TOTALLY GEEKED!

huskerbb · Guru

This is a post on facebook. Kind of burns me.

NAOW · Vette's SS

I had to check out of a post on FB about this. The 'mommy wars' are running wild with this one.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

I wondered if it was posted just to rile people up.

-- Edited by I know what to do_sometimes on Thursday 18th of December 2014 05:19:00 AM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Do I need to remind y'all why I DON'T do Facebook?

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

flan327 wrote:
Do I need to remind y'all why I DON'T do Facebook?

flan

You will survive while the rest of us die in FB h$ll

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Do I need to remind y'all why I DON'T do Facebook?

flan
You will survive while the rest of us die in FB h$ll

I have enough things that piss me off without adding another one... biggrin

flan

chillepeppa · Regular

I cannot remember that that was ever an issue to me as a kid. And we were also on the not so well to do side of the spectrum. Seems this is an issue the mother has in regards to what they can afford vs what the Joneses can. She needs to get over herself.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

chillepeppa wrote:
I cannot remember that that was ever an issue to me as a kid. And we were also on the not so well to do side of the spectrum. Seems this is an issue the mother has in regards to what they can afford vs what the Joneses can. She needs to get over herself.

Yep. A friend of mine PM's me about on FB about this post. I told her that kids who are at the Santa believing stage don't have a concept of money and cost of different items. I also reminded her that schools do not allow kids to bring toys in to school. I still think the post is a fake just to get people riled up.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

We only ever got a stocking from Santa, full of fun little things and candy, and one larger thing, usually a stuffed animal, but occasionally a book, resting next to it. My special ornament for that year was always in the stocking.

I guess it would never occur to me to give an x-box from Santa in the first place.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Oh brother. What self righteous crap! Guess what Johnny, some kids are going to get MORE stuff than you. And, some kids will get less stuff than you. Boo freaking hoo. Wow.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't see it as offensive really.

I see it more as don't forget to teach your kids that not everyone is as blessed maybe and to not take anything for granted.

I stopped writing "from Santa" on gifts a while back.

I don't remember it ever being a big deal when I was a kid. There were times I got the coolest stuff in my class and other times I got the lamest stuff in the class.

But then again I wasn't raised in a climate of everyone loved me and I deserved the best and biggest just because I showed up.

The best things were always the things we worked for and earned.

Not the case in the world of today's kids.

JPT · Senior Member

I don't think it's saying to not buy what you wish for your children for Christmas...I do think it makes a point about making a "Santa" delivered gift more measured, and the balance from the parents.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

JPT wrote:
I don't think it's saying to not buy what you wish for your children for Christmas...I do think it makes a point about making a "Santa" delivered gift more measured, and the balance from the parents.

We need lectured from other parents WHY?

JPT · Senior Member

Lecture? Only if you choose to call it that. They had as much right to post that as you do to post anything you wish.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't see it as offensive really.

I see it more as don't forget to teach your kids that not everyone is as blessed maybe and to not take anything for granted.

I stopped writing "from Santa" on gifts a while back.

I don't remember it ever being a big deal when I was a kid. There were times I got the coolest stuff in my class and other times I got the lamest stuff in the class.

But then again I wasn't raised in a climate of everyone loved me and I deserved the best and biggest just because I showed up.

The best things were always the things we worked for and earned.

Not the case in the world of today's kids.

But you are making the exact same assumptions that this LW did--namely that anyone who can afford anything better than her automatically has spoiled kids that are getting "whatever they want".

That is BS. She (or you) don't know that to be the case at all. Just because some kid get a bike when another kid gets a sock full of candy doesn't mean the kid who gets the bike is "spoiled" or is "getting the biggest and best just because they showed up".

Sure, SOME kids are spoiled--but to make the assumption that every kid who gets nicer crap for Christmas than your kids is ridiculous.

I'm betting my kids worked harder than 90% of kids out there. Not that I think they worked that hard--but most kids don't do a damn thing. My kids were dragging 1200 lb. cattle around by a rope when they were 8 years old.

huskerbb · Guru

JPT wrote:
I don't think it's saying to not buy what you wish for your children for Christmas...I do think it makes a point about making a "Santa" delivered gift more measured, and the balance from the parents.

And that's BS. She just wants to make herself feel better. It has nothing to do with kids.

Want to afford better crap? Make more money.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

JPT wrote:
Lecture? Only if you choose to call it that. They had as much right to post that as you do to post anything you wish.

Sure. And, we have the right to tell her that her comments are annoying as well.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Same old socialism. Instead of expecting better of people or encouraging more, we just require LESS of everyone. Make everyone feel better by playing to the lowest common denominator instead. Let's all live like the Soviet Union. Yay!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I am not sure how it makes my life "better" if the next door neighbor doesn't buy their kid an Xbox but gives them a pencil and an orange instead. How does that make my kid's life better? Isn't it MY job to make MY kid's life better not theirs? What bunk.

