Help! My Mom Drove My Son Away by Fat-Shaming His Wife.
Goading Granny
Prudie advises a man whose now-dying mother enjoys haranguing plus-size loved ones.
Q. My Son Adores His Plus-Size Wife, and My Mother Despises Her: My mother has always had an unreasonable dislike for excess weight. She hardly eats and harangues her daughters and daughters-in-law each time they have a baby to lose the weight immediately. Three years ago, my eldest son brought home his bride-to-be, a sweet, lovely, voluptuous girl. My wife and I loved her instantly, but we worried about my mother’s reaction. Sure enough, she made some comments, to which my son calmly replied that if she was not polite to his beloved, she would not be invited to the wedding. My mother was furious, and my son ended up having a destination wedding to avoid the drama. Though we see my son and DIL regularly, he has not spoken to his grandmother since. They spend holidays with my DIL’s family. My mother will not promise to hold her tongue about my DIL’s “horrid fat.” In desperation, I at one point offered to pay for a personal trainer or even gastric bypass, but that only led to a huge argument with my son. Now, my mother has cancer and just months to live. I would love to have one final family gathering with every member in attendance, but my son will not attend without his wife, and he will not bring her if it means she will be subjected to unkind comments. I can’t persuade my mother to change her ways, but is there something I could say to my son to convince him to suck it up this once for the sake of family harmony and good memories?
A: The memories aren’t going to be good if on her deathbed Grandma opens her eyes, looks at your son and his wife, and says, “At least in heaven, everyone is thin.” Your mother has a mental disorder and unfortunately, she likes to try to impose that on the other women in her family. I hope most of these women have been able to roll their eyes and dismiss the sick and cruel talk from your mother. You say you recognize how awful she is, yet, in order to mollify your mother, you offered to pay for a gastric bypass for your daughter-in-law? Dad, you’re lucky your son still speaks to you. You can apologize to your son and say that you know your mother has had a lifetime problem, but her life is coming to an end, and you’re making one last request that he make an appearance by her bedside. If he won’t, you let it go, because he is entitled to say that his grandmother has crossed a line in a way that means he has had to cross her out of his life.
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Sometimes people with dementia can get mean. Usually someone who was otherwise sweet but then the illness changes their brain. She just sounds mean and miserable.
I can't believe the OP offered to pay for a person trainer. How exactly did that conversation go? "Hey son, I care more about my mother's feelings than I do about yours or your wife's...how about I spring for a personal trainer for the chubby wife of yours ?" It seems the only person the OP has any empathy for is his mother!
Prudie is right - she is lucky the son still talks to him at all.
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !
Son is one hell of a man, so his parents can't be all bad. Grandma is cut off because she's a bitch, and that is just rewards. Being nasty to people all your life means you don't die surrounded by loving family and friends.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Son is one hell of a man, so his parents can't be all bad. Grandma is cut off because she's a bitch, and that is just rewards. Being nasty to people all your life means you don't die surrounded by loving family and friends.
This. It's a sad thing. My dad's 2nd wife was like that.
I can't believe the OP offered to pay for a person trainer. How exactly did that conversation go? "Hey son, I care more about my mother's feelings than I do about yours or your wife's...how about I spring for a personal trainer for the chubby wife of yours ?" It seems the only person the OP has any empathy for is his mother!
Prudie is right - she is lucky the son still talks to him at all.
I can see the LW trying to find some way -- any way -- to resolve the problem.
The better way would be to (1) find out whether his mean mother does in fact have a diagnosis of dementia, and (2) tell her to STFU. Although if he had Alzheimer's, she won't remember.
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The Principle of Least Interest: He who cares least about a relationship, controls it.
On one hand, I can understand the LW wanting his son to show up and say goodbye. On the other hand, I don't blame the son for staying far away from LW's mom.
I don't understand why the LW approached this that way. Rather than support the son & wife he suggests losing weight to please granny? He's lucky the son still speaks to HIM!
Son is one hell of a man, so his parents can't be all bad. Grandma is cut off because she's a bitch, and that is just rewards. Being nasty to people all your life means you don't die surrounded by loving family and friends.
Sometimes kids turn out well in spite of their parents and not because of them. I know - I married one who did just that.
The OP still sounds like an idiot to me. After the offer to pay for a trainer, I would have cut him off as well. Or at least seriously limited contact.
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !
Yeah, pretty much what so many have said here. This old biotch doesn't have a mental disorder. It's called meanness. That's all. Meanness is not a mental disorder. Especially when you've been that way all your life. And it doesn't signal dementia or alzheimers if you've been a biotch since you were young. People like this get what they deserve when they die. My parents are like this. You reap what you sow. You don't deserve to have a bunch of people gathered around your deathbed saying loving and supportive things to you when you've treated them like crap all your life. And as to the LW, pffft, he's just as bad! Really? He suggested a personal trainer or gastric bypass? Maybe, just maybe, his son sees the wonderful person inside.
The grandson sounds like the only one behaving with any decency here! Kudos to him. I wouldn't go either.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Son is one hell of a man, so his parents can't be all bad. Grandma is cut off because she's a bitch, and that is just rewards. Being nasty to people all your life means you don't die surrounded by loving family and friends.
This. It's a sad thing. My dad's 2nd wife was like that.