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Why My Husband And I Would Never Choose To Live Together

Posted: 11/13/2014 6:58 am EST Updated: 11/13/2014 12:59 pm EST

 

 

 

Would your marriage be stronger if you and your partner lived apart? When David proposed to Claire after 12 years together, Claire had one question. Would he want to move in? Luckily the answer was no and the now-married couple continue to live happily, apart. Here's Claire's story as told to Kim Willis from High50.

Christmas Day 2012 will go down in history in our family. For it was not only the day David asked me to be his wife, but it was also the day that our extended family saw firsthand just how our relationship works.

David handed me a small gift and asked me to open it in front of our son, Jay, now six, as well as my other sons, Lee, now 20, Billy, now 18, and Max, now 15, and various aunts, uncles, grandparents, cousins, nieces and nephews. A full house, all witness to the proposal.

I unwrapped the paper and saw a blue Tiffany velvet purse. Then David knelt before me and presented me with a sparkling diamond ring as he asked if I would marry him.

But my first words after his proposal were not yes, as you might expect.

My first words were: 'I don't have to live with you, do I?'

That was the moment that our family still laugh about -- the moment they understood what David and I are all about.

But the best part of the story was the look on David's face. The thought of us moving in together just because he was proposing hadn't even crossed his mind.

'God no!' he said. And with that, I accepted his proposal and wrapped my arms around him. I couldn't wait to be his wife, but living together was absolutely out of the question.

Unconventional Marriage, But It Works For Us

David and I might not have followed the normal route into marriage, but who wants to be normal? This set up works for us and had worked for us for 11 years before we married, so changing anything seemed absurd to us.

We spent the rest of Christmas Day chatting about wedding plans. Come the evening, David went home, just as he always did.

David's flat is seven miles from the house where I live with my three older sons from a previous relationship and Jay, my son with David.

What makes our relationship work is trust. I know couples who have lived together for years but they don't trust each other like we do. We don't live separately because David wants to be free to have affairs or anything silly like that. People think he has his own place just so he can cheat on me. I trust him and I don't need him under my roof to know he's not a cheater.

We live separately because if we lived together, it would ruin our relationship.

Society, and many of our friends and family, might have expected me to give up my independence and my routine but what society doesn't realize is that we'd ultimately give up our relationship if we lived together.

David will admit it himself -- he's complex. It's his way or no way. I can cope with that trait if I don't have to live with it -- and I'm sure I have traits he'd rather not live with too.

I wouldn't want to change David and I love everything about him, but if we lived together we'd quarrel and then we would either have to change or we'd have to break up. And I just married him -- breaking up is the last thing I'd ever want to do.

But as we announced our engagement, friends seemed desperate for us to finally conform and move under one roof.

Just because we'd got engaged, it didn't mean we wanted anything to change. Just as it hadn't after we had Jay.

Marriage Problems After Child Birth

Admittedly, when Jay was born, we did talk about it. Jay was diagnosed with Down's Syndrome and we thought it would be best for him if we lived together. David stayed over a lot in those early days.

But at five weeks old, Jay started sleeping through the night and David started going back to his own place. It was all very well David returning to his house, but I was being left with full responsibility for our baby.

That's not what I signed up for -- if we were going to live apart, David wasn't going to act like a bachelor while I dealt with every night shift.

So I bought him a cot to take home and told him that although I didn't want to live with him, he was going to have to do his share of the nights.

And we were soon arguing over who would get to have Jay for the night.

Now Jay goes to David's a few times a week, which is perfect as I get respite and Jay gets quality time with his dad.

He runs around packing his bag and telling his half-brothers he's off to his Daddy's house. David's just bought him some fish and Jay loves watching them swim around.

On the nights they are at David's, I pour myself a glass of wine and watch my favorite TV shows. David's a National Geographic kind of guy, I like soap operas. Our differences don't rub each other up the wrong way because we don't put ourselves in situations where they matter.

The Financial Implications Of Living Apart

Financially, we'd be so much better off if David moved in here. He wouldn't have to pay off a separate mortgage and pay separate bills. We'd be able to get by running just one car.

