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My dog is losing hair.  She has been for several months now.  Probably almost six months.  Before you accuse me of being a horrible pet owner we've had her at three different vets and on three different med treatments.  All of them work for about a week and then stop working.  She doesn't scratch out of boredom and she doesn't have fleas.  She's the only one of the three that is losing hair.  We've had her at three vets and three groomers and $500 later we still don't know anything.  DH took these pictures to Petco today and they told us to put her on hypoallergenic food that is $37/for five pounds.  I guess I'm hoping someone might recognize this.  We have done tons of research online.  I mean hours upon hours.  I think she may have a grass allergy.

This is her belly.  It's going bald and the rash is from the scratching.

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This is her little armpit.  She gets these bumps and scratches until they bleed.

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This is the inside of her ear.  Same bumps.  Same scratching.  Then they bleed.

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You can see how badly she scratches.

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Her face.  Around her eyes the hair is starting to fall out.  We've been calling her our raccoon.

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Close up of the bumps on her belly.

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This is the outside of her ear.  The hair is falling off.

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Here's a better picture.

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We've had so many opinions.  We're at our wits end.  We just want our dog happy and comfortable.



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Allergies are horrible and sometimes so difficult to diagnose!  I'm sorry you guys have to go through this.  I know you love your dogs.

Were the treatments steroidal (Pred?) or something else?



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That looks exactly like our previous dog. Hers was due to allergies. We changed her food sooooo many times. She would be ok on the new food for about 6 months and then she would become allergic to it putting us right back where we started.

The vet told us that she apparently had a weakend immune system and that there really wasn't much they could do other than treat the symptoms. Before we had her put down (totally unrelated reason), she was almost completely bald on her stomach, arm pits, face and ears.

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Have you tried benadryl? My aunt had a dog that had the same thing and they were able to control it with benadryl.

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Her ears look like my dog's ears. Vet said mix half white vinegar half water and spray it in her ears, a lot, not just a spritz. She won't like it and will shake it and run around but it kills the fungus.

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Yeah - it looks like a couple of things are going on. My pooch had similar baldness and scratching - it was an allergy based skin condition. The problem, though, is you don't know if it is a food or environmental allergy until you start changing things.

What worked for my little guy is a 'limited ingredient diet' which consists of unfamiliar proteins (venison, buffalo, etc) and a starch that is not grain/gluten based. Generally sweet potato. Dogs become allergic to things that they are exposed to, which is a pain when it comes to food, but removing chicken and grain from his diet has made a world of difference and his bald patches have almost disappeared. You don't have to pay huge money for limited ingredient food, but it is definitely more expensive than the grocery store stuff!

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NJN, I did just change our 3 dogs' protein recently because of excessive itching.  2 out of 3 are greatly improved, and I think little Megan is a bit better.  However, none of our babies have a rash as seen in your pictures. cry

I feed Flint River Ranch, because I believe it is an excellent food made using human consumption standards.  Pricing is not bad considering the quality, plus free shipping to your door and excellent customer service.  Just a suggestion.  They also have a Pet Gallery where they encourage you to post pictures of your fur babies. 

Right now I have ours on the Lamb, Millet, and Rice Kibble Dog Food, but there are several protein/carb combinations available.  I had good luck with Salmon Potato kibble in the past, and I might try that one next to see if I can get 3 out of 3 greatly improved.

http://www.flintriver.com/

 



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Salmon based ones are the ones I avoid because they give the Pooch the WORST breath ever.....

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Maybe changing her food would help.

Good luck, NJN.

Jupie has never had a rash, so, I'm afraid I'm not much help.cry



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I think the suggestions are good. I don't have any advice. I hope it gets better. I can see why that is so frustrating!

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The first treatment she was on was an ointment. Helped temporarily. Then a powder. Helped temporarily. Then an antibiotic and a steroid (Prednisone). Again, helped temporarily. We've been told to wash her more, wash her less. Wash her with a dozen different products. Nothing has really worked. Last night we started her on a high end food. Gluten free, grain free, all kinds of free things. The dog food rep was at the store and said if this works to call her. She gave us her cell phone number. She said she wanted to come out and get before and after pictures for her website if it worked. I told DH I hope free food comes with it if it does!

