TOTALLY GEEKED!

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Spain to Germany flight

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

I just read that, too. I hope they can figure out what happened.

Soon. cry

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes. Sounds pretty fishy.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Oh goodness!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

What's going on? I haven't seen any news today.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

lilyofcourse wrote:
What's going on? I haven't seen any news today.

The flight that crashed into the french alps, Lily.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I guess I have missed this. When did this happen?

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Yesterday.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I had not heard this. Haven't caught the news. Been busy.

That's crazy though.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Google it?

flan

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

They are reporting that the co-pilot crashed the planes on purpose. cry

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

And locked the pilot out of the c0ckpit.

flan

-- Edited by flan327 on Thursday 26th of March 2015 08:12:29 AM

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

That sick bastard. I hope he's burning in hell! furious

Those poor people. cry cry cry

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Fort Worth Mom wrote:
That sick bastard. I hope he's burning in hell!
Those poor people.

And several teens were aboard.

flan

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

flan327 wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
That sick bastard. I hope he's burning in hell!
Those poor people.
And several teens were aboard.
flan

And it sounds like the people knew what was happening. They heard screaming on the recording. cry

How awful.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Fort Worth Mom wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
That sick bastard. I hope he's burning in hell!
Those poor people.
And several teens were aboard.
flan
And it sounds like the people knew what was happening. They heard screaming on the recording.
How awful.

How long did it take them to crash?

flan

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

flan327 wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
That sick bastard. I hope he's burning in hell!
Those poor people.
And several teens were aboard.
flan
And it sounds like the people knew what was happening. They heard screaming on the recording.
How awful.
How long did it take them to crash?
flan

It took a while. I haven't heard an exact number of minutes, yet.

Tinydancer · Guru

At least 8 minutes for the descent before they crashed. No word on how long the pilot was trying to break the c*ckpit door down before the descent started.

Ilumine · Regular

They only heard screams in the last seconds before the crash...as it finally became apparent that they were going to hit the ground. The descent was gradual enough to NOT drop the airmasks.

Something that makes this even more suspicious to me, since most humans know that an airmask drop means that there is a problem and without an announcement before or after said airmask drop, they would immediately think hijacking. At least I would.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Thanks, Ilumine. I can't bear to read all the details.

flan

burns07 · Guru

they appear to have discovered the " how "--will probably prove much more difficult to understand the " why "

if you want to kill yourself, fine but doesn't give you the right to terminate a bunch of innocents along with you

what a coward.........

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

burns07 wrote:
they appear to have discovered the " how "--will probably prove much more difficult to understand the " why "

if you want to kill yourself, fine but doesn't give you the right to terminate a bunch of innocents along with you

what a coward.........

I agree. If you want to die, have at it. But don't take 149 people with you.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

But doesn't a terrorist group usually brag about their mission?

flan

FNW · Guru

Horrible. Makes me glad we're not taking a vacation this year.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FNW wrote:
Horrible. Makes me glad we're not taking a vacation this year.

We are. I'm going to stock up on the mini wine bottles...

flan

FNW · Guru

Try to bump up to first class. Free booze.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FNW wrote:
Try to bump up to first class. Free booze.

We can barely afford coach, but I would LOVE to fly first class once in my life!!!

(We're going to Kauai.)

flan

FNW · Guru

I flew 1st class a lot when I would visit my family in California. I'd book coach then call and use frequent flyer miles to upgrade. I cashed in AMEX miles and took my father to Cali 1st class so we could go to his brother's funeral. My father hates to fly but enjoyed it that time. He always thought it was ridiculous that I would upgrade...until then.

burns07 · Guru

first class is definitely the way to go for international / long flights--otherwise, coach will do

FNW · Guru

If nothing else I try to pay a little more to get seats with more leg room.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FNW wrote:
If nothing else I try to pay a little more to get seats with more leg room.

Amen! I get SO claustrophobic.

(Sorry for the hijack...)

flan

Blankie · Guru

flan327 wrote:
FNW wrote:
If nothing else I try to pay a little more to get seats with more leg room.
Amen! I get SO claustrophobic.
(Sorry for the hijack...)
flan

So it was YOU who hijacked the plane, flan? biggrin

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Blankie wrote:
flan327 wrote:
FNW wrote:
If nothing else I try to pay a little more to get seats with more leg room.
Amen! I get SO claustrophobic.
(Sorry for the hijack...)
flan
So it was YOU who hijacked the plane, flan?

You're a lil devil today, aren't you???

flan

Blankie · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Blankie wrote:
flan327 wrote:
FNW wrote:
If nothing else I try to pay a little more to get seats with more leg room.
Amen! I get SO claustrophobic.
(Sorry for the hijack...)
flan
So it was YOU who hijacked the plane, flan?
You're a lil devil today, aren't you???
flan

Aw c'mon, I couldn't let that one go. You walked right into it.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Ok this is a total fail on the part of Eurocontrol and the airliner. This particular plane is small enough that there is no navigator sitting in the c o c k pit with the two pilots, otherwise there would have been someone else there when the pilot stepped out. Also, The locks on the doors are cipher locks and a warning system should have auto unlocked it, the co pilot must have blocked that.