We'd be able to afford a foreign vacation every year. But we would lose who we are and what makes us work.

Whenever David comes over, there is such laughter in our house. But like me, the boys never assumed that just because David and I were getting married, he'd move in.

I've been married twice before, David has been married once. We both know what it's like to put your finances in one pot and we don't like it, even if it does cost us more this way.

Nearly every day from the proposal to the wedding 18 months later, someone asked if getting married meant we'd move in together.

But our answer was always a categorical no -- we passed the stage of feeling we need to explain ourselves but people still found us fascinating, asking how we make it work.

By the time I've given them my reasons, I usually got told that our decision sounded like a very good idea. Some people even tell me they wish they could do it themselves.

We married on the July 19, 2013. Our day had a blue and yellow theme, the colors of the Down Syndrome Awareness campaign.

We spent our first night as man and wife in the honeymoon suite of a hotel and had to share a bed. As usual, it was a disaster. It's impossible to sleep next to David, he's so spread-eagled. And he snores.

I've never stayed over at his place but David occasionally stays at mine. I've taken to putting him in the spare room when he does. We make love -- of course we do. We're just creative.

David is a fireman and works odd shifts and I'm a full time mum so sometimes he'll pop over during the day... After 13 years together I still feel excited when I see him.

David can be who he is and I can be who I am and we can do what we do best -- laugh, have fun, enjoy each other. We're not dragged down by the day to day problems of life.

We are always delighted to see each other and don't get annoyed by the little things that can weigh a relationship down, like teabags in the sink or an overflowing trashcan.

We don't fall out over anything -- I can't remember the last time we squabbled.

We're not holding on to our independence, we are holding on to our relationship. Our marriage works just perfectly living apart, together.

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It works for them. But, personally, I don't get the point.

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It works for them. But, personally, I don't get the point.


 I agree.  The point of marriage is, well living together all of the time.  Now, I can understand sleeping in separate rooms because someone may snore at an ungodly decibel...



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I think it is unfair to their kid. I mean, that's nice that she has all the fluffy ideas about it. But, is it really that HARD to live with another person you love? Wow. I think that is called compromise, being selfless, learning to adapt, etc.

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I am not so sure why they would "kill" each other? I mean really? Because he watches CSI and she watches the cooking channel? Um, many homes actually have 2 TVs. We have 3. We haven't yet "killed" each other over which TV show to watch. He sleeps "spread eagle and snores"? Um, there are King sized beds. And, after awhile you ADAPT. Or, he could sleep in a different bedroom in the same home.

As for "loving everything about him". Well obviously she doesn't if his way is so egregious to her that she would "kill" him if they lived under the same roof.

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I can't even wrap my mind around this

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Apparently she can live with her sons, but he's so damned annoying, she can't stand him! LOL!

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Well, I don't get a lot of things about modern marriage. I don't get the "your bills, my bills" kind of approach at all. I don't get the "my money, your money" different bank accounts thing and these are "your" bills. I mean, yes, some people are not good with money and I get that it might make the banking easier. But, marriage is for the long haul. What happens when one loses a job or gets downsized or whatever? Do they not get to eat? I feel like that everything I have needs to be His and everything he has needs to be Mine. I don't comprehend how that works.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Apparently she can live with her sons, but he's so damned annoying, she can't stand him! LOL!


 So the sex is good, but nothing else?

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Sorry, no. Not buying it. It may work for them, but that is not a marriage. They don't share a house, bank account, or a bed. How are they married exactly?

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I know a couple that lived in separate houses. They had originally lived together but fought all the time so he moved out & he swore it was the best thing for their marriage. They socialized together & seemed happy. IDK, maybe it does work for some people.

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I know a couple that lived in separate houses. They had originally lived together but fought all the time so he moved out & he swore it was the best thing for their marriage. They socialized together & seemed happy. IDK, maybe it does work for some people.


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I know a couple that lived in separate houses. They had originally lived together but fought all the time so he moved out & he swore it was the best thing for their marriage. They socialized together & seemed happy. IDK, maybe it does work for some people.


 Really? That is interesting. 


 I think part of why it worked for them is they were both very career oriented & had no kids. 



