me. Her whole attitude irritates me. Everything about her irritates me. She never comes off as genuine. Everything she does or says seems to have an ulterior motive.

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Me too njn. Me too.

Tig I agree. It has a whole huge ick factor. And its worse that she's all surprised and outraged people are grossed out by it.



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She does a disservice to rape victims with her attention seeking bull crap.

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/lena-dunham-responds-to-sex-abuse-claims?bffbnews

Lena Dunham Responds To Accusations That She Sexually Abused Her Sister

Dunham went on a self-described “rage spiral” on Saturday, calling the accusations against her disgusting. UPDATE: Dunham’s sister, Grace, has issued a statement. posted on Nov. 2, 2014, at 6:13 p.m.

Kevin D. Williamson, a columnist for the conservative-leaning magazine National Review, accused Lena Dunham this weekend of admitting to sexual abuse in her new memoir Not That Kind of Girl.

Kevin D. Williamson, a columnist for the conservative-leaning magazine National Review , accused Lena Dunham this weekend of admitting to sexual abuse in her new memoir Not That Kind of Girl .
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Williamson points to a passage in the memoir where Dunham details how she sexually experimented with her little sister, Grace. Williamson also calls Dunham’s parents child abusers.


Dunham writes of casually masturbating while in bed next to her younger sister, of bribing her with “three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds … anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl I was trying.” At one point, when her sister is a toddler, Lena Dunham pries open her vagina — “my curiosity got the best of me,” she offers, as though that were an explanation.

Truth Revolt, a blog run by conservative political commentator Ben Shapiro, published “Lena Dunham Describes Sexually Abusing Her Little Sister,” a follow-up to the National Review’s piece. The author, Bradford Thomas, wrote:


In one particularly unsettling passage, Dunham experimented with her six-year younger sister’s vagina. “This was within the spectrum of things I did,” she writes.

In the collection of nonfiction personal accounts, Dunham describes using her little sister at times essentially as a sexual outlet, bribing her to kiss her for prolonged periods and even masturbating while she is in the bed beside her.

Here’s a photo of the passage in which Dunham refers to herself as a “sexual predator.”

On Saturday, Dunham responded to claims of sexual abuse with a “rage spiral,” calling the accusations disgusting.

 

The right wing news story that I molested my little sister isn't just LOL- it's really ****ing upsetting and disgusting.

 

And by the way, if you were a little kid and never looked at another little kid's vagina, well, congrats to you.

 

Usually this is stuff I can ignore but don't demean sufferers, don't twist my words, back the **** up bros.

 

I told a story about being a weird 7 year old. I bet you have some too, old men, that I'd rather not hear. And yes, this is a rage spiral.

Dunham’s explanation only inspired more debate about whether or not what she describes in her book constitutes molestation.

 

Lena Dunham wrote in a book that she molested her sister, but its okay because she supports abortion.

 

I find it disturbing. I think kids do weird ****. I don't think I should tell Grace how to perceive her life. @PennyDreadful81 @lenadunham

 

Lena Dunham molested her sister. In her book she calls it curiosity. There is no outrage because, white woman.

 

@lenadunham you did it. You wrote it. Seven year olds have molested other children. You brought this upon yourself.

 

how lena dunham literally used the words sexual predator to describe her actions and now she's mad about people twisting her words

 

Lena Dunham literally compared herself to a sexual predator and gets upset when people call her a sexual predator?????? ok

Most recently, Dunham apologized to fans about not being able to attend the Antwerp Book Fair in Belgium on Sunday.

 

To my Belgian readers, so very sorry to miss the Antwerp Book Fair today but I can't wait to come back and eat fries with you. Much love.

update

On Monday, Lena Dunham’s sister, Grace, tweeted a response to the growing controversy. Nov. 3, 2014, at 10:43 a.m.

 

heteronormativity deems certain behaviours harmful, and others "normal"; the state and media are always invested in maintaining that

 

As a queer person: i'm committed to people narrating their own experiences, determining for themselves what has and has not been harmful



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So. Weird.

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The sister's tweets make no sense ...



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I think she's trying to be neutral. What I got was she is saying she is gay and that abuse is subjective? Although I don't know what one has to do with the other. I think she's trying to say what's normal to one is not to others. Like this might not be what mainstream society says is normal but maybe she has not been hurt by it? I dunno. Just my guess. They all sound really weird to me. I don't even really know what heteronormativity is.

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And yeah, she admits in her book she did some pretty weird things to her sister. I wouldn't say that those things were "normal". None of my girlfriends ever did that stuff to my knowledge. That's some weird stuff.

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Let's not forget that she wore the ugliest dress ever to the Oscars.

I've never watched her show. I'm fairly sure she's not that talented.

I was reading the second article yesterday (and comments on another board). Seriously, that is one of the most disturbed things I have ever read. At seven, I was playing with Barbies, NOT looking at my friend's vagina!