JPT · Senior Member

Well, I do believe Santa is a socialist...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't see it as offensive really.

I see it more as don't forget to teach your kids that not everyone is as blessed maybe and to not take anything for granted.

I stopped writing "from Santa" on gifts a while back.

I don't remember it ever being a big deal when I was a kid. There were times I got the coolest stuff in my class and other times I got the lamest stuff in the class.

But then again I wasn't raised in a climate of everyone loved me and I deserved the best and biggest just because I showed up.

The best things were always the things we worked for and earned.

Not the case in the world of today's kids.
But you are making the exact same assumptions that this LW did--namely that anyone who can afford anything better than her automatically has spoiled kids that are getting "whatever they want".

That is BS. She (or you) don't know that to be the case at all. Just because some kid get a bike when another kid gets a sock full of candy doesn't mean the kid who gets the bike is "spoiled" or is "getting the biggest and best just because they showed up".

Sure, SOME kids are spoiled--but to make the assumption that every kid who gets nicer crap for Christmas than your kids is ridiculous.

I'm betting my kids worked harder than 90% of kids out there. Not that I think they worked that hard--but most kids don't do a damn thing. My kids were dragging 1200 lb. cattle around by a rope when they were 8 years old.

Uh. You want to see that if that is what you see.

Whatever.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

No, not really. If he is making a list and checking it twice to find out who is naughty and nice, then I would say not. Because that means Santa is OMG JUDGING!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
No, not really. If he is making a list and checking it twice to find out who is naughty and nice, then I would say not. Because that means Santa is OMG JUDGING!

That's right. And the kids that behave better should get better presents:P

Lindley · Guru

My parents bought a lot of inexpensive toys and one special toy that I wanted for Christmas from santa. It looked like I got a whole bunch of toys and it didn't cost them to much.

I hated the one about the family who choose to skip Christmas this year due to their kids acting ungrateful and serving the homeless. That is fine and their choosing. I think what bothered me is when they post things like this it appears they are bragging of how wonderful they are and everyone should do the same thing.

Also about the post this thread is about, we can't protect our children from everything and we can't expect other parents to deny their children gifts or change their traditions just because they can't give big gifts to their children.

TrudyML · Guru

An actually the shelters/homeless centers ask they serve on other days when they could use the help.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Lindley wrote:
My parents bought a lot of inexpensive toys and one special toy that I wanted for Christmas from santa. It looked like I got a whole bunch of toys and it didn't cost them to much.

I hated the one about the family who choose to skip Christmas this year due to their kids acting ungrateful and serving the homeless. That is fine and their choosing. I think what bothered me is when they post things like this it appears they are bragging of how wonderful they are and everyone should do the same thing.

Also about the post this thread is about, we can't protect our children from everything and we can't expect other parents to deny their children gifts or change their traditions just because they can't give big gifts to their children.

That is what is irritating me too. In my family, Santa doesn't bring the big gifts, the parents do, but that is OUR tradition. I know that A LOT of people traditionally have Santa bring the special gift. Why should they have to change that?

Everyone is talking about their reasons for not doing Santa on the comments to this post (on my FB) like it's the best way and the only way and everyone else is wrong or stupid for 'lying' to their kids. Or selfish for wanting Santa to bring their kids' presents. It bugs me.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Also, my idea of modest is different than someone else's. This year DD is getting a hula hoop and a snow shovel (I'm not a horrible parent, she REALLY has been asking for her own snow shovel) It cost me about $15. But that is still more exciting than the hat and gloves used in this example. So should I have to do less? Where do you draw the line?

I don't remember ever comparing Santa gifts with people. We would compare our gifts, but we didn't sit and tally up what Santa brought everyone. So far, DD hasn't either, but if she does, I will figure out a way to explain it that doesn't leave her 'heartbroken.'

huskerbb · Guru

NAOW wrote:
Also, my idea of modest is different than someone else's. This year DD is getting a hula hoop and a snow shovel (I'm not a horrible parent, she REALLY has been asking for her own snow shovel) It cost me about $15. But that is still more exciting than the hat and gloves used in this example. So should I have to do less? Where do you draw the line?

I don't remember ever comparing Santa gifts with people. We would compare our gifts, but we didn't sit and tally up what Santa brought everyone. So far, DD hasn't either, but if she does, I will figure out a way to explain it that doesn't leave her 'heartbroken.'

Exactly. Again, unless you are bill gates, someone can always buy a better present than you can. I'm not going to refrain from getting my kids an xbox just because everyone in the town can't afford it.

