TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Constipated goldfish's life saved with $465 surgery

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

I don't think I've ever heard of a fish having surgery before.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

I don't think I would ever notice a fish being constipated...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I love the fact that the guy left, felt guilty & came back...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, who would notice that a fish is constipated? And even if it was, isn't it likely to happen again?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Yeah, who would notice that a fish is constipated? And even if it was, isn't it likely to happen again?

I was just getting ready to post the same thing...unless they make Ex-Lax for fish...

flan

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

It's sweet that the goldfish was saved.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Southern_Belle wrote:
It's sweet that the goldfish was saved.

Yes, and now it will just die next month because it is time. But that was money well spent.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Southern_Belle wrote:
It's sweet that the goldfish was saved.
Yes, and now it will just die next month because it is time. But that was money well spent.

You forgot your sarcastic emoticon.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Who cares? Why be sarcastic? People spend many times that on elderly cats and dogs. If they have the money they can spend it however they choose.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

It's a fish.

I wouldn't have taken it to the vet to begin with.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Feeding a goldfish peas is a notorious cure for constipation. I wonder why he didn't feed the fish a shelled pea?

I have a fish tank of several goldfish and I do it about once a month as routine maintenance.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Southern_Belle wrote:
Who cares? Why be sarcastic? People spend many times that on elderly cats and dogs. If they have the money they can spend it however they choose.

It's a 2" fish with a shelf life of 2 years max, that's why.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Yeah, who would notice that a fish is constipated? And even if it was, isn't it likely to happen again?

When they are constipated, they tend to float sideways. Their belly leads the way. If you have fish, it is pretty obvious when they are constipated actually. I know it sounds strange but you can tell.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Southern_Belle wrote:
Who cares? Why be sarcastic? People spend many times that on elderly cats and dogs. If they have the money they can spend it however they choose.
It's a 2" fish with a shelf life of 2 years max, that's why.

Just because this life isn't important to you and precious in your eyes doesn't mean it isn't to someone else.

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

I'm still trying to figure out how you do surgery on a fish?

Do they have to be in water? If not, how do they breathe?

I'm just wondering how it is done. confuse

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Southern_Belle wrote:
It's sweet that the goldfish was saved.
Yes, and now it will just die next month because it is time. But that was money well spent.
You forgot your sarcastic emoticon.

I thought it would be understood.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I would never spend this money on a fish because I think it's a waste of my money. I wouldn't criticize someone who did though. It's their money and their decision.

I had a fish a few weeks back that had fin rot. Their fins literally rot away and they eventually die. I spent about $5 on a treatment. When it didn't work, I watched the fish. When it appeared that it was not swimming normally, I knew the end was near. I removed it from the tank, put it in a ziploc bag and it died. It would have taken days more to die of the fin rot. I put it out of its misery - although on fish forums they say you should smash it with a hammer to get it over quickly. I couldn't do that though.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I had a goldfish live two years. Then it got the ick. I tried treating the ick, but the fish died, anyway.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

A brick works too.

Just saying.

huskerbb · Guru

I wouldn't spend that much on a dog, either.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
I wouldn't spend that much on a dog, either.

I would.

flan

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

lilyofcourse wrote:
A brick works too.

Just saying.

Or a bible.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Southern_Belle wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
A brick works too.

Just saying.
Or a bible.

Touche!

flan

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Southern_Belle wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
A brick works too.

Just saying.
Or a bible.

OMG ... I ❤️ this comment.

All lives are sacred...unless it's a goldfish.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
I wouldn't spend that much on a dog, either.

Oh, I would. And have.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

A goldfish is not a human being. I would keep it till it died, then FLUSH. Or, I might splat it with the Bible if necessary.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

How can you tell if a goldfish needs putting down? When it dies, I flush it. I do not have the time or inclination to spend that much time staring at my goldfish to determine if it is in pain.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Mellow Momma wrote:
Southern_Belle wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
A brick works too.

Just saying.
Or a bible.
OMG ... I ❤️ this comment.

All lives are sacred...unless it's a goldfish.

