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Raisin farmer challenging USDA’s $700G fine before Supreme Court

By Kyle Rothenberg

Published April 22, 2015

| FoxNews.com

A California farmer is fighting the government to keep the fruits of his labor. 

Raisin farmer Marvin Horne is heading to the U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday in a bid to stop the federal government from demanding he hand over his dried fruit crop -- almost half of it -- without “just compensation.” He plans to argue that a nearly 80-year-old federal law designed to keep prices steady by regulating supply violating his Fifth Amendment right to just compensation for a taking by the government. 

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, “handlers” of raisins, who package the crop, must hand over a portion of their yield each year. But “producers,” who actually grow the raisins, are not penalized.

In 2000, Horne was a “handler” and then tried to become a “producer.” Several years later, the USDA told Horne he still needed to hand over 47 percent of his sun-kissed grapes to the government. Horne refused — and the agency hit him with $700,000 in fines and penalties.

The law requiring all raisin growers to give the government a certain amount of their crop each year is part of the 1937 Agricultural Marketing Agreement Act, which was created during the Great Depression and designed to keep prices steady.

Raisin growers aren’t the only ones giving their goods to what some challengers of the law call “the nanny state.” According to the USDA, their “Marketing Order Commodity Index” requires about 20 different growers to give a certain percentage of their crop to the powers that be -- almonds, plums, and spearmint oil included.

Reached for comment, a USDA spokesperson told FoxNews.com the current law "provides the industry in California with the ability to establish and modify handling regulations in order to improve global marketing opportunities for producers and handlers." 

The official added: "The USDA is continuing to review the proposed rule-making actions. We will wait to hear the Supreme Court's decision on Horne v. USDA before publishing any proposed or final rule-making actions." 

Opponents of the law believe this is an antiquated system with little to no economic benefit.

“The Raisin Marketing Order does not benefit the growers, but rather places a substantial and disproportionate burden on them,” said attorney Jessica Ring Amunson in a written brief representing more than 30 independent raisin growers.

“This case presents the important question of whether the federal government can seize ownership, each year, of a large portion of a farmer’s raisin crop without paying the just compensation required by the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment,” Horne’s attorney, Michael McConnell, wrote in another court brief.

McConnell argued the USDA paid farmers — like Horne — “nothing at all” for some of their raisins.

This isn’t Horne’s first raisin-related appearance at the high court. Justice Elena Kagan jokingly referred to the law as “the world’s most out-of-date law” two years ago after his case was tossed back to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

“It’s such a bizarre situation,” said CATO Institute’s Editor-In-Chief Ilya Shapiro. “Whether you’re liberal, conservative, libertarian, it just sounds like a backward way of accomplishing whatever your goal might be.”

The U.S. produced more than 370,000 tons of raisins last year, but “the crop has struggled with the lack of water” in California, where U.S. production is forecast to drop 14 percent this year, according to the 2014 California Raisin Grape Objective Measurement Report.

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I need more information. On its face, it looks like an unlawful taking, and the farmer should win without a problem.

BUT, does the farmer receive subsidies from the government? Many do. And if he does, then he is is going to be subject to more regulation and it is not so cut and dry.

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I want to know what the government does with all these raisins. Do they just have a stockpile somewhere?

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I want to know what the government does with all these raisins. Do they just have a stockpile somewhere?


 It must be where they cleared out all the "gubment" cheese.



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I want to know what the government does with all these raisins. Do they just have a stockpile somewhere?


 Knowing the government they probably make grapes out of them.



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Divine Geek wrote:

I want to know what the government does with all these raisins. Do they just have a stockpile somewhere?


 It must be where they cleared out all the "gubment" cheese.


I LOVED "gubment" cheese.   



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JPT wrote:
Divine Geek wrote:

I want to know what the government does with all these raisins. Do they just have a stockpile somewhere?


 It must be where they cleared out all the "gubment" cheese.


I LOVED "gubment" cheese.   


 Me too!! My high school had it at the condiment bar. When we had French fries, we would put the govt cheese on them. Delish!  



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Where's Husker? He should know a lot more about this than the article tells us.

 



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My eyes are playing tricks on me. I'm reading Russian farmers.

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I need more information. On its face, it looks like an unlawful taking, and the farmer should win without a problem.

BUT, does the farmer receive subsidies from the government? Many do. And if he does, then he is is going to be subject to more regulation and it is not so cut and dry.


 Exactly.  It would be unfair for all the other producers if he fails to live up to his end.



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The Supreme Court ruled today that it is an unlawful taking. The farmer must be given compensation.

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That's awesome. I wonder if it will cause the price of raisins to increase? I don't buy them so I don't care but I am curious.

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The Supreme Court ruled today that it is an unlawful taking. The farmer must be given compensation.


I'm glad. smile 



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I just ate a handful of chocolate covered raisins to celebrate.

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I just ate a handful of chocolate covered raisins to celebrate.


I love chocolate covered raisins! Hmm, now I will have to go and buy some.  



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I just ate a handful of chocolate covered raisins to celebrate.


I love chocolate covered raisins! Hmm, now I will have to go and buy some.  


 My boss is addicted to them.  She always has a jar of them in her office.  She shares.  Candy in a jar here is open to everyone.



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I love chocolate covered raisins too.

Have tried the chocolate covered cranberries, blueberries and cherries? They're all good.

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