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Q. Middle-Aged and Peer-Pressured: The other night, my husband and I were having drinks with some friends, when the subject of drugs came up. I drink alcohol, but never really tried other drugs. My husband is the same. Our friends have experimented more widely. One of them, a woman in her 50s, regularly goes on vision quests that involve peyote and smokes pot daily. Another, a medical professional, smokes pot and occasionally uses ecstasy. My husband is now interested in trying ecstasy. Our friend the medical professional says he can get us the “good stuff,” not cut with dangerous drugs. Our friends, as a group, decided it would be good for my husband and me to do the drug together, and with his birthday coming up, offered to get us some, gratis. I really don’t like the idea of being on drugs—I’m not comfortable with the idea of being “altered” and not in control of what I do or say. My husband really wants me to do this with him, and says we should get a hotel room, board the dog for the weekend, and bond. Am I being a stick in the mud by saying no?

A: I am a similar stick in the mud over altered consciousness. I’m too worried about my consciousness altering on its own and being unable to remember where I put the keys to want to explore my oneness with the universe then being forever unable to find my keys. I’m sure thousands of people drop “the good stuff” and have a great time. But I get fixated on the stories of kids who take pills they didn’t get from the CVS, then end up in intensive care or the morgue. So count me out. However, I can understand your husband wanting to do this. But if you don’t, you have to say no. So if he wants to have a birthday “trip” with his friends, I don’t think you should try to stop him. But if he does, take your own trip to the beach and become one with a Mai Tai.

 

 



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Real friends don't pull that peer pressure crap.

Their friends decided they should do drugs? No. Their friends don't get to make that decision.

I disagree with Abby. She shouldn't just let her husband go do drugs. Would she support her husband doing any illegal activity?

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Part of the reason to do drugs is to remove inhibitions.

Could those small group drug parties turn into free love parties?

Would she be okay with her husband screwing someone at one of these parties?



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Meh, if he wants to why not? He's not hurting anybody unless he's an ass and insists his wife joins him.

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Real friends don't pull that peer pressure crap.

Their friends decided they should do drugs? No. Their friends don't get to make that decision.

I disagree with Abby. She shouldn't just let her husband go do drugs. Would she support her husband doing any illegal activity?


Chef is right on target with this. 



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I don't think the friends are really doing any "pressuring". The LW doesn't even say that.

It sounds more like the husband is interested in trying it and he is the one pressuring her.

I guess I've never had much use for drugs so I don't get the temptation. Seems like a slippery slope to addiction--plus the fact that it's illegal.

Will he, or they, "try" it once and then be satisfied? Or will this turn into a regular thing?

We have no way of knowing at this point--but what we can say for certain is that if they never try it, then it will never become a regular thing.

I'd lose a great deal of respect for my spouse if she wanted to start down that path all of a sudden.

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Meh, if he wants to why not? He's not hurting anybody unless he's an ass and insists his wife joins him.


 Anyone offering the drug free is a dealer and trying to get you to want to come back and get more.  You fall into that trap and you start using drugs made in a lab in a basement laced with who knows what.  That is just stupid.



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Omg. People have bad reactions and DIE from ectasy!

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It's quite common for middle aged people to have been using recreationally since they were teens.

Husband probably used back in the day and misses it.



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Anyone offering the drug free is a dealer and trying to get you to want to come back and get more.
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or a narc--peer pressure in general and about drugs in particular is pure BS--that sort of nonsense went out in grade school--lord, grow up

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

Meh, if he wants to why not? He's not hurting anybody unless he's an ass and insists his wife joins him.


Because it could potentially start him down a bad path in life?  Yeah, there are people that can use recreationally and some who can't.  He may be the Can't.  Why play with fire? 



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Oh and don't forget about what will happen to your family if you found to be doing illecit drugs; job loss, potential for losing your kids to the DCYS, your marriage, all your savings, reputation, etc. Stupid thought.

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Exactly. Too much to risk. Why?

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Do druggies generally think they'll never get caught, never face consequences? If so, are they right?

 



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Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.

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Illegal. Broken law. Potential to lose your job.

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Too risky. I would not be OK with my husband doing this.

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Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.


Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".  



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These middle-aged people are nuts for even thinking of trying the drugs. Good grief, they are of the age of dropping over dead from a heart attack. If either has an unknown heart condition, bye bye.
Peers that do drugs... now isn't that a nice idea. (sarcasm)

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Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.


Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".  


 Says the guy who speeds all the time.



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Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.


Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".  


 Says the guy who speeds all the time.


????  First of all, I don't know where you get that from.  I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.

Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?   



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You probably won't lose your job over a speeding ticket. But illegal drugs? Dumb dumb dumb.

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You probably won't lose your job over a speeding ticket. But illegal drugs? Dumb dumb dumb.


Heck, you could even lose professional certification depending on what your profession is.  



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Of course.

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huskerbb wrote:
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Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.


Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".  


 Says the guy who speeds all the time.


????  First of all, I don't know where you get that from.  I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.

Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?   


 No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things.  Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me.  But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.  



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Fine. Explain that to your boss or the Police.

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Oh, and speeding has the risk of a car accident. Getting high once in a controlled environment very little risk.

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Bonny22Pye wrote:
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Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.


Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".  


 Says the guy who speeds all the time.


????  First of all, I don't know where you get that from.  I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.

Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?   


 No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things.  Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me.  But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.  


And doing illegal things is irresponsible.

Wouldn't you say that failure to wear your seat belt is irresponsible?  Most would. 

 

Also, we are NOT talking pot as the letter plainly states.  



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Because ectasy is quality controlled.

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

Oh, and speeding has the risk of a car accident. Getting high once in a controlled environment very little risk.


The latter would still have more risk than the former.  



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Because ectasy is quality controlled.


 Depends on your chemist!



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huskerbb wrote:
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Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.


Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".  


 Says the guy who speeds all the time.


????  First of all, I don't know where you get that from.  I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.

Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?   


 No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things.  Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me.  But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.  


And doing illegal things is irresponsible.

Wouldn't you say that failure to wear your seat belt is irresponsible?  Most would. 

 

Also, we are NOT talking pot as the letter plainly states.  


 If I remember correctly you said you never wear your seat belt. evileyesmile



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If you want to take a chance and break the law and potentially lose everything you have worked for in life, then yes, you are adult, that's up to you. ANd, if you want to trust your friend that they know "good" ecstasy from bad, then fine. But, if you have a wife and family, then it isn't just about what YOU want to do. So, will he get caught? Probably not. But, that might be the week they do a random drug test at work. Or, he might be the one who becomes addicted to it, etc. And, sorry, if my husband wants to start using illegal drugs, he can go do that by himself and not married to me and it is something I would want no part of.

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lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
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huskerbb wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:

Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.


Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".  


 Says the guy who speeds all the time.


????  First of all, I don't know where you get that from.  I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.

Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?   


 No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things.  Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me.  But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.  


And doing illegal things is irresponsible.

Wouldn't you say that failure to wear your seat belt is irresponsible?  Most would. 

 

Also, we are NOT talking pot as the letter plainly states.  


 If I remember correctly you said you never wear your seat belt. evileyesmile


I don't.  Do you consider that to be responsible? 

 

I didn't think so.  I win.   



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I don't recall anyone every going to jail or losing a job due to seatbelt laws.

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And, as for the "medical professional" friend. Wow.

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Yeah - the bar isn't going to care if I get a seatbelt or speeding ticket, but they are seriously going to question my judgment and ability to help others make decisions when I'm using drugs. And a drug conviction could easily lead to disbarment.

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Bonny22Pye wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:

Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.


Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".  


 Says the guy who speeds all the time.


????  First of all, I don't know where you get that from.  I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.

Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?   


 No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things.  Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me.  But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.  


And doing illegal things is irresponsible.

Wouldn't you say that failure to wear your seat belt is irresponsible?  Most would. 

 

Also, we are NOT talking pot as the letter plainly states.  


 If I remember correctly you said you never wear your seat belt. evileyesmile


I don't.  Do you consider that to be responsible? 

 

I didn't think so.  I win.   


 What are you "winning"? 

Even with the smileysdisbelief



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It was a joke people.

Teasing.

I was told if I put the smileys it would convey the humor better.

Lighten up people.

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Haven't any of you on this board tried some form of illegal drug at some point? College anyone?

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Haven't any of you on this board tried some form of illegal drug at some point? College anyone?


I was invisible in college, so no.

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Haven't any of you on this board tried some form of illegal drug at some point? College anyone?


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Haven't any of you on this board tried some form of illegal drug at some point? College anyone?


 I enjoyed the hell out of many illegal drugs back in the day.

Ecstasy was originally used in couples counceling to help couples communicate better.  That was before the government decided to make it illegal.  It might actually help their marriage.

 



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Well....I will tell you my one big illicit drug moment.. I was 22 at the Key Club for a private party and a famous boy bander and another sit com star were there. My friend and I tried coke with them. I personally hated it. But it was an overall fun and entertaining night. Boy Bander was much nicer than sit com star.

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I know what alcohol does to me. I think I would be afraid to try an illegal drug, though.

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I know what alcohol does to me. I think I would be afraid to try an illegal drug, though.

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I know what alcohol does to me. I think I would be afraid to try an illegal drug, though.

flan


 If you don't like being drunk you'd probably hate being high.


Oh, I enjoy a few drinks...not being sh1t-faced drunk, though.

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Haven't any of you on this board tried some form of illegal drug at some point? College anyone?


 I had a brand new baby when I was in college. So nope. Not me either. 

I struggled to get her to daycare and get to class and get to work - so I quit going to class so I could work more. Wasn't going to spend my hard earned money on drugs when I had to pay the rent. Plus, you know, I was a mom and was responsible for her. 



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Haven't any of you on this board tried some form of illegal drug at some point? College anyone?


No, never had desire to.  I hate taking medicine of any kind so it never appealed to me. 



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Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.


Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".  


 Says the guy who speeds all the time.


????  First of all, I don't know where you get that from.  I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.

Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?   


 No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things.  Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me.  But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.  


And doing illegal things is irresponsible.

Wouldn't you say that failure to wear your seat belt is irresponsible?  Most would. 

 

Also, we are NOT talking pot as the letter plainly states.  


 If I remember correctly you said you never wear your seat belt. evileyesmile


I don't.  Do you consider that to be responsible? 

 

I didn't think so.  I win.   


 What are you "winning"? 

Even with the smileysdisbelief


 Because you've proven the very point that I was making that you seem to be so against.



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