Most airlines that fly in FAA air space, when there is no third person with the pilots, have a flight attendant stand in the c o c k pit when a pilot has to pee or something. This actually may be an FAA rule, not sure of that.

ladyloonatic · Regular

I heard someone say, I think it was Capt. Sullenburg ( or whatever his name is) say that many European airlines don't have the two-people in the c0ckpit at all times protocol, so it wasn't that it was small plane. He also commented on the locks, the pilot can disable the safety mechanism.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Ok this is a total fail on the part of Eurocontrol and the airliner. This particular plane is small enough that there is no navigator sitting in the c o c k pit with the two pilots, otherwise there would have been someone else there when the pilot stepped out. Also, The locks on the doors are cipher locks and a warning system should have auto unlocked it, the co pilot must have blocked that.

Most airlines that fly in FAA air space, when there is no third person with the pilots, have a flight attendant stand in the c o c k pit when a pilot has to pee or something. This actually may be an FAA rule, not sure of that.

The U.S. is one of only a few countries that has the rule about never leaving just one person in the c0ckpit. They are saying now that more countries and airlines will probably adopt it.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Mellow Momma wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Ok this is a total fail on the part of Eurocontrol and the airliner. This particular plane is small enough that there is no navigator sitting in the c o c k pit with the two pilots, otherwise there would have been someone else there when the pilot stepped out. Also, The locks on the doors are cipher locks and a warning system should have auto unlocked it, the co pilot must have blocked that.

Most airlines that fly in FAA air space, when there is no third person with the pilots, have a flight attendant stand in the c o c k pit when a pilot has to pee or something. This actually may be an FAA rule, not sure of that.
The U.S. is one of only a few countries that has the rule about never leaving just one person in the c0ckpit. They are saying now that more countries and airlines will probably adopt it.

If I read it correctly we only implemented this after 9/11.

So terrible.

Blankie · Guru

So now the French prosecutor Brice Robin is saying it was deliberate sabotage of the aircraft by the co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz. Proven by a whole set of actions recorded on the ****pit voice recorder, that can only be construed as deliberate.

How horrifying.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

burns07 wrote:

first class is definitely the way to go for international / long flights--otherwise, coach will do

I think the First Class section crashed too.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

burns07 wrote:
they appear to have discovered the " how "--will probably prove much more difficult to understand the " why "

if you want to kill yourself, fine but doesn't give you the right to terminate a bunch of innocents along with you

what a coward.........

Of course nobody has a "right". YOu don't have a right to shoot up a school or maim or kill people, but that doesn't stop it from happening.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
burns07 wrote:

first class is definitely the way to go for international / long flights--otherwise, coach will do
I think the First Class section crashed too.

No, we were talking about comfort by that point, silly woman!

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

This is not a funny topic. 149 innocent people died and knew they were dying. It must have been terrifying.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
But doesn't a terrorist group usually brag about their mission?

flan

Why does a terrorist have to be part of a group?

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lexxy wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Ok this is a total fail on the part of Eurocontrol and the airliner. This particular plane is small enough that there is no navigator sitting in the c o c k pit with the two pilots, otherwise there would have been someone else there when the pilot stepped out. Also, The locks on the doors are cipher locks and a warning system should have auto unlocked it, the co pilot must have blocked that.

Most airlines that fly in FAA air space, when there is no third person with the pilots, have a flight attendant stand in the c o c k pit when a pilot has to pee or something. This actually may be an FAA rule, not sure of that.
The U.S. is one of only a few countries that has the rule about never leaving just one person in the c0ckpit. They are saying now that more countries and airlines will probably adopt it.
If I read it correctly we only implemented this after 9/11.
So terrible.

We implemented it after 9/11 because that's when we made the c0ckpit doors secure.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
But doesn't a terrorist group usually brag about their mission?

flan
Why does a terrorist have to be part of a group?

Good point.

Blankie · Guru

They're starting to analyze Lubitz, the co-pilot who took the plane down. One report says he was fine, acquaintances called him happy and engaged to be married. Another report says he had a career time gap because of depression.

I'm sure we'll have all sorts of media delving into his mental health and his motives, and possible terrorist connections.

If they find he has terrorist connections, it wouldn't surprise me. A simple suicide sounds a little unlikely. That's a bizarre way to kill yourself, by taking down 149 others. There are also much less painful ways to kill yourself.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
But doesn't a terrorist group usually brag about their mission?

flan
Why does a terrorist have to be part of a group?
Good point.

They don't. But it's almost strangely relieving to know that it isn't ISIS or Al Quida.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

He was missing and out of service for 11 months. Where was he? And what was said by him in the cc k pit?

Blankie · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
But doesn't a terrorist group usually brag about their mission?

flan
Why does a terrorist have to be part of a group?
Good point.
They don't. But it's almost strangely relieving to know that it isn't ISIS or Al Quida.

We don't know that yet. Lubitz apparently acted alone, but his motives and connections are not clear yet.