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FCC Approves ‘Net Neutrality’ Plan to Control Internet Access

 
 

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — Internet service providers like Comcast, Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile now must act in the “public interest” when providing a mobile connection to your home or phone, under rules approved Thursday by a divided Federal Communications Commission.

The plan, which puts the Internet in the same regulatory camp as the telephone and bans business practices that are “unjust or unreasonable,” represents the biggest regulatory shakeup to the industry in almost two decades. The goal is to prevent providers from slowing or blocking web traffic, or creating paid fast lanes on the Internet, said FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler.

The 3-2 vote was expected to trigger industry lawsuits that could take several years to resolve. Still, consumer advocates cheered the regulations as a victory for smaller Internet-based companies which feared they would have to pay “tolls” to move their content.

Net neutrality is the idea that websites or videos load at about the same speed. That means you won’t be more inclined to watch a particular show on Amazon Prime instead of on Netflix because Amazon has struck a deal with your service provider to load its data faster.

Opponents, including many congressional Republicans, said the FCC plan constitutes dangerous government overreach that would eventually drive up consumer costs and discourage industry investment.

Republican FCC Commissioners Mike O’Rielly and Ajit Pai, who voted against the plan, alleged that President Barack Obama unfairly used his influence to push through the regulations, calling the plan a “half-baked, illogical, internally inconsistent and indefensible document.”

Michael Powell, a former Republican FCC chairman who now runs the National Cable and Telecommunications Association, warned that consumers would almost immediately “bear the burden of new taxes and increased costs, and they will likely wait longer for faster and more innovative networks since investment will slow in the face of bureaucratic oversight.”

Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, said he would pursue industry-friendly legislation, although it was unlikely that Obama would sign such a bill. The FCC’s five commissioners are expected to testify before a Senate panel March 18.

“One way or another, I am committed to moving a legislative solution, preferably bipartisan, to stop monopoly-era phone regulations that harm Internet consumers and innovation,” Thune said in a statement this week.

It’s not true that consumers would see new taxes right away. The Internet Tax Freedom Act bans taxes on Internet access, although that bill expires in October. While Congress is expected to renew that legislation, it’s conceivable that states could eventually push Congress for the ability to tax Internet service now that it has been deemed a vital public utility.

“Read my lips. More Internet taxes are coming. It’s just a matter of when,” Commissioner Pai said.

For years, providers mostly agreed not to pick winners and losers among Web traffic because they didn’t want to encourage regulators to step in and because they said consumers demanded it. But that started to change around 2005, when YouTube came online and Netflix became increasingly popular. On-demand video became known as data hogs, and evidence began to surface that some providers were manipulating traffic without telling consumers.

By 2010, the FCC enacted open Internet rules, but the agency’s legal approach was eventually struck down. FCC officials are hoping to erase the legal ambiguity by no longer classifying the Internet as an “information service” but a “telecommunications service” subject to Title II of the 1934 Communications Act.

That would dramatically expand regulators’ power over the industry by requiring providers to act in the public’s interest and enabling the FCC to fine companies found to be employing “unreasonable” business practices.

The FCC says it won’t apply some sections of Title II, including price controls. That means rates charged to customers for Internet access won’t be subject to preapproval. But the law allows the government to investigate if consumers complain that costs are unfair.

Also at stake Thursday was Obama’s goal of helping local governments build their own fast, cheap broadband. Chattanooga, Tennessee, and Wilson, North Carolina, have filed petitions with the agency to help override state laws that restrict them from expanding their broadband service to neighboring towns.

The FCC approved these petitions, setting a precedent for other communities that might want to do the same.

Nineteen states place restrictions on municipal broadband networks, many with laws encouraged by cable and telephone companies. Advocates of those laws say they are designed to protect taxpayers from municipal projects that are expensive, can fail or may be unnecessary.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/26/fcc-approves-net-neutrality-plan-to-control-internet-access/

 



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And what other doors did this open? Wonder where this will lead?



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Brace yourself.

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How is this "Govt Takes Over the Internet"?

 

When Al Gore said he "facilitated development of the AARPANET" by pushing through funding for the first system to connect military and university computer systems,

he was repeatedly and emphatically criticized for "saying he invented the Internet".

 

So what message is this article trying to send? How is this in any way a bad thing?



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If you don't see how government interference in any thing is bad. You have to be on the kool aid.

This opens the door for all kinds of intrusions. We don't even know the magnitude of it.

And the internet was doing just fine with out the government being involved. You got what you paid for.

It really is that simple.

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The internet is not broken. Why are u so accepting about govt sticking their nose in every damn thing? Are thetre really so many people that cannot function unless govt controls every aspect of their lives?

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www.infowars.com/the-net-neutrality-scam/

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It's called free market. People pay for good internet and the sucky internet service fails.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

The internet is not broken. Why are u so accepting about govt sticking their nose in every damn thing? Are thetre really so many people that cannot function unless govt controls every aspect of their lives?


Right, it's not broken.

The plan this BLOCKS is the plan to greatly increase charges to providers of streaming video.

Would you like You Tube to have to pay a lot more for sending you videos? How about those movies and tv shows people watch using their (our) Internet connections? Would you like to start paying another $25 or $50 a month to be able to watch those things?

If that happened, would you then consider it broken?



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Wow. You are seriously deluded.

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The internet is not broken. Why are u so accepting about govt sticking their nose in every damn thing? Are thetre really so many people that cannot function unless govt controls every aspect of their lives?