What about an angelfish?

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
How can you tell if a goldfish needs putting down? When it dies, I flush it. I do not have the time or inclination to spend that much time staring at my goldfish to determine if it is in pain.

Yeah, that also falls under "get a life"! lol

FNW · Guru

There are some breeds of dogs that are prone to digestive issues...like shih tzus. Rubbing their bellies help with this. I think for $495, I would have tried rubbing the fish's belly first and if that didn't work, flush-a-roo.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lawyerlady wrote:
How can you tell if a goldfish needs putting down? When it dies, I flush it. I do not have the time or inclination to spend that much time staring at my goldfish to determine if it is in pain.

Well, if you own fish, you can see if it is breathing or not. If it's breathing is slow or labored, it's probably in pain. Just like any other living thing. If it is, like mine was, then you should probably do what you would do for any other pet.

I find it ironic that the "all life is sacred" people are scoffing at someone saving a fish, or putting a fish out of its pain. Very telling.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
How can you tell if a goldfish needs putting down? When it dies, I flush it. I do not have the time or inclination to spend that much time staring at my goldfish to determine if it is in pain.
Well, if you own fish, you can see if it is breathing or not. If it's breathing is slow or labored, it's probably in pain. Just like any other living thing. If it is, like mine was, then you should probably do what you would do for any other pet.

I find it ironic that the "all life is sacred" people are scoffing at someone saving a fish, or putting a fish out of its pain. Very telling.

What is so "telling"? That is ridiculous. No, there is not the same value in the life of a goldfish as there is a human being.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I am sure you would go to the ends of the earth and bankrupt yourself to save your goldfish? Not.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
How can you tell if a goldfish needs putting down? When it dies, I flush it. I do not have the time or inclination to spend that much time staring at my goldfish to determine if it is in pain.
Well, if you own fish, you can see if it is breathing or not. If it's breathing is slow or labored, it's probably in pain. Just like any other living thing. If it is, like mine was, then you should probably do what you would do for any other pet.

I find it ironic that the "all life is sacred" people are scoffing at someone saving a fish, or putting a fish out of its pain. Very telling.

What if the fish had needed to use a handicapped stall?

flan

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I don't think so either LGS. Not even close. I would assess the fish and proceed as I stated that I did. Try a simple cure theN put the fish out of its suffering.

But if you are arguing that every human life is sacred and deserves to be lived to its fullest no matter what..but then also say that someone who takes 30 seconds to see if a fish is suffering and puts it out of its misery needs to get a life...well...

To me it just doesn't make sense. Human life is sacred. Animal life is to be trashed without a thought?

-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Sunday 4th of January 2015 02:52:06 PM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
How can you tell if a goldfish needs putting down? When it dies, I flush it. I do not have the time or inclination to spend that much time staring at my goldfish to determine if it is in pain.
Well, if you own fish, you can see if it is breathing or not. If it's breathing is slow or labored, it's probably in pain. Just like any other living thing. If it is, like mine was, then you should probably do what you would do for any other pet.

I find it ironic that the "all life is sacred" people are scoffing at someone saving a fish, or putting a fish out of its pain. Very telling.

You are comparing a goldfish to a person?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
I don't think so either. Not even close.

But if you are arguing that every human life is sacred and deserves to be lived to its fullest no matter what..but then also say that someone who takes 30 seconds to see if a fish is suffering and puts it out of its misery needs to get a life...well...

To me it just doesn't make sense. Human life is sacred. Animal life is to be trashed without a thought?

What utter nonsense.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
How can you tell if a goldfish needs putting down? When it dies, I flush it. I do not have the time or inclination to spend that much time staring at my goldfish to determine if it is in pain.
Well, if you own fish, you can see if it is breathing or not. If it's breathing is slow or labored, it's probably in pain. Just like any other living thing. If it is, like mine was, then you should probably do what you would do for any other pet.

I find it ironic that the "all life is sacred" people are scoffing at someone saving a fish, or putting a fish out of its pain. Very telling.
You are comparing a goldfish to a person?

