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Couple Fights for Custody of Children Following Unassisted Home Birth

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Couple Fights for Custody of Children Following Unassisted Home Birth

Cleave Rengo, Erica May Carey and their children. Photo by Facebook.

Erica May Carey gave birth to her twins, a son and a daughter, just two months ago, but she and her husband Cleave Rengo say they have barely seen them since. That’s because Child Protective Services removed the babies, along with her 1-year-old son, from the family’s home in Bellingham, Wash., just a few days after they were born, reports King 5 News.

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The parents believe it was because Carey, 29, gave birth to the babies at home, without the assistance of a midwife, and because she refused to take them to the hospital for an exam when paramedics, presumably summoned by a neighbor, showed up at her door. (The mom and dad, incidentally, did not know they were having twins until after the first baby was born, as Carey says she never had an ultrasound during her pregnancy.) Also reportedly at issue is the older child’s case of eczema, and the parents’ decision to treat it with natural rather than steroid-based remedies. The parents say they made their decisions based on their Christian beliefs. And on Tuesday, according to King 5 News, they petitioned the Superior Court of Washington for custody of their children.

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The case has been drawing massive attention from civil-rights supporters — with a Facebook support page set up to help raise legal funds — as well as from state politicians. “Over the past several days, hundreds of you have made your voices heard about a current case with our Child Protective Services in Washington regarding the Rengo family,” Gov. Jay Inslee noted on his official Facebook page on Thursday. “I want to thank you for your concern and willingness to be vocal.”

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Rengo with his older son in 2013. Photo by Facebook.

He continued, “I’d like to be clear: every child’s safety is our top priority in situations like these. Rumors have circulated that the removal of the Rengo children was due to breastfeeding or their home births. Those rumors are false. Breastfeeding and home birthing are not factors that would cause CPS to take children from a home. Their removal from the home was based on factors unrelated to a home birth or breastfeeding.” For now, he explained, the court has determined the “Rengo children’s safety is at risk,” but that a hearing is ongoing to decide where the three babies should be.

During the hearing this week, the state “attempted to show an unstable household marked by numerous contacts with law enforcement … within the past two years and refusal to provide medical treatment to the children,” according to the Bellingham Herald.

Yahoo Parenting could not reach Children’s Protective Services on Friday. But the office did provide the following statement to King 5 News earlier in the week: “Due to confidentiality, we cannot discuss details, except to say that a court determined a child’s safety required removal from the home. No policy of Children’s Administration would allow a child to be taken due to a home birth. A home birth is not in any way a child safety risk factor in the view of Children’s Administration.”

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The story has been closely followed by Medical Kidnap, a part of Health Impact News that was started, according to its website, because of the growing number of stories like that of the Rengo family. “Due to the increasing frequency of stories being exposed regarding children taken away from their families for simply disagreeing with their doctors,” it notes, “we felt it was time to put up a completely separate website to document these tragic stories.”

Recent tales with a similar theme include that of Florida mom Sarah Markham, whose baby was briefly made a ward of the state following a disagreement she had with her pediatrician about vegan formula. Previously, there was “baby Sammy,” the Sacramento, Calif., 5-month-old who was put into protective custody after parents Anna and Alex Nikolayev left a hospital to seek a second opinion after being told their son needed open-heart surgery. Police showed up at their home a day later and, in an incident caught on home video, seized the baby. He was returned home after a week.

The most well-known of this cases is that of Justina Pelletier, in which Boston Children’s Hospital fought for and won temporary state custody of her over a disagreement with parents about a controversial medical diagnosis.

The Rengo case, the site reports, “is another medical kidnapping, according to the parents. The Rengos have chosen a wholesome, holistic lifestyle, based in their Christian faith. But CPS has stepped in to override the parents’ decisions. Now Erica and Cleave are living what they call a nightmare, separated from their children for reasons that don’t make any sense at all to them.”

After the paramedics came and suggested the twins be taken to the hospital, which the parents refused because of their fragile immune systems, the site adds, CPS social workers appeared, and were concerned about eczema on their older boy’s skin. The couple says they agreed to a trip to the pediatrician, “who said the babies were doing fine. The only concern was that the twins were slow to gain weight. At the time, Erica was trying to maintain a supply for three breastfeeding babies. She says she followed the pediatrician’s advice to supplement with formula, and the babies promptly got back on track with weight gain.”

The family’s lawyer, Stephen Pidgeon, could not be reached for comment on Friday. But according to the Bellingham Herald, the couple says that since being taken from their home, their older son has developed pneumonia and ear infections and that one of the twins now has reflux.

“There was no abuse, no neglect,” Rengo, 23, told the newspaper. “This is a misunderstanding. We just miss them dearly and want them back.”

 



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Now, I think they were STUPID for having the kids at home, unassisted--and had one of them died, I would have been very much in favor of manslaughter chargers.

However, that didn't happen. The kids are fine and seem to be healthy. The government needs to butt out unless and until they can prove the children are in imminent danger.

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Babies were born at home for centuries.

Yes. The government needs to butt out.

And the eczema thing is another thing that cant be predicted. C has it and the steroid creams didn't always work and sometimes made it worse.



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Get ready for it:

I agree 100% with husker.

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I read this the other day and cried. Those poor parents. I don't want to even imagine what it would be like to have your newborn taken from you.. And for no reason.



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I met a woman who birthed her twins at home. She said the third day of labor was the worst part.
Definitely not the choice I would have made, but her family seemed happy and healthy.


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flan327 wrote:

Get ready for it:

I agree 100% with husker.

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Yeah, butt out GOVT.

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Have to wonder what they're not saying.

Multiple interactions with law enforcement?

Environment not safe for children?

leaves a lot to the imagination.



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According to other news stories they were living in a one bedroom apt with the grandfather who is mentally ill and there is a history of domestic violence.

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They want community sympathy so they are covering the real reason the children were removed.

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Leaves nothing to my imagination.

I wonder how the neighbor knew they were delivering?

Those babies haven't had the chance to bond with their parents.

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I agree with what husker said (home birth should not be a reason to take the kids). However, upon reading the article that's not why the babies were taken by CPS.

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According to other news stories they were living in a one bedroom apt with the grandfather who is mentally ill and there is a history of domestic violence.


This makes a lot more sense. 

 

 

How did the neighbors know? They have ears.



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According to other news stories they were living in a one bedroom apt with the grandfather who is mentally ill and there is a history of domestic violence.


But that doesn't mean the kids were abused--and they certainly weren't on the "radar" before this neighbor called whoever they called.   



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Truth-or-Consequences wrote:

I agree with what husker said (home birth should not be a reason to take the kids). However, upon reading the article that's not why the babies were taken by CPS.


 I stand corrected.

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flan327 wrote:

Get ready for it:

I agree 100% with husker.

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 Me, too!



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Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:

Get ready for it:

I agree 100% with husker.

flan


 Me, too!


 Even with the additional info? Just curious.

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I'm sure there is way more to this story than what can be reported.

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flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:

Get ready for it:

I agree 100% with husker.

flan


 Me, too!


 Even with the additional info? Just curious.

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 I haven't read the other articles, but nothing posted here says the CHILDREN were in imminent danger.



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Look, I think they are a couple of fruits and nuts--but the question is whether or not the kids were in immediate danger, and nothing indicates they were.

Sure, if one of the children had a life-threatening illness and they refused to get medical treatment for them, I'd be all over this, and not on their side.

But again, that does not seem to be the case here.

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