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Lesbian Couple Accuses Christian Bakers of ‘Mental Rape,’ Awarded $135,000

 

 

An Oregon judge has awarded Lesbian couple Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer $135,000 for “emotional damages” in a lawsuit against Aaron and Melissa Klein of Sweet Cakes Bakery. They are a Christian couple who declined to provide a wedding cake to the same-sex couple in 2013.

In their lawsuit, the two women claimed they felt “mentally raped,” as part of a list of 88 symptoms of emotional distress they experienced at being refused a cake.

The long list of symptoms included “acute loss of confidence,” “doubt,” “excessive sleep,” “felt mentally raped, dirty and shameful,” “high blood pressure,” “impaired digestion,” “loss of appetite,” “migraine headaches,” “pale and sick at home after work,” “resumption of smoking habit,” “shock,” “stunned,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “weight gain” and “worry.”

The judge apparently found it unremarkable that “loss of appetite” and “impaired digestion” should lead to “weight gain.”

“[T]he forum concludes that $75,000 and $60,000, are appropriate awards to compensate for the emotional suffering they experienced,” wrote Alan McCullough, administrative law judge for Oregon’s Bureau of Labor and Industries, in his proposed order.

The award will reportedly bankrupt the seven-member Klein family and force Sweet Cakes by Melissa Bakery to shut down. The Kleins’ lawyer, Anna Harmon, said that the damages awarded were not limited to the sale of business assets, but would be taken out of their personal funds.

“The important thing to realize is this,” Harmon said, “This is real money that Aaron and Melissa are going to have to pay that otherwise would be used to pay their mortgage and feed their kids.”

In January of 2013, Laurel Bowman said the bakery would not sell her and her fiancée, Rachel Cryer, a wedding cake. She added that Aaron Klein, co-owner of Sweet Cakes by Melissa, told her that providing them with a wedding cake would be against their religious principles.

This past February, the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries (BOLI) announced that the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa bakery must pay the lesbian couple damages for refusing to sell them a wedding cake. BOLI spokesman Charlie Burr said there was sufficient evidence that the bakers discriminated against the same-sex couple.

A GoFundMe crowdfunding page in support of the bakery had been set up, but was deleted after the judge’s ruling Friday, since GoFundMe’s terms of service do not allow fundraising for people found in violation of the law.

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/26/lesbian-couple-accuses-christian-bakers-of-mental-rape-awarded-135000/



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Wow, what a load of crap. I can't believe a judge would fall for this. $135,000 just because they wouldn't bake their cake. I guess everybody does have rights except Christians.

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How odd. I wonder if there is more to the story than we see?

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The judge apparently found it unremarkable that “loss of appetite” and “impaired digestion” should lead to “weight gain.”

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What a load of bullcrap. Loss of appetite my ass. Now, not only are they Christian hating bigots - they are liars, too.

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GoFundMe took down the donation page for their legal fees.

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Mental rape? Wow. What idiocy.

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What a load of bullcrap. Loss of appetite my ass. Now, not only are they Christian hating bigots - they are liars, too.


 THAT'S what you got out of the entire story?

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What a load of bullcrap. Loss of appetite my ass. Now, not only are they Christian hating bigots - they are liars, too.


 THAT'S what you got out of the entire story?

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 Yes.  They specifically targeted this bakery. 



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I hate these stupid money grabbing lawsuits. I do think they were discriminated against but I lost all sympathy for their situation when I read the list of BS symptoms.

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I hate these stupid money grabbing lawsuits. I do think they were discriminated against but I lost all sympathy for their situation when I read the list of BS symptoms.


 Very well said!

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what an insult to the genuine victims of rape--these two women are despicable--they have no honor, zero and they have no tolerance, zero--there is no justification, none, for their homosexual lifestyle trumping the rights of ANY business owner for following their own conscience in the operation of their business

utter BS and hope the owners appeal this case to a higher court--what a disgrace in a country founded on the principles of freedom and following your own conscience--we should all be ashamed



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Lawyerlady wrote:
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What a load of bullcrap. Loss of appetite my ass. Now, not only are they Christian hating bigots - they are liars, too.


 THAT'S what you got out of the entire story?

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 Yes.  They specifically targeted this bakery. 


They felt they were fighting for their rights. I get that.

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flan327 wrote:
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What a load of bullcrap. Loss of appetite my ass. Now, not only are they Christian hating bigots - they are liars, too.


 THAT'S what you got out of the entire story?

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 Yes.  They specifically targeted this bakery. 


They felt they were fighting for their rights. I get that.

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 At the expense of someone else's rights.  WHY are their rights more important than someone else's?



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I can't see how anyone can think someone's "right" to have cake baked by a specific person trumps a person's freedom of religion and conscience.

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I can't see how anyone can think someone's "right" to have cake baked by a specific person trumps a person's freedom of religion and conscience.


 I don't either.  Don't most bars/restaurants have signs that say they reserve the right to refuse service?



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I can't see how anyone can think someone's "right" to have cake baked by a specific person trumps a person's freedom of religion and conscience.


 I don't either.  Don't most bars/restaurants have signs that say they reserve the right to refuse service?


But in what circumstances are those signs legal?

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But in what circumstances are those signs legal?
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I can't see how anyone can think someone's "right" to have cake baked by a specific person trumps a person's freedom of religion and conscience.


 I don't either.  Don't most bars/restaurants have signs that say they reserve the right to refuse service?


But in what circumstances are those signs legal?

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 I honestly don't know.  Like I said before I do think it was discrimination but my mindset is if you don't want my business someone else does.  I'd just move along to the next bakery.  I'd probably talk trash about them to who ever would listen but I think the law suit is above & beyond.  It makes them look like gold diggers & does nothing to further their cause IMO.



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Lexxy wrote:
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I can't see how anyone can think someone's "right" to have cake baked by a specific person trumps a person's freedom of religion and conscience.


 I don't either.  Don't most bars/restaurants have signs that say they reserve the right to refuse service?


But in what circumstances are those signs legal?

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 I honestly don't know.  Like I said before I do think it was discrimination but my mindset is if you don't want my business someone else does.  I'd just move along to the next bakery.  I'd probably talk trash about them to who ever would listen but I think the law suit is above & beyond.  It makes them look like gold diggers & does nothing to further their cause IMO.


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So they can refuse service to a person due to the color of his skin?

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Lexxy wrote:
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I can't see how anyone can think someone's "right" to have cake baked by a specific person trumps a person's freedom of religion and conscience.


 I don't either.  Don't most bars/restaurants have signs that say they reserve the right to refuse service?


But in what circumstances are those signs legal?

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 I honestly don't know.  Like I said before I do think it was discrimination but my mindset is if you don't want my business someone else does.  I'd just move along to the next bakery.  I'd probably talk trash about them to who ever would listen but I think the law suit is above & beyond.  It makes them look like gold diggers & does nothing to further their cause IMO.


 Especially since their list of symptoms is ludicrous.

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So they can refuse service to a person due to the color of his skin?

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I can't see how anyone can think someone's "right" to have cake baked by a specific person trumps a person's freedom of religion and conscience.


 I don't either.  Don't most bars/restaurants have signs that say they reserve the right to refuse service?


But in what circumstances are those signs legal?

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 I honestly don't know.  Like I said before I do think it was discrimination but my mindset is if you don't want my business someone else does.  I'd just move along to the next bakery.  I'd probably talk trash about them to who ever would listen but I think the law suit is above & beyond.  It makes them look like gold diggers & does nothing to further their cause IMO.


 Especially since their list of symptoms is ludicrous.

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 Exactly!!

Back in the late 80s whenever an ambulance chasing attorney got ahold of a bodily injury claim they would always claim "loss of consortium".   I'm surprised that wasn't included on their list.



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This is a made up war specifically to target Christians and their beliefs because they don't agree with them. If there was no ill-will involved, it would be "live and let live", but instead they choose to make up crap and sue people to put them out of business. It's HATE and it's worse because it is so selfish and unnecessary.

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This is a made up war specifically to target Christians and their beliefs because they don't agree with them. If there was no ill-will involved, it would be "live and let live", but instead they choose to make up crap and sue people to put them out of business. It's HATE and it's worse because it is so selfish and unnecessary.


 I don't see it as specifically targeting Christians in general.  It is targeting these people in particular.  Because they denied them service.  It is hate & it is unnecessary.



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Why and when did saying no become hate?

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This is a made up war specifically to target Christians and their beliefs because they don't agree with them. If there was no ill-will involved, it would be "live and let live", but instead they choose to make up crap and sue people to put them out of business. It's HATE and it's worse because it is so selfish and unnecessary.


 I don't see it as specifically targeting Christians in general.  It is targeting these people in particular.  Because they denied them service.  It is hate & it is unnecessary.


 Christians businesses ARE being targeted.  A gay and lesbian group sued "Hands on Originals - Christian Outfitters" because they refused to print T-shirts promoting a gay pride festival.  Tell me that is not targeted.  They went SPECIFICALLY to a company that promotes itself as a "chrisitan outfitter" and demanded they print T-shirts in support of something against their beliefs.

Luckily, a judge with some sense has stated that they don't have to print anything that goes against their religious convictions.  Of course, the GLSO plans to appeal - because for some reason they think they have the right to make everyone do what they want.



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Why and when did saying no become hate?


 I didn't mean the cake people were being hateful.  I meant the lesbian couple going after them for saying no was hate.



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This is a made up war specifically to target Christians and their beliefs because they don't agree with them. If there was no ill-will involved, it would be "live and let live", but instead they choose to make up crap and sue people to put them out of business. It's HATE and it's worse because it is so selfish and unnecessary.


