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Another Airplane Thread

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I never got a can of coke either. Did anyone else?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Never. But I haven't flown since 9-11. Even back then you didn't get the whole can.

And JFTR, I would think beer would be different as it had to be purchased. You don't just routinely ask for, and get, beer.

karl271 · Guru

So some people hate Muslims. Some hate right wingers. Some hate Christians. And no one is very shy about talking about it or yelling about it.

I also see the internet has become a good place to cry about how hard you have it and how you have been discriminated against, etc. etc. Not just in this case, but in many others.

I notice the air steward said "unauthorized to give unopened cans to PEOPLE" That discriminates against all people. LOL Some people are just looking for a reason to cry discrimination.

It is a tough world. Learn to live in it without going out of your way to look for slights from others.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I asked DH who flies all the time. He says no one ever gets their own can of soda or water. He said sometimes they will give out those tiny little bottles of water that are like four ounces but no one ever gets a full size can of soda. He also said the rules for alcohol are completely different. It has to be sold by the container.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I asked DH who flies all the time. He says no one ever gets their own can of soda or water. He said sometimes they will give out those tiny little bottles of water that are like four ounces but no one ever gets a full size can of soda. He also said the rules for alcohol are completely different. It has to be sold by the container.

Then the stewardess should have said so, not made a big deal out of opening the beer. And, I've asked for a full can on flights when they try to pour me the tiny cup. They always cough it up.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Tignanello wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I asked DH who flies all the time. He says no one ever gets their own can of soda or water. He said sometimes they will give out those tiny little bottles of water that are like four ounces but no one ever gets a full size can of soda. He also said the rules for alcohol are completely different. It has to be sold by the container.
Then the stewardess should have said so, not made a big deal out of opening the beer. And, I've asked for a full can on flights when they try to pour me the tiny cup. They always cough it up.

Eh, don't quote me. I haven't been on a plane since before 9-11. So what do I know. I just went by what DH said. My educated guess is that since you are required to purchase alcohol they have to give you the whole can.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I think the problem came when she BROUGHT her an opened can. She could have simply opened a new one in front of her. And if an unopened can is not allowed because it could be a weapon - the contents should not matter.

But regardless - I think it ridiculous that a man can yell racist obscenities at a woman on a plane and not get kicked off but a crying baby is a threat that requires removal.

United Airlines has a problem with their flight attendants. Every complaint has been about them.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I asked DH who flies all the time. He says no one ever gets their own can of soda or water. He said sometimes they will give out those tiny little bottles of water that are like four ounces but no one ever gets a full size can of soda. He also said the rules for alcohol are completely different. It has to be sold by the container.

Yes, nobody gets a full can of soda. Sooo, if nobody else is getting one, then how is this "discrimination". This is why people get sick of these whiners. Gawd. That isn't discrimination.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I asked DH who flies all the time. He says no one ever gets their own can of soda or water. He said sometimes they will give out those tiny little bottles of water that are like four ounces but no one ever gets a full size can of soda. He also said the rules for alcohol are completely different. It has to be sold by the container.
Yes, nobody gets a full can of soda. Sooo, if nobody else is getting one, then how is this "discrimination". This is why people get sick of these whiners. Gawd. That isn't discrimination.

I have been given a full can off soda on numerous occasions.

The discrimination isn't in the can of coke - it is in the way she was spoken to and treated when she requested a new can that wasn't already open.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I never got a can of coke either. Did anyone else?

Yes, but I can't remember when...I'm thinking a flight to Hawaii because it was so long.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I don't see where the stewardess said anything wrong. She said it could be a 'weapon'. If that is their policy and they say that anyone else, that isn't discrimination. I have never been given a full can. And, yeah, they do treat alcohol differently, which I agree is stupid, but that doesnt' rise to the level of discrimination.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't see where the stewardess said anything wrong. She said it could be a 'weapon'. If that is their policy and they say that anyone else, that isn't discrimination. I have never been given a full can. And, yeah, they do treat alcohol differently, which I agree is stupid, but that doesnt' rise to the level of discrimination.

So, you didn't notice the part where after refusing the woman a full can, she then handed the man next to her a full can that wasn't open? If the excuse is that it could be used as a weapon - why was she the only one refused a closed can?

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

I've gotten full cans of soda on flights before. Cans are always opened by the attendant. Funny, I didn't know it was due to the weapon factor, I thought it was so you wouldn't shake it up and squirt the passenger in the next seat.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

This one's pretty cut & dried, imo.