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The first treatment she was on was an ointment. Helped temporarily. Then a powder. Helped temporarily. Then an antibiotic and a steroid (Prednisone). Again, helped temporarily. We've been told to wash her more, wash her less. Wash her with a dozen different products. Nothing has really worked. Last night we started her on a high end food. Gluten free, grain free, all kinds of free things. The dog food rep was at the store and said if this works to call her. She gave us her cell phone number. She said she wanted to come out and get before and after pictures for her website if it worked. I told DH I hope free food comes with it if it does!


I hope the change in diet helps!smile 



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At this point we're willing to try anything. And we don't feed our dogs cheap food either! We buy them Purina in the green bag. I think it's the adult formula. Our lab has a really sensitive stomach and that's all he can eat. Anyway, we're phasing them in. The lady told us to mix it in with the Purina for so many days. We're supposed to be increasing it over a period of two weeks until they are only eating the new food. Apparently, Purina has tons of fillers in it so their stomachs need time to adjust to the richer food.

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Oh, and tlc, we give her Benadryl when it gets really bad. We also use the topical. It doesn't really seem to help.

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I hope you can find some relief for the dog, NJN. It is so frustrating when one of our pets gets sick and the vet can't help and the pet can't tell us what is wrong.... I sympathize with you and hope there is something that will help out soon.

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I wonder whether a tiny dab of toothpaste on each bump might dry them up.

I also wonder whether that's safe if the dog licks it.

Or maybe Calamine Lotion



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The dog got worse. It got to a point where she was Crimson Red. It literally looked like raw bloody meat. We THOUGHT she was bleeding but she wasn't. It was just THAT red. I got so desperate I emailed Texas A&M vet department and asked for help. They suggested we have OUR vet call THEIR doggie dermatologist and give us a referral. Then we have to make an appointment and drive her down to A&M. The whole process takes about four months and is highly expensive. With DH unemployed we can't really afford that. So we opted for a different idea.

Yesterday we went and bought Dreft. For babies. She lays on a sheet on our bed and I wash it almost daily because of her hair falling out. We washed the sheet in Dreft. We also purchased a hypoallergenic shampoo and a hypoallergenic anti itch spray. Before we went to bed last night we used hypoallergenic lotion on her stomach. We still have her on the new high quality food. She has been getting a monthly heartworm medicine for awhile now. We also treated all the dogs for fleas, ticks, and mites even though there was no evidence of that. (Did this earlier in the week and didn't notice a difference.)

Using the Dreft and lotion only, just overnight the redness has gone down. She doesn't have as many bumps but still has some. She hasn't scratched once all day. I believe whatever is irritating her skin is causing her to scratch and cause the redness. We have been applying hypoallergenic lotion to her skin throughout the day. Just in 24 hours her skin seems to be looking a lot better. We think maybe the dyes and perfumes in the laundry soap is bothering her skin and drying it out. We did recently change laundry detergents and noticed it got worse when we did.

Our new plan is to wash her bedding and any towels we use at bath time in Dreft. Her things will be washed in hypoallergenic stuff. She will only be bathed in hypoallergenic stuff and we will treat the dry skin with hypoallergenic lotion. We've done tons and tons and tons of research pouring over charts and articles and pictures. Everything we've read and seen points to allergies. They say the most common are either environmental or food. So we're hoping the changes we have made will make a difference. Wish us luck!

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I hope that's all it takes for her to get better!


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What is the blanket made of? Didn't you cay wool? It could be that.

Our Spot gets places on his skin. And the vet said to give him Benadryl to keep him comfortable. And he sleeps a lot when we do that but it gives his skin a chance to heal.

Also, what are you washing him with? We had to use baby shampoo for one of our dogs. She just had really sensitive skin.



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Good luck, NJN!!  We'll be looking for updates!



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Thanks HM. We really do love her but with DH unemployed can't afford to take her to A&M right now for extensive testing. We read articles that said it's perfectly okay to give dogs Benadryl and Prednisone but that because dogs systems are different than ours Benadryl is way less effective in dogs than it is in humans. They also don't recommend long term steroid therapy on dogs.

