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84% of Vegetarians and Vegans Return to Meat. Why?

 

One of my daughters recently asked me for suggestions on types of meat she might enjoy. I was shocked. A vegetarian for nearly 18 years, she has always found meat, well, icky. In retrospect, I should not have been surprised about her new interest in carnivory. After all, as a researcher, I have studied vegetarians who return to meat. But I never figured she would join the ranks of ex-vegetarians, so I asked her to jot down a few words about why she originally gave up the consumption of flesh and why she now feels compelled to change her veggie ways. Here’s what she wrote….

I stopped eating meat when I was 13. I told my mom and dad that my decision was based on animal welfare and the high carbon footprint of meat. But the truth is that while I theoretically cared about animals and the planet, mostly I just wanted to be different. I lived in a small Southern town where it was more common to see the image of Jesus in a piece of toast than encounter a real live vegetarian. So while my motives weren’t entirely pure, giving up meat certainly made me different: Population of Cullowhee, NC: 9,427 meat eaters and 1 vegetarian.

For the next 17 years, I ate grains, produce, legumes, and fake meat products like those Morningstar bacon strips that have a lower nutritional value than cat food. And for the next 17 years, it seemed like I was always hungry no matter how large my bowl of beans and rice. Even worse than constant hunger, I didn't seem to enjoy food the way other people did. Eating was a chore, like folding laundry or paying bills, but even more annoying because if I didn't do it I would die. I was sick of being hungry, I was sick of beans and rice, and so at the age of 31, I have made a decision: I will try and become a meat-eater.

Thanks to a new study by the Humane Research Council, we now know a lot more about the psychology of why so many vegetarians and vegans, like my daughter, give up their all-veggie ways.

 The Methods

The Humane Research Council is a non-profit that uses market research techniques to assess public opinions related to animal issues. Their mission is to provide information animal protection organizations can use to more effectively spread their messages. And for this study, they recruited a group of top flight social scientists to design a survey to examine differences between current and ex-vegetarians and vegans.

The study sample was unique for a couple of reasons. First it was huge – 11,399 adults of all dietary stripes which were recruited from a representative group of Americans maintained by Harris Interactive (part of the company that conducts the highly respected Harris Poll). Second, while not perfectly representative of the American public, it is a much closer representation of the population of the United States than other studies of our collective dietary choices. (While the sample was a bit older, wealthier, more educated, whiter, and more female that the general public, I was more impressed by how diverse it was.)

The Findings:

For anyone interested in the psychology of meat-eating and meat avoidance, the data is a gold mine. Here is a quick overview of some of the more interesting findings

How Many? - The proportion of true vegetarians and vegans in the United State is surprisingly small. Only about 2% of respondents did not consume any meat – 1.5% were vegetarians and 0.5% were vegans. These finding are generally consistent with other studies.

Going Back - Five out of six people who give up meat eventually abandon their vegetarian ways.

Vegans Vs. Vegetarians - Vegans are less like to backslide than vegetarians. While 86% of vegetarians returned to meat, only 70% of vegans did.

Political views - More than twice as many vegetarians and vegans indicated they were politically liberal rather than said they were conservative.

Demographics - Compared to current vegetarian/vegans, ex-vegetarians tended to be older, more conservative, and more likely to be traditional Christians. There were no differences in the gender ratios, education, or race/ethnicity of former and current vegetarian/vegans.

Gender differences - As expected, there were higher proportions of women than men among both present and former meat avoiders. (Nearly every study has found that women are more concerned about animal issues. For a review, see here.)

Reasons for going veg - Current vegetarians/vegans were considerably more likely than former meat avoiders to say they originally gave up eating meat for reasons of taste, concern for animals, feelings of disgust, social justice, and religious beliefs.

Health problems - Only 29% of ex-vegetarians/vegans indicated that they experienced specific health-related symptoms while on a no-meat diet.

Back to veggies? - 37% of ex-vegetarian/vegans indicated that they would be interested in going back to a no-meat diet at some point in the future.

The purity problem - 43% of ex-vegetarians/vegans said they found it too difficult to be “pure” with their diet.