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Yeah, but once you bring kids in the picture, I think you have to think of them too. And, maintaining 2 houses, how much time can they spend together? Two lawns to mow, 2 sets of chores and 2 sets of household bills? Why? And, either if they are both really that difficult to live with, I feel sorry for their kids.

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Technically I don't live with DH half the year. Although this year it was more like three quarters. I like our arrangement. I like having a month to myself and then having him home a month. It's the best of both worlds to me. I feel like her in the sense that when he's gone I don't have to worry about cooking what he likes (he's picky). I don't have to shave my legs. I can watch what I want on the tv. He hogs the tv when he's home. The kids even hate it. But, when he's back, he's here. He doesn't go to work so we can do things together and enjoy each others company. I mean there are plus sides to both. I will say you have to be really independent and committed to pull this off. Cheating is a big thing. Many of his coworkers have come home to find other people in their houses. Even SS's mom cheated on him. So the cheating thing is a big deal. But I guess if these two can pull it off then more power to them. It's not traditional and definitely not what most want.

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Stupid.

I'm living apart from my wife right now--and it sucks.

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I mean Never? She would NEVER want to live with him?

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I wouldn't want a marriage like that, but if it works for them I guess they are making the right decision.

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I wish we would turn our barn into a guest house. I would totally live apart from my husband! He is sooo messy and it drives me nuts!

I would come visit him and the kids and then go back home to my perfectly clean, quiet little house.

Sounds like a dream... :)

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I wish we would turn our barn into a guest house. I would totally live apart from my husband! He is sooo messy and it drives me nuts!

I would come visit him and the kids and then go back home to my perfectly clean, quiet little house.

Sounds like a dream... :)


 You have a barn?



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I don't want to live in separate houses, but separate bedrooms with a connecting door would be nice. His snoring makes it very difficult to sleep in the same room. PLUS, I would not have to share the closet.  biggrin



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Well, I don't get a lot of things about modern marriage. I don't get the "your bills, my bills" kind of approach at all. I don't get the "my money, your money" different bank accounts thing and these are "your" bills. I mean, yes, some people are not good with money and I get that it might make the banking easier. But, marriage is for the long haul. What happens when one loses a job or gets downsized or whatever? Do they not get to eat? I feel like that everything I have needs to be His and everything he has needs to be Mine. I don't comprehend how that works.


 I don't get it either, LGS.



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Well, I don't get a lot of things about modern marriage. I don't get the "your bills, my bills" kind of approach at all. I don't get the "my money, your money" different bank accounts thing and these are "your" bills. I mean, yes, some people are not good with money and I get that it might make the banking easier. But, marriage is for the long haul. What happens when one loses a job or gets downsized or whatever? Do they not get to eat? I feel like that everything I have needs to be His and everything he has needs to be Mine. I don't comprehend how that works.


 I don't get it either, LGS.


It might make more sense to you if you've ever been divorced.  I won't share my bank accounts with anyone even if I were to marry again.  Doesn't mean I won't be there financially if my fiance suffered a job loss.  It doesn't mean I wouldn't feed him. 



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I wish we would turn our barn into a guest house. I would totally live apart from my husband! He is sooo messy and it drives me nuts!

I would come visit him and the kids and then go back home to my perfectly clean, quiet little house.

Sounds like a dream... :)


 You have a barn?


 Yeah, the people who built this house had horses.  We use it for storing a bunch of crap.  I wanted a horse but my husband said no.  

I also want an alpaca and a donkey, but he thinks I'm being ridiculous hmm



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Empyreal wrote:

I wish we would turn our barn into a guest house. I would totally live apart from my husband! He is sooo messy and it drives me nuts!

I would come visit him and the kids and then go back home to my perfectly clean, quiet little house.

Sounds like a dream... :)


 You have a barn?


 Yeah, the people who built this house had horses.  We use it for storing a bunch of crap.  I wanted a horse but my husband said no.  

I also want an alpaca and a donkey, but he thinks I'm being ridiculous hmm


 I'd go for mini goats!  Or fainting goats.  They are hilarious.



