So, L.A. just approved a 15 minimum wage to go into effect a few years down the line. Personally I do think that minimum way needs to be brought up, but I don't think forcing this big jump is the answer. There is a huge gap between poor and middle class and the middle class keeps shrinking so things do need to be addressed...
Shouldn't we be giving incentives businesses to stay in California and offer higher wages rather than raising taxes and telling them to pay more?
In&Out already starts their employees well above minimum wage, so it can be done.
All those on the bottom getting a raise will force the raise up the ladder.
Still don't know why putting a burger together should take $15 an hour.
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Do you think that large corporations such as McDonald's and walgreens will keep their locations in LA open?
Will smaller stores be able to stay in business at all?
The large ones will. Corporate stores will balance out. Franchises not so much.
The smaller places? Will have to fight tooth and nail to stay afloat.
Between higher minimum wages and forced insurance coverage, the mom and pop stores are a dying breed.
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The only option for small businesses (AND LARGE ONES) is to raise prices so their costs and profit levels are covered.
Customers go to places like 7-eleven or In and Out Express because they can't or don't want to be bothered going someplace cheaper or farther away or --- gasp --- annoying (i.e. Walmart).
Do a lot of people decide which fast-food place to go to based on the price of the burger? Or is it usually something else?
(Distance, taste, cleanliness?)
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A lot of high school kids will have a even harder time to find a job. Small businesses will either cut hours and employees to the bare bone or close up. California is a expensive place to live and high taxes. They are not friendly to businesses anyway so this will hurt them even more. Also a burger flipper is not worth $15.00 a hour. Fast food places, stores etc.. are not meant to be careers. They are entry level jobs. They help a kid in high school/college to have on their reseme and teaches them work ethics and responsibility. I'm glad L.A. is the quina pig for higher min. wage. We will see how it goes.
Convenience is the biggest factor followed by price and then quality.
What's going to happen, and I did it so I know, is hours will be cut for regular employees. More breaks given, other small perks taken.
And this raise will cause more poverty. Once you make so much, you can't get federal or state help with things. Food stamps, school loans.
There will be less hiring, jobs will be cut.
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A burger flipper in Los Angeles will now make more money than a pre-school or music teacher.
If they're raising the minimum wage everyone will get the higher minimum wage, not just burger flippers. (and you know how I hate to disagree with you...lol)
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A burger flipper in Los Angeles will now make more money than a pre-school or music teacher.
If they're raising the minimum wage everyone will get the higher minimum wage, not just burger flippers. (and you know how I hate to disagree with you...lol)
No. Because teachers are salaried, and don't work the full year - they will not have to be given raises. Working 40 hours for 38 weeks at $15/hr is $22,800.00. As long as they make more than that - and they average $24,000, they will not need to get a raise.
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I think it's crazy to raise the minimum wage that high anyway but they'll have to renogtiate the teacher contract at some point and they'll have a great argument for a big raise now.
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I thought the small mom and pop type businesses were exempt from paying the minimum wage. I'm pretty sure that here in NY, there has to be more than a certain number of employees before the minimum wage is required.
I haven't seen a high school kid working in a fast food job in years. When DD23 was in high school a few years ago, no one would hire her. They only hired adults. High school kids couldn't get their foot in the door because adults who were out of work were taking all the jobs. Since then, I have noticed that most of the fast food type jobs and entry level jobs in stores are taken by adults.
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$15 an hour sounds like a lot until you realize those people will probably only get 20 hours a week but lose all the benefits they got for being low income. This isn't going to help anyone. Rent and groceries will go up. So will public transportation.
-- Edited by Southern_Belle on Wednesday 20th of May 2015 05:09:31 PM
Anyone who ever took a basic economics course will know this isn't the answer - as several Geeks mentioned, it will make matters worse. Prices go up as a result and the "burger-flippers" are in the same boat as before.
I was 16 when I started working in a restaurant. I made $5.25 an hour.
I worked other places, retail, manufacturing, sales. But those jobs would end or I would be laid off or whatever.
I always had a steady job in restaurants.
I was out of work for a while and when I went back, the job I got was in another restaurant. I worked my way up.
I can tell you that the ones looking for jobs didn't change. It was the ones who would work any job cause they needed to work.
That being said, none of the jobs I have ever done in a restaurant, except management, we're not $15 an hour job.
And some of the management didn't work hard enough for it either.
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Walmart is already complaining that they are not losing money (i.e. not making the same or more profits they did the month before) after giving some employees a raise to $9 an hour.