The Implications: Meat Reduction Is More Effective Than Meat Elimination

The implications of this study are important. Only 2% of Americans do not eat any animal products. (This number has not changed appreciably for 20 years). Further, the fact that five out of six vegetarians go back to eating meat suggests that an all-veggie diet is very hard for most people to maintain over the long haul. Hence, the authors of the report argue that animal protectionists would be better off concentrating their efforts to persuade “the many” to reduce their consumption of flesh than trying to convince “the few” to take the absolutist route and give up meat completely. Sounds right to me.

Post script: In reality, my daughter was not the only vegetarian in her home town when she was a kid. And today she is still a reluctant omnivore. The truth is that she does not like meat very much -- but we did eat a sausage and mushroom pizza for dinner last night.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why

 



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husker will love this thread!

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Why do they return to meat? Cause it tastes good!



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IMHO, the body of a long term vegetarian triggers a need for meat due to nutrient needs. Humans ARE carnivores as well as herbivore's. I think their body's are telling them something when the foods they normally eat become tasteless to them and they are always hungry.
I have only ever known one true vegan and she always looked like a walking ghost, her skin was so shallow looking. She always looked unhealthy.
One person is not much to base an opinion on, I know. But, gosh, she did look awful.
And, she was always sick.

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I too know vegans and vegetarians, and without exception, they are nearly always fighting colds and other ailments. And yes, they were pale. I also worked with a guy who ate NOTHING but meat and cheese...he also looked awful and had chronic constipation.

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Because our bodies are meant to thrive on a balanced diet.

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Humans are omnivores, which means we need both vegetables and meat to provide the nutrients our bodies need. Eventually your body will tell you it needs meat. Constant hunger and tiredness are the signs you need something more than you are getting. We were hunter (meat) gatherers (veggies) for a reason.

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I didn't even know this.

However, when people suggest that a way to "save" the environment is to go vegan, I just laugh. The FACT is that there is NO long term trend towards vegetarianism. In fact, meat consumption is EXPANDING on a worldwide basis as developing economies (chiefly in Southeast Asia) add more and more animal protein to their diets.

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The "Why?" is a very simple question to answer. Because meat is awesome!

Just kidding. I'm not kidding about it being awesome, just about it being the answer.

We are Omnivores, and while Omnivores CAN survive on vegetation alone, it's not a good, healthy diet that helps their body thrive. Omnivores need both types of food, animal protein and vegetation, to thrive.

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I have to agree with husker on this one. The suggestion that vegetarianism, or even worse - veganism, is the answer, to anything, is absolutely ludicrous.

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What was she eating that she was hungry all the time?

I'm not veggie, but I usually only have meat at dinner. I certainly don't spend the other 8 hours of the day starving. There are a lot of filling, non meat protein sources.

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Our bodies crave nutritional substances it is low on. If my body needs salt, I will get a craving for something salty, if my blood is low on iron, I will crave something like steak. So this article is no surprise to me, especially the liberal part.

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I've had friends that were vegetarian. They all eat meat now. One was ordered by her doctor to eat red meat at least once a week - that's quite an adjustment.

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She needed a doctor to TELL her to eat red meat? How did we run our lives before medicalizing every aspect of it?

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She needed a doctor to TELL her to eat red meat? How did we run our lives before medicalizing every aspect of it?


 Well, she went to the doctor because she was feeling really run down.  Her iron was extremely low.  They tried iron supplements and extra spinach first.  When that didn't work, he told her she HAD to eat red meat.



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I know. But, I think you should be able to figure that one out on your own.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I know. But, I think you should be able to figure that one out on your own.


 Not necessarily.  She has been a vegetarian as long as I've know her - almost 20 years.  It's not necessarily going to click that lack of red meat is the problem when it never was before.



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Ok, good point. Some vegans are very meticulous in making sure they get enough protein, etc.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

She needed a doctor to TELL her to eat red meat? How did we run our lives before medicalizing every aspect of it?


 Well, she went to the doctor because she was feeling really run down.  Her iron was extremely low.  They tried iron supplements and extra spinach first.  When that didn't work, he told her she HAD to eat red meat.


 Non heme iron...like in vegetable sources, needs B12 to be made available to the body. That only comes from meat sources (unless you take injections)  Most oral iron supplements that you get over the counter don't deliver as much iron as consuming meat.



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