Q. Middle-Aged and Peer-Pressured: The other night, my husband and I were having drinks with some friends, when the subject of drugs came up. I drink alcohol, but never really tried other drugs. My husband is the same. Our friends have experimented more widely. One of them, a woman in her 50s, regularly goes on vision quests that involve peyote and smokes pot daily. Another, a medical professional, smokes pot and occasionally uses ecstasy. My husband is now interested in trying ecstasy. Our friend the medical professional says he can get us the “good stuff,” not cut with dangerous drugs. Our friends, as a group, decided it would be good for my husband and me to do the drug together, and with his birthday coming up, offered to get us some, gratis. I really don’t like the idea of being on drugs—I’m not comfortable with the idea of being “altered” and not in control of what I do or say. My husband really wants me to do this with him, and says we should get a hotel room, board the dog for the weekend, and bond. Am I being a stick in the mud by saying no?
A: I am a similar stick in the mud over altered consciousness. I’m too worried about my consciousness altering on its own and being unable to remember where I put the keys to want to explore my oneness with the universe then being forever unable to find my keys. I’m sure thousands of people drop “the good stuff” and have a great time. But I get fixated on the stories of kids who take pills they didn’t get from the CVS, then end up in intensive care or the morgue. So count me out. However, I can understand your husband wanting to do this. But if you don’t, you have to say no. So if he wants to have a birthday “trip” with his friends, I don’t think you should try to stop him. But if he does, take your own trip to the beach and become one with a Mai Tai.
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Meh, if he wants to why not? He's not hurting anybody unless he's an ass and insists his wife joins him.
Anyone offering the drug free is a dealer and trying to get you to want to come back and get more. You fall into that trap and you start using drugs made in a lab in a basement laced with who knows what. That is just stupid.
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It's quite common for middle aged people to have been using recreationally since they were teens.
Husband probably used back in the day and misses it.
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Anyone offering the drug free is a dealer and trying to get you to want to come back and get more.
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or a narc--peer pressure in general and about drugs in particular is pure BS--that sort of nonsense went out in grade school--lord, grow up
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Meh, if he wants to why not? He's not hurting anybody unless he's an ass and insists his wife joins him.
Because it could potentially start him down a bad path in life? Yeah, there are people that can use recreationally and some who can't. He may be the Can't. Why play with fire?
Oh and don't forget about what will happen to your family if you found to be doing illecit drugs; job loss, potential for losing your kids to the DCYS, your marriage, all your savings, reputation, etc. Stupid thought.
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Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug.
These middle-aged people are nuts for even thinking of trying the drugs. Good grief, they are of the age of dropping over dead from a heart attack. If either has an unknown heart condition, bye bye.
Peers that do drugs... now isn't that a nice idea. (sarcasm)
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I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.
Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".
Says the guy who speeds all the time.
???? First of all, I don't know where you get that from. I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.
Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?
No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things. Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me. But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.
Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.
Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".
Says the guy who speeds all the time.
???? First of all, I don't know where you get that from. I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.
Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?
No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things. Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me. But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.
And doing illegal things is irresponsible.
Wouldn't you say that failure to wear your seat belt is irresponsible? Most would.
Also, we are NOT talking pot as the letter plainly states.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.
Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".
Says the guy who speeds all the time.
???? First of all, I don't know where you get that from. I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.
Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?
No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things. Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me. But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.
And doing illegal things is irresponsible.
Wouldn't you say that failure to wear your seat belt is irresponsible? Most would.
Also, we are NOT talking pot as the letter plainly states.
If I remember correctly you said you never wear your seat belt.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
If you want to take a chance and break the law and potentially lose everything you have worked for in life, then yes, you are adult, that's up to you. ANd, if you want to trust your friend that they know "good" ecstasy from bad, then fine. But, if you have a wife and family, then it isn't just about what YOU want to do. So, will he get caught? Probably not. But, that might be the week they do a random drug test at work. Or, he might be the one who becomes addicted to it, etc. And, sorry, if my husband wants to start using illegal drugs, he can go do that by himself and not married to me and it is something I would want no part of.
Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.
Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".
Says the guy who speeds all the time.
???? First of all, I don't know where you get that from. I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.
Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?
No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things. Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me. But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.
And doing illegal things is irresponsible.
Wouldn't you say that failure to wear your seat belt is irresponsible? Most would.
Also, we are NOT talking pot as the letter plainly states.
If I remember correctly you said you never wear your seat belt.
I don't. Do you consider that to be responsible?
I didn't think so. I win.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Yeah - the bar isn't going to care if I get a seatbelt or speeding ticket, but they are seriously going to question my judgment and ability to help others make decisions when I'm using drugs. And a drug conviction could easily lead to disbarment.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.
Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".
Says the guy who speeds all the time.
???? First of all, I don't know where you get that from. I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.
Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?
No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things. Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me. But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.
And doing illegal things is irresponsible.
Wouldn't you say that failure to wear your seat belt is irresponsible? Most would.
Also, we are NOT talking pot as the letter plainly states.
If I remember correctly you said you never wear your seat belt.
I don't. Do you consider that to be responsible?
I didn't think so. I win.
What are you "winning"?
Even with the smileys
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
I was told if I put the smileys it would convey the humor better.
Lighten up people.
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Haven't any of you on this board tried some form of illegal drug at some point? College anyone?
I enjoyed the hell out of many illegal drugs back in the day.
Ecstasy was originally used in couples counceling to help couples communicate better. That was before the government decided to make it illegal. It might actually help their marriage.
Well....I will tell you my one big illicit drug moment.. I was 22 at the Key Club for a private party and a famous boy bander and another sit com star were there. My friend and I tried coke with them. I personally hated it. But it was an overall fun and entertaining night. Boy Bander was much nicer than sit com star.
Haven't any of you on this board tried some form of illegal drug at some point? College anyone?
I had a brand new baby when I was in college. So nope. Not me either.
I struggled to get her to daycare and get to class and get to work - so I quit going to class so I could work more. Wasn't going to spend my hard earned money on drugs when I had to pay the rent. Plus, you know, I was a mom and was responsible for her.
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !
Not all people who try drugs are addicts. Just like not all people who drink are alcoholics. I could care less if adults do them responsibly.
Doing ILLEGAL things is NOT "responsible".
Says the guy who speeds all the time.
???? First of all, I don't know where you get that from. I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over 15 years.
Second--are you saying that speeding is responsible?
No, I'm saying everybody (well almost) does some illegal things. Trying a drug once just isnt a big deal to me. But, as context, I grew up in the pot capital of the country.
And doing illegal things is irresponsible.
Wouldn't you say that failure to wear your seat belt is irresponsible? Most would.
Also, we are NOT talking pot as the letter plainly states.
If I remember correctly you said you never wear your seat belt.
I don't. Do you consider that to be responsible?
I didn't think so. I win.
What are you "winning"?
Even with the smileys
Because you've proven the very point that I was making that you seem to be so against.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.