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Facebook is ruining my social life. I have always been gregarious, and I have always been politically minded. This would seem like a contradiction, except I’m pretty good at having conversations other people want to have, which means a lot of my friendships over the years have never involved political discussion.
Until Facebook. All my friends and family see everything I post, political or not, so friends who have previously been ignorant of my views have been inundated with this “new” side of me. So I have had some attrition of acquaintances as a result over the years, but I wasn’t particularly worried.
But now, my closest friends seem to be retreating. I saw a post this morning by a friend thanking our mutual friends for a great night on the town for her birthday. Nobody invited me. I have tried to dial down my political posts on Facebook, but I cannot stop talking about things I care about. I don’t want to live in an echo chamber of people who agree with me, which is what seems to be happening. I would quit Facebook altogether, but as a stay-at-home mom in a neighborhood of parents who work out of the home, I need adult interaction! Ack!
Facebooker
“I cannot stop talking about things I care about”? Yes, you can.
It’s a choice, so you can make a different one.
Should you, or do you want to? That’s up to you, but it seems to me you have all the pieces in front of you, and now you just need to decide how to arrange them: Keep posting political things and lose friends for it, or keep the friends and lose the political posts. It’s all about which one you value more.
As you weigh the two possibilities, I suggest you assess honestly what you accomplish with each choice. What does time with these friends add to your life? Are you having fun, forging alliances, helping the community and being helped by it, teaching your kids by example? Likewise, what does posting things accomplish — are you advancing your causes, changing minds, drawing out informed disagreement from people you respect on the other side of an issue? One thing you aren’t doing is “talking.” That implies exchange, which allows for nuance. Posting is a much blunter instrument.
This Facebook-or-friends? decision is just like anything else, requiring honesty with oneself and a cost-benefit analysis.
There is, by the way, a middle avenue, where you create a list of friends you know to appreciate political posts, and post only for their eyes.
Re: Facebooker:
Just wanted to present the other side: I recently got off of Facebook in part because I was so annoyed by other people’s posts. Even when the “culprits” were people I knew well off of Facebook, it still irked me and made me want to interact with them less.
Anonymous
That’s worth thinking about for everyone using social media: Imagine a person you know. Any person, but mix it up — a family member, then a close-close friend, then a pleasant acquaintance. Now take this thing you’re about to post, and imagine saying it out loud to that person’s face. Would you do it? Standards that change with the platform = trouble.
I really do not understand why people join Facebook in the first place and why they are surprised everyone in the world (or at least a member of Facebook) can see and comment on their posts. Get a grip on life and take control of your life. If Facebook is such a problem, drop it. Gasp, shock. You will live without it...
I have four friends that I have unfollowed for various reasons. Some political some too much drama. The LW can make some people restricted so they don't see everything she posts. Easy peasy.
I've dropped people for political posts. I don't mind someone posting their views but when people get hateful with their views or if they post excessively then I will unfriend them. I don't want to see that all the time.
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I love facebook. But, I've been unfriended and I've unfriended for political reasons so now I just don't post during elections and I hide my lunatic friends. I unfriended someone about 4 months ago because she was so damn jaw droppingly dumb and mean. I didn't care at all that she knew I unfriended her because I unfriended her in real life too.
Fb kinda saved me durin my self imposed exile from here cuz my friends stil talked to me. Except flan wwho fot some inexplicable reason won't get on facebook.
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I'm the Ginger Rogers of spelling...that means I'm smat.
Lesson learned in February: I don't have to keep up, I just have to keep moving!
I'm occasionally raked over the coals for daring to issue my opinion on FB. I'm polite on other people's pages but I will say what I want to on my own page.
I love facebook. But, I've been unfriended and I've unfriended for political reasons so now I just don't post during elections and I hide my lunatic friends. I unfriended someone about 4 months ago because she was so damn jaw droppingly dumb and mean. I didn't care at all that she knew I unfriended her because I unfriended her in real life too.