Her blanket is made of flannel. Very soft and very old. The edges are ragged. Basically the only way she will sleep is if she is in the bed with us. She does not like closed doors. A closed door is only okay if she is on the people side of the closed door. If we are in our bedroom and not asleep we have to leave the door open so she can roam or she will scratch at the door. If we shut the door with her in the room she lays right down and goes to sleep.

It's a pain washing our sheets. She drags dirt and mud in there sometimes. And fur. We have two dogs that sleep with us and the fur gets everywhere. So to keep from washing the sheets constantly we found this old flannel sheet we had. It's really soft. I make the bed every day and at night we lay the sheet down on top of everything. In the morning the sheet comes off and I make the bed. The bed stays clean a lot longer this way.

Topical Benadryl didn't help. The pills helped a little bit. Hydrocortisone spray seems to help more than topical Benadryl. We've tried all kinds of soaps and shampoos. The new one we bought is hypoallergenic. All the articles we read suggested baby products. Hypoallergenic baby products. I think if things start clearing up we will switch to hypoallergenic baby products. The product we got we purchased at PetCo. It's on the expensive side. But we wanted to see if worked. We are just going to keep applying the lotion and washing her bedding and towels in Dreft. If this works it will be the cheapest cure of all the ones we've tried so far. Damn frustrating dogs!

We're hoping that this works!

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Had a dog develop a heat rash of sorts. She would break out sort of like that. Especially in the Summer and in the Winter when the heat was always on.

Had to use a conditioning wash on her.

Another had a place on her back. About the middle of her shoulders.

It got bad.

After trying everything I finally used Bactine on her.

It didn't hurt her. And about a week later it was gone. I used it three times.

The only thing is, she was a white dog and where I used it, it turned her fur orange. A spot about the size of a half dollar. It stayed that way too. Even after it was healed and she was groomed regularly.



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My dog has constant dog eye sleepies. The house cleaner even cleaned his eyes this morning. Right now it is as if they weren't done. I now the dry air is an issue but any quick clean suggestions out there? I don't want to tough the sleepies myself. I use tissues but the sleepies are too dry.

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WE HAVE BACTINE! I think to see what this stuff does first though...

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WE HAVE BACTINE! I think to see what this stuff does first though...


 That helps with the eyes?  I am dog dumb



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My dog has constant dog eye sleepies. The house cleaner even cleaned his eyes this morning. Right now it is as if they weren't done. I now the dry air is an issue but any quick clean suggestions out there? I don't want to tough the sleepies myself. I use tissues but the sleepies are too dry.


Well. When the kids were little they would get sinus infections and it would back up and cause eye infections.

Eye boogers are gross.

The doc said to smear a very thin layer of Vaseline on their eyes after they went to sleep. It helped clean the off in the morning.

You can also use tear free baby shampoo and actually wash the dogs eyes.

I, too, was taught this little trick by a doctor.

It only takes about the amount of the size of an eraser, mix with water and lather up and rinse. It doesn't hurt cause it is tear free.

If it works with kids, it should work with dogs.



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WE HAVE BACTINE! I think to see what this stuff does first though...


 That helps with the eyes?  I am dog dumb


 No, not Bactine in the eyes!  But Lily has good advice.  A little tiny bit of Vaseline and some tear free shampoo sounds good.



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Be trying it tomorrow after a trip to the store.

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Target has baby wipes but made for dogs. We use those on the sleepy eye gunk. Now that I think of it, regular baby wipes would probably work just as well.

NJN I hope this works for you! It sounds like you have it figured out. We do the same thing with the sheet on top of the bed. Our dog is white and the comforter is brown. It took me about a month to figure out to do it, and it works great. We use baby shampoo on the dog - it's super cheap and it does the trick. It's 1.97 for baby shampoo compared to 9.99 for dog shampoo.

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Yes. And we don't have to use much Dreft. She doesn't really sleep on her bed. The big dog drags them together and sleeps on both of them. The smaller dogs hop up on the sofa during the day and sleep next to us or sleep on our bed at night. We only have to wash that top sheet in Dreft. And the towels we use to dry her when we bath her. We've been lotioning her through the day and she looks a lot better.

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