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Lexxy wrote:
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Empyreal wrote:

I wish we would turn our barn into a guest house. I would totally live apart from my husband! He is sooo messy and it drives me nuts!

I would come visit him and the kids and then go back home to my perfectly clean, quiet little house.

Sounds like a dream... :)


 You have a barn?


 Yeah, the people who built this house had horses.  We use it for storing a bunch of crap.  I wanted a horse but my husband said no.  

I also want an alpaca and a donkey, but he thinks I'm being ridiculous hmm


 I'd go for mini goats!  Or fainting goats.  They are hilarious.


 I did have a pygmy goat for many years.  She was a trouble maker!   



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Empyreal wrote:
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Empyreal wrote:

I wish we would turn our barn into a guest house. I would totally live apart from my husband! He is sooo messy and it drives me nuts!

I would come visit him and the kids and then go back home to my perfectly clean, quiet little house.

Sounds like a dream... :)


 You have a barn?


 Yeah, the people who built this house had horses.  We use it for storing a bunch of crap.  I wanted a horse but my husband said no.  

I also want an alpaca and a donkey, but he thinks I'm being ridiculous hmm


 I'd go for mini goats!  Or fainting goats.  They are hilarious.


 I did have a pygmy goat for many years.  She was a trouble maker!   


 Too cool!  I'd love to have one but I don't think my HOA would approve.



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There she is.  Gracie the goat!  

We used to stick tennis balls on her crazy horns to keep her from jacking us up.  She would get mad when I would hug my husband and come after me!  

Guess who's still here Gracie?!?  Yeah.. that's right.  My husband thinks I'm prettier than you and we had another baby after you left.  Take that you jealous bitch!  



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LOL, Empy! Gracie was cute!

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Haha, she was cute. She was actually my engagement present.

Me and hubby were sinners who lived together before getting married. One day I got home from work and heard this crazy noise in the house "Maaaaa!" "Maaahaaaaa" So I went into the living room to see what was going on.

My husband was sitting there with a baby goat with a collar stuffed with flowers with a little tiny purse planner dangling from her collar. On the front of the planner he wrote "Pick a date" We had been engaged before moving in and he was ready to get married.

We kept her until we had our first baby and then we gave her to a family one street down for their boy's 4h project.

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Sorry for the hi-jack! I've turned a thread about husbands into a thread about goats. A huge stretch, I know.

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Sorry for the hi-jack! I've turned a thread about husbands into a thread about goats. A huge stretch, I know.


 What hi-jack?



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LOL, we sorta did hijack but oh well.

What a sweet story Empy! As always your husband rocks!

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That is a really sweet story Empy!

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Well, I don't get a lot of things about modern marriage. I don't get the "your bills, my bills" kind of approach at all. I don't get the "my money, your money" different bank accounts thing and these are "your" bills. I mean, yes, some people are not good with money and I get that it might make the banking easier. But, marriage is for the long haul. What happens when one loses a job or gets downsized or whatever? Do they not get to eat? I feel like that everything I have needs to be His and everything he has needs to be Mine. I don't comprehend how that works.


 I don't get it either, LGS.


It might make more sense to you if you've ever been divorced.  I won't share my bank accounts with anyone even if I were to marry again.  Doesn't mean I won't be there financially if my fiance suffered a job loss.  It doesn't mean I wouldn't feed him. 


 I have been married and divorced, and in those marriages I kept my finances separate.   After years of self analysis, I realized that my failure to comingle finances was due to the fact that I didn't trust them.    I kicked myself for years for marrying someone I did not trust.



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Well, I don't get a lot of things about modern marriage. I don't get the "your bills, my bills" kind of approach at all. I don't get the "my money, your money" different bank accounts thing and these are "your" bills. I mean, yes, some people are not good with money and I get that it might make the banking easier. But, marriage is for the long haul. What happens when one loses a job or gets downsized or whatever? Do they not get to eat? I feel like that everything I have needs to be His and everything he has needs to be Mine. I don't comprehend how that works.


Me, either.

 

My best friend and his wife kind of keep things separate.  Not sure their marriage (his second) isn't in a little trouble, either, although he hasn't said that in so many words.   



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