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She is scum. She admits to molesting her sister and talks about it without remorse. She is the scum that scum scrapes off its shoe.

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She wasn't just being a precocious little tyke. She was a predator.

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Yuck. This wasn't a one time incident. Sounds like she preyed on her sister as any sexual predator would do. Candy bribes, taking in pleasure in hurting her with bad news, grooming her in other ways.

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Yuck. This wasn't a one time incident. Sounds like she preyed on her sister as any sexual predator would do. Candy bribes, taking in pleasure in hurting her with bad news, grooming her in other ways.


 And WHY would you admit doing those things? She sure sounds proud...no

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Well, and if her sister just excuses it or fluffs it off, that sends a terrible message. Like if it is OK by the victim, then therefore it is OK.

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I remember this. She didn't think it was rape until someone told her. Morning after regret does not equal rape. Stupid drunken college sex does not equal rape.

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Maybe she raped him? Why does she presume that she is the victim?

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She has all this supposed angst and shame over her supposed rape, but not a whit of feeling about molesting her sister. Uh huh.

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I remember this. She didn't think it was rape until someone told her. Morning after regret does not equal rape. Stupid drunken college sex does not equal rape.


 And frankly, it's a slap in the face to every woman who HAS been raped.

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I guess we aren't that fascinated with her. I have no idea who she is or what she has done.

She didn't even exist in my world until this thread.

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I remember this. She didn't think it was rape until someone told her. Morning after regret does not equal rape. Stupid drunken college sex does not equal rape.


 And frankly, it's a slap in the face to every woman who HAS been raped.

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She should be thrown in jail. What a poor excuse for a human being...

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I remember this. She didn't think it was rape until someone told her. Morning after regret does not equal rape. Stupid drunken college sex does not equal rape.


 And frankly, it's a slap in the face to every woman who HAS been raped.

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She is revolting. Why are people paying attention to her neurosis? Everyone needs to just ignore her & maybe she'll go away. I hate that people can get famous for just about anything.

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The things is, what that guy did to her- what she is saying is rape- is very similar to what she did to her sister, but that was just 'curiosity'. Okay...

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The things is, what that guy did to her- what she is saying is rape- is very similar to what she did to her sister, but that was just 'curiosity'. Okay...


That is a well stated point.  Somebody needs to ask her exactly that!  She claims her situation was rape.  So, did she indeed rape her sister?  Well stated point. 



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What the guy did was get laid. She took him back to her apartment and she admits she talked dirty to him. No where in her story does she say she said no.



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What the guy did was get laid. She took him back to her apartment and she admits she talked dirty to him. No where in her story does she say she said no.


Exactly.  It was HER apartment.  He didn't break in, she invited him.  She talked dirty to him.  They had sex.  She's just whining for attention.  Any kind of attention is good enough for her.  She wants her spotlight. 



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I guess ya'll don't get it. It was rape because he was a Republican.

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I guess ya'll don't get it. It was rape because he was a Republican.


If that is the only criteria I have been raped countless times. 



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I guess ya'll don't get it. It was rape because he was a Republican.


If that is the only criteria I have been raped countless times. 


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I just remember it pretty clearly because, as a rape survivor myself, she didn't seem genuine. Not that it didn't happen... Just that the focus was all on him being a Republican and hardly anything about the actual rape itself. She went on and on and on about how he was the President of Student Republican Party. She is staunchly Democrat. I guess I just never understood THIS aspect of her story. Rape is rape is rape. If you've been raped you don't talk about their political party. You talk about being violated and shame and all kinds of other things. But you don't try to turn your rape into a political campaign.

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My biggest problem with her is not that she was a deranged and nasty little girl, it's that as an adult, she finds all of this funny.

I'm glad there is such backlash at her behavior. There should be no such thing as comedy hour when it comes to molestation or rape.

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I guess ya'll don't get it. It was rape because he was a Republican.


EXACTLY!!!!! 



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This story makes me physically sick. She molested her sister and brags about it. Even defends her actions. I hope to God she never gets an acting job again, but I don't have the confidence in liberal Hollywood. They eat this stuff up. Laughing all the way to the bank...

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This story makes me physically sick. She molested her sister and brags about it. Even defends her actions. I hope to God she never gets an acting job again, but I don't have the confidence in liberal Hollywood. They eat this stuff up. Laughing all the way to the bank...


 This liberal thinks she's disgusting.

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This story makes me physically sick. She molested her sister and brags about it. Even defends her actions. I hope to God she never gets an acting job again, but I don't have the confidence in liberal Hollywood. They eat this stuff up. Laughing all the way to the bank...


 This liberal thinks she's disgusting.

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 Thank you.  But she's the poster girl for liberals.  I would like to see someone come out against her, but I've seen nothing except bashing of the conservative site that brought this to light...



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