Right, it's not broken.

The plan this BLOCKS is the plan to greatly increase charges to providers of streaming video.

Would you like You Tube to have to pay a lot more for sending you videos? How about those movies and tv shows people watch using their (our) Internet connections? Would you like to start paying another $25 or $50 a month to be able to watch those things?

If that happened, would you then consider it broken?


You don't understand how the free market works.

You get what you pay for. You want the faster, better, shinier version? Pay for it.

And those costs are going to go up anyway.

Plus, now the government has a way to regulate other parts of the internet.

Are you going to be so passive when you realize certain sites are no longer available?

There are other countries in which the government has gotten involved with the internet. Maybe we should pay really close attention to what is going on there.



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The internet has grown and thrived without government regulation in the last couple of decades. The government is notoriously bad for mucking things up.

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So what else will the government stick its dirty fingers in?

How far are we willing to let them go?

How much control do you want the government to have over your life?

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Apparently total control over everything because we are all too incapable of taking care of ourselves.

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So what else will the government stick its dirty fingers in?

How far are we willing to let them go?

How much control do you want the government to have over your life?


The "government" take half my income (or more), decides whether and how I can drive a car, tell me if my hedges are too close to the sidewalk, mandates that my sidewalks get shoveled and salted so they're clear so kids can walk to school. The Government also sends armed police to my house upon request, sends soldiers into war zones to try to keep all of use safe from those who want us all dead, and maintains a big Navy to protect shipping so we can import and export goods. 

The Government regulates the way the drugs I sell are made and promoted and distributed, and regulated the pharmacy where I sometimes shop.

The Government regulates the production and distribution of most of the food we find in our grocery stores.

The Government paid for the AARPANET, which then morphed into the Internet we all seem to use.

The Government USED TO limit advertising on children's television shows to 12 minutes per half-hour. (Then they took that limit away, and the Saturday Morning Cartoons turned into ...

 

are you sitting down???

 

100% ADVERTISING !!! The cartoon shows then started to feature toys and characters that were ALL FOR SALE in toy stores.

30 minutes per half hour of COMMERCIALS. (Guess who got THAT change made...)

 

What do we do or use in our lives that's NOT regulated by the Government in some way?

Sleep? Have you seen those "do not remove" tags on pillows and mattresses?

Marriage? Right. Discuss that with Squeakers (if you can find her).

 

I know one thing ... The Government did NOT help me get my job. KEEPING my job, however ... Everything I say or write is subject to FDA review, and possible sanctions.

 

 



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So what are you saying? You are opposed to government invasion of our lives or all for it?

The problem started way back the first time some one said "it doesn't affect me" and then followed it with "they are already doing it anyway".



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So what are you saying? You are opposed to government invasion of our lives or all for it?

The problem started way back the first time some one said "it doesn't affect me" and then followed it with "they are already doing it anyway".


I'm saying some greedy businessmen in a regulated industry were getting ready to rip us off, and now the FCC seems to be stopping them. 

And frankly, I'm kind of surprised that the Republicans are allowing this to be blocked, since they (you?) generally strongly favor helping the very wealthy and very greedy to rip off those of us who are NOT in the top 1%.

 



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Yes, let's block free market. Let's regulate everything. Make everything the same.

This is more about getting a foot in the door for the government.

I'm telling you, this is just the beginning of the government invasion.

No one is going to like where this leads.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

So what are you saying? You are opposed to government invasion of our lives or all for it?

The problem started way back the first time some one said "it doesn't affect me" and then followed it with "they are already doing it anyway".


 So, anarchy would be preferable?

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flan327 wrote:
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So what are you saying? You are opposed to government invasion of our lives or all for it?

The problem started way back the first time some one said "it doesn't affect me" and then followed it with "they are already doing it anyway".


 So, anarchy would be preferable?

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 Now, that's ridiculous and you know it - so much hyperbole.  The government in this country is supposed to have a limited role, not stick its fingers in everything.



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Lily's spiel gets old, imho.

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flan327 wrote:

Lily's spiel gets old, imho.

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 So does rolling over to every government regulation they can think of.



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People don't get it. They wont until it directly effects them. And then they will wonder why no one tried to stop it.

There is a difference between keeping order and controlling everything.



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People don't get it. They wont until it directly effects them. And then they will wonder why no one tried to stop it.

There is a difference between keeping order and controlling everything.


If your cable TV bill suddenly went up by $75 or $100 a month because the internet provides "can" charge a lot more for high speed, intense applications like streaming video,

would that affect you?

 

Imagine your electric bill going up by $400 per month, just because the rates got unregulated.

Don't think for a second that the greedy b@stards who run your (and my) electric utility wouldn't do that to us.

 

 



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People don't get it. They wont until it directly effects them. And then they will wonder why no one tried to stop it.

There is a difference between keeping order and controlling everything.


If your cable TV bill suddenly went up by $75 or $100 a month because the internet provides "can" charge a lot more for high speed, intense applications like streaming video,

would that affect you?

 

Imagine your electric bill going up by $400 per month, just because the rates got unregulated.

Don't think for a second that the greedy b@stards who run your (and my) electric utility wouldn't do that to us.

 

 


 This does happen - and then you threaten to cancel or you change providers. 



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Free market works.

Do you not understand that you pay for what you get?

If you want better, pay for it.

That is not a bad thing.

And you still haven't answered the other questions.

Where else is this going to lead? What other doors has this opened?

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