No. I never compared the two. Not anyplace. Just stated that if a living being is suffering I would do what I could to lessen the suffering.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
I don't think so either. Not even close.

But if you are arguing that every human life is sacred and deserves to be lived to its fullest no matter what..but then also say that someone who takes 30 seconds to see if a fish is suffering and puts it out of its misery needs to get a life...well...

To me it just doesn't make sense. Human life is sacred. Animal life is to be trashed without a thought?

I loved my fish very much, but I never noticed their breathing patterns or whether they were in pain. The ONLY time I noticed a problem was with ick. And I'm pretty sure I'm on the normal end of that spectrum. We have fish now, the kids feed them, I don't even look at them.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
How can you tell if a goldfish needs putting down? When it dies, I flush it. I do not have the time or inclination to spend that much time staring at my goldfish to determine if it is in pain.
Well, if you own fish, you can see if it is breathing or not. If it's breathing is slow or labored, it's probably in pain. Just like any other living thing. If it is, like mine was, then you should probably do what you would do for any other pet.

I find it ironic that the "all life is sacred" people are scoffing at someone saving a fish, or putting a fish out of its pain. Very telling.
You are comparing a goldfish to a person?
No. I never compared the two. Not anyplace. Just stated that if a living being is suffering I would do what I could to lessen the suffering.

I think you can lessen it's suffering without a $400 vet bill.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Dog and cats aren't human. I guess we can lessen their suffering without cost as well when they get sick.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
How can you tell if a goldfish needs putting down? When it dies, I flush it. I do not have the time or inclination to spend that much time staring at my goldfish to determine if it is in pain.
Well, if you own fish, you can see if it is breathing or not. If it's breathing is slow or labored, it's probably in pain. Just like any other living thing. If it is, like mine was, then you should probably do what you would do for any other pet.

I find it ironic that the "all life is sacred" people are scoffing at someone saving a fish, or putting a fish out of its pain. Very telling.
You are comparing a goldfish to a person?
No. I never compared the two. Not anyplace. Just stated that if a living being is suffering I would do what I could to lessen the suffering.
I think you can lessen it's suffering without a $400 vet bill.

Which I did. I explained how. It literally took me a glance to see that it was not breathing properly. I didn't spend hours staring at the tank. I walked by, noticed it was suffering, and the entire ordeal took about 5 minutes.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Southern_Belle wrote:
Dog and cats aren't human. I guess we can lessen their suffering without cost as well when they get sick.

I agree and for the millionth time, I am not comparing the life of any pet to a human life. Human life is much different.

i happen to think that if you are going to take the responsibility to own a pet, you should own all aspects of its life. The good the bad and the ugly. You owe it to the pet to ensure it isn't suffering.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Southern_Belle wrote:
Dog and cats aren't human. I guess we can lessen their suffering without cost as well when they get sick.

I don't think you can compare a goldfish to a cat or a dog. Their lifespan is minimal and they serve no purpose whatsoever except to look pretty in a bowl.

huskerbb · Guru

Southern_Belle wrote:
Dog and cats aren't human. I guess we can lessen their suffering without cost as well when they get sick.

We can.

FNW · Guru

I wouldn't spend $495 on a dog or cat either, unless it was a source of income. I'm sure this shocks and offends some, but that's just how I feel.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I know of a living being who serves no purpose other than to look good. This being cannot feed itself, clean up it's living space, or take care of any of its own needs. It is totally dependant on humans for survival. It's life expectancy isn't long. Should I spend money to ensure it lives longer? You seem to be saying no. But if this being is a person...then we should?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
I know of a living being who serves no purpose other than to look good. This being cannot feed itself, clean up it's living space, or take care of any of its own needs. It is totally dependant on humans for survival. It's life expectancy isn't long. Should I spend money to ensure it lives longer? You seem to be saying no. But if this being is a person...then we should?

People have inherent value - they are not comparable.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Southern_Belle wrote:
Dog and cats aren't human. I guess we can lessen their suffering without cost as well when they get sick.

With a Bible or a brick?

flan