TrudyML · Guru

Can I have an Xbox?

Thanks!

huskerbb · Guru

Are you on the nice list?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

If your children are unable to appreciate what they are given and are worried about what their friends are given that says more about your parenting abilities than your kids.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
If your children are unable to appreciate what they are given and are worried about what their friends are given that says more about your parenting abilities than your kids.

No kidding--but she, or at least many of the Facebook commenters, are trying to make anyone who they deem that gets a "good" present to be the selfish ungrateful ones.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I think people are too money focused. Every year we set a budget and we stick as closely as we can to that. We do end up going over it a little bit every year but we also kind of know that too and adjust what we are going to spend. We ask the kids what they want and we shop for them within that budget. They know if they want more expensive presents they'll get less. Pretty simple.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

So, my stupid SIL who is pregnant for the third time posted on FB, "I need help. I need people to tell us how much is appropriate for us to spend on our two kids." Really? You need people to TELL you that?

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So, my stupid SIL who is pregnant for the third time posted on FB, "I need help. I need people to tell us how much is appropriate for us to spend on our two kids." Really? You need people to TELL you that?

I double dog dare you to post an outrageous response. Like $1000 per kid or they're bad parents . . .

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Tignanello wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So, my stupid SIL who is pregnant for the third time posted on FB, "I need help. I need people to tell us how much is appropriate for us to spend on our two kids." Really? You need people to TELL you that?
I double dog dare you to post an outrageous response. Like $1000 per kid or they're bad parents . . .

ed11563 · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So, my stupid SIL who is pregnant for the third time posted on FB, "I need help. I need people to tell us how much is appropriate for us to spend on our two kids." Really? You need people to TELL you that?

I'd be tempted to tell her that she should take ALL the money they're spending on alcohol, tobacco, and other drugs, and spend THAT on their kids. Every month. Every day.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tignanello wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So, my stupid SIL who is pregnant for the third time posted on FB, "I need help. I need people to tell us how much is appropriate for us to spend on our two kids." Really? You need people to TELL you that?
I double dog dare you to post an outrageous response. Like $1000 per kid or they're bad parents . . .

$1000 per kid PER DAY...for The Twelve days of Christmas!

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, that sounds about right, lol.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

A lot of people wrote in stuff like that flan! It was funny. My VSS SIL is a mooch. Total mooch. Her parents pay all her bills. She's pregnant for the third time and on welfare. She wants six kids. And she's mean to her husband. I don't know why he even stays with her. There were so many ugly things I wanted to write but for DH's sake I did not. However, I've been married almost six years and I know my SIL. This post, in SIL speak, means "We have no money. Would you help us out." Instead, here is what I wrote: You look at your budget and see what you can afford. Then you set your budget according to that. And always remember to set a tiny bit aside to buy something for someone who has nothing. Because even if you have very little there's someone with less than you. And that's an important lesson for kids to learn too. Kids are influenced by their parents attitudes. So it really doesn't matter if you spend $20 or $20000. If you have taught them right they will appreciate what they get. But again, I think it's important for parents to see what they can afford. No one should be going into debt for something like Christmas.

I got eight likes. Not that it really matters. I wrote what I wrote honestly. She won't listen. But I knew that when I wrote it.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

At least you had the guts to say it, NJN.

flan

Vette · Owl drink to that!

I think any kid who is focusing on whether his gift is better or worse than someone else's is spoiled and entitled. Unless it's with a sibling and then it's pretty normal.

Blankie · Guru

JPT wrote:
Well, I do believe Santa is a socialist...

LOL JPT! I think so too!

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

VetteGirl wrote:
I think any kid who is focusing on whether his gift is better or worse than someone else's is spoiled and entitled. Unless it's with a sibling and then it's pretty normal.

The only time I ever remember feeling jealous or even noticing other people's gifts was one year my younger sister and I got matching baby dolls and my older sister got a waterbed. I do remember thinking I got the short end of the stick that year. But never before or after did I compare my gifts to even my siblings.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

J is the kid who will quietly add up in his head what they all get.

He then says something like "wow that was a lot".

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Blankie wrote:
JPT wrote:
Well, I do believe Santa is a socialist...
LOL JPT! I think so too!

How could he be a socialist if the is keeping the Naughty and Nice list and making judgments?

huskerbb · Guru

We don't really have a budget, I guess. The two families we have a name draw with have a limit of about $50, but then we buy stuff to put in stockings, too.

I paid a $600 car bill for my oldest son earlier this year, so Merry Christmas. So then I gave my other son $500 cash to sort of even things out.

Last year we got our godson a really nice coat--but we probably won't spend that much this year.