 I don't see it as specifically targeting Christians in general.  It is targeting these people in particular.  Because they denied them service.  It is hate & it is unnecessary.


 Christians businesses ARE being targeted.  A gay and lesbian group sued "Hands on Originals - Christian Outfitters" because they refused to print T-shirts promoting a gay pride festival.  Tell me that is not targeted.  They went SPECIFICALLY to a company that promotes itself as a "chrisitan outfitter" and demanded they print T-shirts in support of something against their beliefs.

Luckily, a judge with some sense has stated that they don't have to print anything that goes against their religious convictions.  Of course, the GLSO plans to appeal - because for some reason they think they have the right to make everyone do what they want.


 I don't really know anything about that but if it is true then yes they specifically targeted the Christian Outfitters to make their point.  I think that is blatantly wrong.  Get your shirts printed by another company.  I bet their is a homosexually owned printer somewhere in this big country that would absolutely love to get that big job.  Support your own community & stop trying to tear down people's businesses.



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 I didn't mean the cake people were being hateful.  I meant the lesbian couple going after them for saying no was hate.


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Lexxy wrote:
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This is a made up war specifically to target Christians and their beliefs because they don't agree with them. If there was no ill-will involved, it would be "live and let live", but instead they choose to make up crap and sue people to put them out of business. It's HATE and it's worse because it is so selfish and unnecessary.


 I don't see it as specifically targeting Christians in general.  It is targeting these people in particular.  Because they denied them service.  It is hate & it is unnecessary.


 Oh, it's SOOO much more dramatic if you start screaming that Christians have no rights anymore.

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 That was uncalled for and you know it.

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What a load of bullcrap. Loss of appetite my ass. Now, not only are they Christian hating bigots - they are liars, too.


 THAT'S what you got out of the entire story?

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 Yes.  They specifically targeted this bakery. 


They felt they were fighting for their rights. I get that.

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 This isnt about rights.



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Well...of people like this couple keep bullying people into condoning them like this....i can see the backlash in the form of open hating on of gays like the old days happening eventually.
I don't want that mind you but keep steamrolling and bullying and eventually its going to bite you in the Arse.

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Well, at least the ONLY ones who had their rights violated was the business.

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Sounds like the two women had a agenda when they went to the bakery in the first place.

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Sounds like the two women had a agenda when they went to the bakery in the first place.


 You know, I really believe this is what is happening.



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Sounds like the two women had a agenda when they went to the bakery in the first place.


 You know, I really believe this is what is happening.


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what an insult to the genuine victims of rape--these two women are despicable--they have no honor, zero and they have no tolerance, zero--there is no justification, none, for their homosexual lifestyle trumping the rights of ANY business owner for following their own conscience in the operation of their business

utter BS and hope the owners appeal this case to a higher court--what a disgrace in a country founded on the principles of freedom and following your own conscience--we should all be ashamed


This. Especially the bolded.

Mentally raped, my ass. If being told 'no' makes you feel so violated, you need to buck up and grow up. And, claiming both loss of appetite and weight gain? Laughable.

Those adult children must feel so good about themselves knowing that their actions are causing hardship to another person.



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Sounds like the two women had a agenda when they went to the bakery in the first place.


 You know, I really believe this is what is happening.


 Me too.


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what an insult to the genuine victims of rape--these two women are despicable--they have no honor, zero and they have no tolerance, zero--there is no justification, none, for their homosexual lifestyle trumping the rights of ANY business owner for following their own conscience in the operation of their business

utter BS and hope the owners appeal this case to a higher court--what a disgrace in a country founded on the principles of freedom and following your own conscience--we should all be ashamed


This. Especially the bolded.

Mentally raped, my ass. If being told 'no' makes you feel so violated, you need to buck up and grow up. And, claiming both loss of appetite and weight gain? Laughable.

Those adult children must feel so good about themselves knowing that their actions are causing hardship to another person.


 I agree that the lawsuit is frivolous, but all the bakery had to do was...wait for it...bake a cake.

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what an insult to the genuine victims of rape--these two women are despicable--they have no honor, zero and they have no tolerance, zero--there is no justification, none, for their homosexual lifestyle trumping the rights of ANY business owner for following their own conscience in the operation of their business

utter BS and hope the owners appeal this case to a higher court--what a disgrace in a country founded on the principles of freedom and following your own conscience--we should all be ashamed


This. Especially the bolded.

Mentally raped, my ass. If being told 'no' makes you feel so violated, you need to buck up and grow up. And, claiming both loss of appetite and weight gain? Laughable.

Those adult children must feel so good about themselves knowing that their actions are causing hardship to another person.


 I agree that the lawsuit is frivolous, but all the bakery had to do was...wait for it...bake a cake.

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 But all the couple had to do was...wait for it...find another baker who wanted to bake their cake. See how that works...lol



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