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A nuclear deal with Iran is better than the alternative

April 23, 2015 by JOHN B. QUIGLEY, Tribune News Service

Secretary of State John Kerry walks around the

The interim deal John Kerry and the leaders of other major powers has struck with Iran may not gain him kudos in Congress, but it beats any alternative that reasonable opponents of the deal have proposed.

Iran is not agreeing to forego any nuclear program. It says it wants to keep a program going for nonmilitary purposes. But it is accepting restrictions that make it unlikely it will be in a position to produce nuclear weapons any time soon.

Iran is to reduce its stockpile of low-enriched uranium by 98 percent for 15 years and cut its installed centrifuges by more than two-thirds for 10 years.

 

Iran is agreeing to destroy most of its centrifuges and to enrich uranium to levels that suffice for civilian nuclear use but won't do for a bomb. Iran is to give up nearly the entirety of its existing stockpile of enriched uranium.

Iran is also agreeing to inspection by the International Atomic Energy Agency. The acceptance of inspection is broader than most observers expected Kerry to get.

These restrictions are stunning. They represent major compromises on Iran's part. The deal is much closer to the American starting position than to Iran's.

Iran will get relief from sanctions, but not right away. The arrangement on sanctions relief also seems more favorable to the West than to Iran. Relief will come only in phases, and only as Iran is seen to be complying.

Nonetheless, the eventual lifting of sanctions will come as welcome relief to the general population in Iran, which wants their current nightmare to end.

Kerry has wisely kept the nuclear issue separate from concerns about Iran's activities in the wars that seem to be popping up on a daily basis in countries near its borders.

Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu says that negotiations with Iran should encompass both the nuclear issue and Iran's role in those conflicts.

If all that is put into the mix, there will never be a deal on the nuclear issue, as Netanyahu well knows. His suggested approach is aimed at killing a deal with Iran on the nuclear issue.

Some members of Congress say we can't trust Iran, no matter what it puts down on paper. But it will be hard for Iran to get around the restrictions to which it has agreed, even if it tries.

Hopefully, Congress will refrain from trying to scuttle the deal and ramp up sanctions on Iran. That would only get Congress into a tug-of-war down Pennsylvania Avenue. President Obama would veto, and it is unlikely Congress could override.

Polls conducted prior to the deal showed that the American public supports a negotiated arrangement with Iran, even if verification were less than ironclad.

This deal looks better for the West than what most were expecting, in terms of both the extent of what Iran is accepting and enforcement. The content of this deal should put the skeptics in Congress on the defensive.

If Congress still worries about enforceability, I have an idea. The incentive for states like Iran to acquire nuclear weapons is typically to match nuclear weapons held by rival powers. Pakistan and India each like having nuclear weapons since the other does, but neither is likely to use them.

A country acquiring nuclear weapons doesn't plan to fire them off, but they don't want to be bullied.

House Majority leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, seems to be on a first name basis with Netanyahu. Perhaps he could ask the Israeli prime minister to let the IAEA inspect his nation's nuclear weapons facility at Dimona in the Negev Desert. Israel has plenty of fully deliverable nuclear bombs.

If Israel's bombs could be kept in check, maybe anyone in Tehran who wants the bomb would lose support. Just a thought.

John B. Quigley is distinguished professor of law at The Ohio State University.

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A country acquiring nuclear weapons doesn't plan to fire them off, but they don't want to be bullied.
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this is precisely what the iranians would have us believe--and then to suggest that the israelis should ALSO be subjected to inspections ? whoever wrote this article is a complete moron--even stating in the same article that the iranians should refrain from instigating / participating in " these little wars that seem to keep cropping up (sic )"--utter liberal nonsense

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Israel has had nukes since 1963, and they haven't used them yet.

Israel is not planning to wipe out everyone who does not follow their religion.

 

Iran is hell-bent on having nukes, so they can wipe out all the Infidels.

Would they comply with an agreement if they signed it?

Would they actually allow and cooperate with the required inspections?



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We shouldn't be making any "deals" with terrorist nations.

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We shouldn't be making any "deals" with terrorist nations.


How about this:

U.S. to Iran: "If you open your facilities to immediate, unlimited inspections, then we will refrain from nuking Tehran next week. Deal?"



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We shouldn't be making any "deals" with terrorist nations.


How about this:

U.S. to Iran: "If you open your facilities to immediate, unlimited inspections, then we will refrain from nuking Tehran next week. Deal?"


 We can't just nuke Tehran. You realize the radiation will spread all over the Middle East? You won't just be hurting Iran but you keep saying this like it's a viable option. Do you think the radiation will know the bad nations from the good?



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I don't think nuking the earth anywhere is a good idea. But, there are other ways.

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I don't think nuking the earth anywhere is a good idea. But, there are other ways.


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Not necessarily. That would all depend on the terms of the deal.

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We shouldn't be making any "deals" with terrorist nations.


How about this:

U.S. to Iran: "If you open your facilities to immediate, unlimited inspections, then we will refrain from nuking Tehran next week. Deal?"


 We can't just nuke Tehran. You realize the radiation will spread all over the Middle East? You won't just be hurting Iran but you keep saying this like it's a viable option. Do you think the radiation will know the bad nations from the good?


A small nuclear explosive inside a "bunker buster"  bomb would explode 100 feet underground.

With the building codes in most of the Middle East, the resulting earthquake would probably level the city above, and probably no radiation would leak out.

Set one off next to their nuclear production facility, and it would probably turn to rubble. And the explosion could be blamed on the Iranians for blowing themselves up due to carelessness.

 



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ed11563 wrote:
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We shouldn't be making any "deals" with terrorist nations.


How about this:

U.S. to Iran: "If you open your facilities to immediate, unlimited inspections, then we will refrain from nuking Tehran next week. Deal?"


 We can't just nuke Tehran. You realize the radiation will spread all over the Middle East? You won't just be hurting Iran but you keep saying this like it's a viable option. Do you think the radiation will know the bad nations from the good?


A small nuclear explosive inside a "bunker buster"  bomb would explode 100 feet underground.

With the building codes in most of the Middle East, the resulting earthquake would probably level the city above, and probably no radiation would leak out.

Set one off next to their nuclear production facility, and it would probably turn to rubble. And the explosion could be blamed on the Iranians for blowing themselves up due to carelessness.

 


 You can't be serious about this. Why would you think the radiation wouldn't leak out? Will this bomb just cover itself up nice and tidy? There are much more effective ways that don't include radiating the entire Middle East.



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Actually, we don't know that there are more "effective" ways. To date, everything that has been tried has resulted in more intransigence from Iran--and has not stopped, or really even slowed down, their process towards making a bomb.

At some point, it would be better if we launch a pre-emptive strike rather that waiting and letting them do it, first.



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We haven't tried very many other ways to deter them. With a weak President and too many Americans worrying what other countries think about us we are allowing them to do this. Again I ask what about the other nearby countries that are our allies? No matter what ed thinks the reality is that radiation will spread beyond the borders.

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I'm not saying it should be our first, or next, option--but it is and must remain an option.

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It will always be an option but not a very good one in my opinion. It just creates a whole new set of problems that we'd be morally obligated to handle if it's decided to do that. Appeasement never works, it just makes them bolder. You'd think they'd strike a deal with Obama considering the next President could be a lot tougher than what the current leadership has shown.

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At some point, it would be better if we launch a pre-emptive strike rather that waiting and letting them do it, first.
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the Israelis will handle this if it becomes necessary--there is already quite a bit of tacit assent among several other arab nations in the region

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You'd think they'd strike a deal with Obama


The Republican already told them not to waste their time doing this. 

 



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You'd think they'd strike a deal with Obama


The Republican already told them not to waste their time doing this. 

 


 Because Iran listens to what anyone says...lol. They won't get a better deal from the Republicans which is why I thought they'd rather deal with Obama. It doesn't mean it won't be renegotiated once someone with a spine gets into the White House.



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I wish that at least our President would insist that they release the American pastor they have in prison before we would even talk to them.

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