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Boy Scouts' New York Chapter Challenges Ban On Gay Adults By Hiring Eagle Scout Pascal Tessier As Camp Counselor

 

 

Posted: 04/02/2015 4:30 pm EDT Updated: 04/02/2015 11:59 pm EDT

 

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Chevy Chase, DC - FEB 10: Pascal Tessier gets congratulations from fellow troop members Matthew Huerta(L) and Michael Fine (right) after he received his Eagle scout badge tonight at his weekly troop meeting, at the All Saints Church in Chevy Chase, February 10, 2014. Tessier will be one of the first openly gay Eagle scouts. In the past he would have been asked to leave or be booted from scouting but BSA ruled that it would accept gay scouts but not gay scout leaders. (Photo by Evelyn Hockstein/ | The Washington Post via Getty Images
 
 
 

In an unprecedented move, the Boy Scouts of America's New York chapter has hired an openly gay Eagle Scout as a summer camp leader.

The decision to hire Pascal Tessier, an 18-year-old Eagle Scout from Maryland, as a counselor at the Ten Mile River Scout Camp in upstate New York is a direct challenge to the Boy Scouts' existing ban on openly gay adult participants, the Associated Press is reporting.

Board member Richard G. Mason praised Tessier, who has been an outspoken advocate for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) issues, as an "exemplary candidate" for the counselor role, and said New York members "did not want our policy of non-discrimination to be affected by the national policy" in an email statement sent to The Huffington Post.

"New York City and New York State law clearly prohibit employers from excluding qualified men and women from employment based on sexual orientation," he noted, and said he and other board members welcomed Tessier and "look forward to his participation in our camp program."

Among those to applaud the move was Scouts for Equality's Executive Director Zach Wahls, who called Tessier's hiring "a watershed moment."

"As the controversy swirling in Indiana, Arkansas, and elsewhere demonstrates, Americans are no longer willing to tolerate discrimination based on sexual orientation," Wahls said in a statement. "We are proud to see such an important Boy Scout council standing up for the full inclusion of gay members and affirming that the values and principles of scouting are important to all people regardless of sexual orientation or age."

Echoing those sentiments was Human Rights Campaign President Chad Griffin, who called it "a historic day for the Boy Scouts of America -- and for the courageous and talented young man, Pascal Tessier, who seeks only to work for the organization that he loves."

It isn't the first time that Tessier has made history. In 2014, he became the first out Eagle Scout to be approved after the Boy Scouts lifted its ban on gay youth participants.

"Even if I had been kicked out along the way, I wouldn't have changed anything," he told the AP at the time. "The whole experience was something worth having, not only for myself but also for all the other people involved -- and for all the people it affects."

If his hiring is challenged at the national level, however, Tessier is already represented by lawyer David Boies, BuzzFeed reported. Boies told reporter Chris Geidner that the formal BSA policy is "obviously against the law in a number of states, including New York."

"While I don’t want to be overly optimistic, I think this signals at least the end of this type of discrimination on a national level," he is quoted as saying.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/02/pascal-tessier-gay-boy-scout_n_6995286.html

 



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OK? When my sons were younger, I was taking them to a church youth group. And, there was a kid who was claiming to be gay or confused or whatever. And, sorry, I didn't think that my kids needed to be exposed to those issues at that tender age so I took them out of that youth group. So, yeah, people can do what they want to do, but that doesn't mean you have to shove sexual issues into kids faces at a young age. Our local librarian was gay. Everyone knew it. But, we didn't talk about it ad nauseum. It was just something everyone accepted. But, it wasn't like "oh the GAY librarian'. It was just the Librarian. Period.

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I'm not gay, but I am a librarian!

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As long as he doesn't talk about sex who cares? But that goes for the straight leaders too. Why can't we just be people and keep out personal lives personal?

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As long as he doesn't talk about sex who cares? But that goes for the straight leaders too. Why can't we just be people and keep out personal lives personal?


  Well, but they aren't.  He is announced as an OPENLY GAY boyscout leader.  Why?  For what purpose?   The purpose of course is to continue to support the gay agenda.  A boy scout leader should simply be a Boy Scout leader WITHOUT sexuality being introduced into it one way or the other. 



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The Boy Scouts have come under criticism in the past for discriminating. I'm guessing this is their way of making a statement.

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Good for them. Sooo, yeah, not going to put my sons with some leader promoting his own agenda.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Good for them. Sooo, yeah, not going to put my sons with some leader promoting his own agenda.


And that, of course, is your choice.

But maybe some boys will grow up thinking there is nothing wrong with being gay!

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You are missing the point flan. We don't need to sexualize it one way or the other.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

You are missing the point flan. We don't need to sexualize it one way or the other.


 There is no evidence that this scout leader IS sexualizing it. When I see "openly gay" all that means to me is that the person is not hiding his sexuality, much the way I do not hide my heterosexuality. He may be seen in public with his partner on a date, he may refer to his partner naturally in conversation. It doesn't mean he is shoving it in anyone's face - he just is not trying to hide it. Does that make sense? 

I saw no reference in the OP that this leader is discussing his sexuality with the kids at all. Much like a hetero would not -- other than in naturally occurring comversation. Like if they are doing a badge on money and banking and the Scout Leader's partner manages a bank, he may refer to his partner or schedule a visit at his partner's bank.

Openly gay doesn't mean they are throwing it in your face. I know many, many openly gay people who do not mention it at all, even to me, in conversation unless it's part of the conversation about home/family. 



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