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't see where the stewardess said anything wrong. She said it could be a 'weapon'. If that is their policy and they say that anyone else, that isn't discrimination. I have never been given a full can. And, yeah, they do treat alcohol differently, which I agree is stupid, but that doesnt' rise to the level of discrimination.
So, you didn't notice the part where after refusing the woman a full can, she then handed the man next to her a full can that wasn't open? If the excuse is that it could be used as a weapon - why was she the only one refused a closed can?

Just because the one guy received an unopened can of beer doesn't make her the only one whose can was opened.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
This one's pretty cut & dried, imo.

flan

In what way?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't see where the stewardess said anything wrong. She said it could be a 'weapon'. If that is their policy and they say that anyone else, that isn't discrimination. I have never been given a full can. And, yeah, they do treat alcohol differently, which I agree is stupid, but that doesnt' rise to the level of discrimination.
So, you didn't notice the part where after refusing the woman a full can, she then handed the man next to her a full can that wasn't open? If the excuse is that it could be used as a weapon - why was she the only one refused a closed can?
Just because the one guy received an unopened can of beer doesn't make her the only one whose can was opened.

No. Most probably were opened. But the way THIS instance was handled was very, very bad. Let's see, "No, YOU can't have an unopened can (and I still think she just wanted a FRESH drink, not one that was already open) because of safety, but sir, here YOU go" and hands him an un-open can. That was very, very stupid.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So what? Stupid isn't discrimination.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

And let's not forget allowing another passenger to scream racist obscenities at her. Because we all know that United will throw people off the plane for much lesser offenses.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
This one's pretty cut & dried, imo.

flan
In what way?

Because the flight attendant claimed NO full cans, yet gave another passenger a FULL CAN in front of the OP.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So what? Stupid isn't discrimination.

Yes, it is. If you won't give a woman with a head covering an un-opened can but will give the white man next to her one because of "safety", then yes, it is discrimination.

Now, had she simply said, "We must open all drinks before handing them to passengers", then no biggie and I would agree with you. But that is not what happened here.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
This one's pretty cut & dried, imo.

flan
In what way?
Because the flight attendant claimed NO full cans, yet gave another passenger a FULL CAN in front of the OP.
flan

And the reason for no full cans was "safety", not "he bought a full can".

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So what? Stupid isn't discrimination.
Yes, it is. If you won't give a woman with a head covering an un-opened can but will give the white man next to her one because of "safety", then yes, it is discrimination.
Now, had she simply said, "We must open all drinks before handing them to passengers", then no biggie and I would agree with you. But that is not what happened here.

She gave him beer. Alcohol is treated differently on planes. Yeah, it's stupid but that is how they do it.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So what? Stupid isn't discrimination.
Yes, it is. If you won't give a woman with a head covering an un-opened can but will give the white man next to her one because of "safety", then yes, it is discrimination.
Now, had she simply said, "We must open all drinks before handing them to passengers", then no biggie and I would agree with you. But that is not what happened here.
She gave him beer. Alcohol is treated differently on planes. Yeah, it's stupid but that is how they do it.

It was not about the CONTENT, it was about an un-open can being used as a weapon. If the policy is no un-open cans, then there is no reason for that not to apply to beer. You open the can and hand it to him.

This was simply an excuse to be mean to this woman. And a poor one.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

That still doesn't make it discrimination. Bad customer service isn't discrimination.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I'm going to get another unopened can of Coke cherry zero from my frig...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Diet pop is nasty.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
That still doesn't make it discrimination. Bad customer service isn't discrimination.

You are purposefully missing the point.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Diet pop is nasty.

That I can agree on. And unhealthy, too.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

"Ma'am, I can't give you an un-open can. You could use it as a weapon."

"Sir, here you go - here's your un-open can."

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
"Ma'am, I can't give you an un-open can. You could use it as a weapon."

"Sir, here you go - here's your un-open can."

I already said that was stupid didn't I? But, that doesn't make it discrimination. Did she ask for beer and not get a full can of beer?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Diet pop is nasty.
That I can agree on. And unhealthy, too.

MORE FOR ME!!!!!

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flan the peacemaker

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You can have it! Gross!! And, btw, NutraSweet is a Neurotoxin!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
"Ma'am, I can't give you an un-open can. You could use it as a weapon."

"Sir, here you go - here's your un-open can."
I already said that was stupid didn't I? But, that doesn't make it discrimination. Did she ask for beer and not get a full can of beer?