Fb kinda saved me durin my self imposed exile from here cuz my friends stil talked to me. Except flan wwho fot some inexplicable reason won't get on facebook.
Your spelling my dear...
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I love facebook. But, I've been unfriended and I've unfriended for political reasons so now I just don't post during elections and I hide my lunatic friends. I unfriended someone about 4 months ago because she was so damn jaw droppingly dumb and mean. I didn't care at all that she knew I unfriended her because I unfriended her in real life too.
Fb kinda saved me durin my self imposed exile from here cuz my friends stil talked to me. Except flan wwho fot some inexplicable reason won't get on facebook.
Your spelling my dear...
Im ****ed up on meds darling. Cut me a break.
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I'm the Ginger Rogers of spelling...that means I'm smat.
Lesson learned in February: I don't have to keep up, I just have to keep moving!
I love facebook. But, I've been unfriended and I've unfriended for political reasons so now I just don't post during elections and I hide my lunatic friends. I unfriended someone about 4 months ago because she was so damn jaw droppingly dumb and mean. I didn't care at all that she knew I unfriended her because I unfriended her in real life too.
Fb kinda saved me durin my self imposed exile from here cuz my friends stil talked to me. Except flan wwho fot some inexplicable reason won't get on facebook.
Your spelling my dear...
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I don't post political stuff for the most part. But there is one acquaintance that keeps spewing really ignorant stuff. On 3 occasions I have corrected him and quickly backed up by other people I don't even know. He unfriended me after the last election because he posted about how the IRS scandal was a ruse by the GOP and I posted the documents released by the gov't about how democrats, and mostly our own NH Sentator Jean Shaheen, led the action for the IRS. Of course it came out the night (late) before the election because of the right to know law and so she was re elected.
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Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug.
My wife has a friend on facebook that posts opinions that she KNOWS are probably going to, let's say, get a reaction--and then she's all butt-hurt and pouts when someone disagrees with her. It's really annoying.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I just piss everyone off by playing Farmvillle and clogging up their feeds with my stuff. I've been deleted more than once for that. Oh well. Someone from DH's family told me I needed to get a real job instead of sitting around playing pretend games. She's a biotch anyway.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I just unfollowed someone because all she posts is attending seeking comments and about 5 different selfies a day looking for people to tell her she looks good.
Nothing is wrong with the selfie. She usually has the first comment and it's something like "look at my body" times that by 5 or 6 every day plus a dozen vague posts aimed at some dude who is playing her. It just gets old. I want to tell her if he isn't calling or coming by maybe it's time to move on.
Fish lips on my dog are cute. We do it all the time! And did you know the newest number one reason for plastic surgery is because of selfies?
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I just piss everyone off by playing Farmvillle and clogging up their feeds with my stuff. I've been deleted more than once for that. Oh well. Someone from DH's family told me I needed to get a real job instead of sitting around playing pretend games. She's a biotch anyway.
I turned off the game feeds on my page so I mine doesn't get clogged up.
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Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug.
I love facebook. But, I've been unfriended and I've unfriended for political reasons so now I just don't post during elections and I hide my lunatic friends. I unfriended someone about 4 months ago because she was so damn jaw droppingly dumb and mean. I didn't care at all that she knew I unfriended her because I unfriended her in real life too.
Fb kinda saved me durin my self imposed exile from here cuz my friends stil talked to me. Except flan wwho fot some inexplicable reason won't get on facebook.
I've never unfriended someone because of their political beliefs. I enjoy making fun of people and pointing out facts when they spew the liberal nonsense. It's become quite the hobby.
Now, I have been unfriended, but that's because I tend to make them look stupid and they can't have that!
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It isn't worth posting anything controversial. People are offended over practically everything nowadays. You can't even say God Bless You if someone sneezes or there will be one person who takes offense. So, I consider Facebook to be pretty much a public billboard. I post pics of my kids or talk about fluff stuff like what I made for dinner, etc. Not much more than that. If I want to talk more in depth, then I do so through private messaging.
But, it does have its uses. It's great for keeping on up on the lives of people I otherwise don't get to see like my niece who just moved to Japan and other relatives.
I set up an account under my posting name when the MSN board went down. I want to keep in touch with all the people I posted with back then. I rarely log on. There was a girl from a different board that friended me. We were friends on the board so sure. Oh my, she was one of those 5 selfie a day people. Then she would doctor the selfie adding color a la Andy Warhol. Ugh. I felt guilty if I unfriended her. Then she quit the board & unfriended me.
I set up an account under my posting name when the MSN board went down. I want to keep in touch with all the people I posted with back then. I rarely log on. There was a girl from a different board that friended me. We were friends on the board so sure. Oh my, she was one of those 5 selfie a day people. Then she would doctor the selfie adding color a la Andy Warhol. Ugh. I felt guilty if I unfriended her. Then she quit the board & unfriended me.
I have a couple IRL friends that post 6-10 pet pictures per day. I unfollow them.
I think it's funny that people are friends IRL with others who have such "radical" views...they just don't want to read about those views on FB! Hysterical! So it's ok to be friends with an axe murder as long as he doesn't post on FB about all the blood and gore? It's a head scratcher for me. I am not friends in real life with people whose views are drastically different than mine. I just don't have much in common with people who see things so differently. The people I am friends with IRL who may have one or two differences of opinion with, I can just ignore if/when they post about those topics.
I just don't get it.
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !
I think it's funny that people are friends IRL with others who have such "radical" views...they just don't want to read about those views on FB! Hysterical! So it's ok to be friends with an axe murder as long as he doesn't post on FB about all the blood and gore? It's a head scratcher for me. I am not friends in real life with people whose views are drastically different than mine. I just don't have much in common with people who see things so differently. The people I am friends with IRL who may have one or two differences of opinion with, I can just ignore if/when they post about those topics.
I just don't get it.
So, which radical views are you comparing to an axe murderer? LOL!
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I think it's funny that people are friends IRL with others who have such "radical" views...they just don't want to read about those views on FB! Hysterical! So it's ok to be friends with an axe murder as long as he doesn't post on FB about all the blood and gore? It's a head scratcher for me. I am not friends in real life with people whose views are drastically different than mine. I just don't have much in common with people who see things so differently. The people I am friends with IRL who may have one or two differences of opinion with, I can just ignore if/when they post about those topics.
I just don't get it.
So, you can only be friends with those who who agree with?
How boring. I've found that I can maintain friendships with people who often have diametrically opposite views from mine. I try to keep and open mind and listen to the opinions of others and can respect them as long as they respect mine.
I don't get limiting your life experiences in that way.
Maybe I'm just a people person.
What fun would life be if everyone agreed all the time?
-- Edited by huskerbb on Tuesday 9th of December 2014 08:32:34 PM
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I think it's funny that people are friends IRL with others who have such "radical" views...they just don't want to read about those views on FB! Hysterical! So it's ok to be friends with an axe murder as long as he doesn't post on FB about all the blood and gore? It's a head scratcher for me. I am not friends in real life with people whose views are drastically different than mine. I just don't have much in common with people who see things so differently. The people I am friends with IRL who may have one or two differences of opinion with, I can just ignore if/when they post about those topics.
I just don't get it.
So, you can only be friends with those who who agree with?
How boring. I've found that I can maintain friendships with people who often have diametrically opposite views from mine. I try to keep and open mind and listen to the opinions of others and can respect them as long as they respect mine.
I don't get limiting your life experiences in that way.
Maybe I'm just a people person.
What fun would life be if everyone agreed all the time?
-- Edited by huskerbb on Tuesday 9th of December 2014 08:32:34 PM
I think this is the best post you've ever posted. I'd give you a high five if I could...lol ^5
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