*headdesk*

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

If she asked for a beer and was then NOT handed a can of beer, then you are comparing the same thing. Alcohol is treated differently, you know that. So,I have never been given a can of pop either, so was I discriminated against too?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
If she asked for a beer and was then NOT handed a can of beer, then you are comparing the same thing. Alcohol is treated differently, you know that. So,I have never been given a can of pop either, so was I discriminated against too?

The contents of the can DO NOT MATTER. If a FULL un-opened can of liquid can be used as a weapon - what is IN the can is IRRELEVANT. And THAT is the reason she was refused a new can. NOT because of the content - but because it could be used as a weapon.

Do you really think a full can of beer would hurt less than a full can of coke if you got bonked over the head with it?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
If she asked for a beer and was then NOT handed a can of beer, then you are comparing the same thing. Alcohol is treated differently, you know that. So,I have never been given a can of pop either, so was I discriminated against too?
The contents of the can DO NOT MATTER. If a FULL un-opened can of liquid can be used as a weapon - what is IN the can is IRRELEVANT. And THAT is the reason she was refused a new can. NOT because of the content - but because it could be used as a weapon.

Do you really think a full can of beer would hurt less than a full can of coke if you got bonked over the head with it?

LL, why do you keep arguing with me? I don't make the Airline rules. You KNOW they treat alcohol differently. They just do. Is it stupid? Yes. But, that is what they do.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
If she asked for a beer and was then NOT handed a can of beer, then you are comparing the same thing. Alcohol is treated differently, you know that. So,I have never been given a can of pop either, so was I discriminated against too?
The contents of the can DO NOT MATTER. If a FULL un-opened can of liquid can be used as a weapon - what is IN the can is IRRELEVANT. And THAT is the reason she was refused a new can. NOT because of the content - but because it could be used as a weapon.

Do you really think a full can of beer would hurt less than a full can of coke if you got bonked over the head with it?
LL, why do you keep arguing with me? I don't make the Airline rules. You KNOW they treat alcohol differently. They just do. Is it stupid? Yes. But, that is what they do.

There is NO REASON to give ANYONE any full can of anything without opening it if SAFETY is the reason. NONE.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The flight attendant was LYING - what part of that don't you understand?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I already agreed with that like 10x.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

No, you really haven't.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes, I have.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Uh-huh.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

And I still want to know why a fellow passenger yelling racist obscenities at another passenger was not removed from the plane. This IS the same airline that removed a young autistic girl and a crying baby.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
And I still want to know why a fellow passenger yelling racist obscenities at another passenger was not removed from the plane. This IS the same airline that removed a young autistic girl and a crying baby.

That's a different issue completely. It isn't racism to not give her a can. And, playing the discrimination card for every damn thing gets old. And, yes the other passenger was a jerk.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
And I still want to know why a fellow passenger yelling racist obscenities at another passenger was not removed from the plane. This IS the same airline that removed a young autistic girl and a crying baby.

The only one I agree with is the FIFTEEN year old autistic girl whose mother made a threat.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
And I still want to know why a fellow passenger yelling racist obscenities at another passenger was not removed from the plane. This IS the same airline that removed a young autistic girl and a crying baby.
That's a different issue completely. It isn't racism to not give her a can. And, playing the discrimination card for every damn thing gets old. And, yes the other passenger was a jerk.

It is racism to refuse to give her a can because SHE might use it as a weapon and then hand a can to another passenger. It assumes HE won't use it as a weapon. So why is she the one they are concerned about using it as a weapon and not the other guy?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
And I still want to know why a fellow passenger yelling racist obscenities at another passenger was not removed from the plane. This IS the same airline that removed a young autistic girl and a crying baby.
The only one I agree with is the FIFTEEN year old autistic girl whose mother made a threat.
flan

Then remove the mother. The girl made no such threat.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Seriously. I thought you would be one of the first ones to be disgusted at the constant 'everything in the world is racist" type mantra.

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A Muslim Female Passenger Is Alleging Racist Treatment On Board A United Airlines Flight

This is Tahera Ahmad, an associate chaplain at Northwestern University.

After posting about the incident, many took to social media to show solidarity with Ahmad using the hashtag #unitedfortahera.

In a statement to BuzzFeed News, United Airlines said it had reached out to Ahmad, and that it did not discriminate against its customers:

In later update, Ahmad said she still had not had contact from a United representative: