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People Who Cut Off Their Own Limbs (and Their Enablers)

 
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by Ian Tuttle June 3, 2015 6:30 PM
Do those who voluntarily undergo unnecessary amputations deserve praise and support, like “Caitlin” Jenner?

One day after Vanity Fair’s grand unveiling of “Caitlyn” Jenner, Canada’s National Post ran an interesting story on a different “trans” community:

“We define transability as the desire or the need for a person identified as able-bodied by other people to transform his or her body to obtain a physical impairment,” says Alexandre Baril, a Quebec born academic who will present on “transability” at this week’s Congress of the Social Sciences and Humanities at the University of Ottawa.

“The person could want to become deaf, blind, amputee, paraplegic. It’s a really, really strong desire.”

This phenomenon — known in the medical literature as Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID) — is well documented, if not well understood. Some researchers believe the causes are primarily psychological (e.g. the inexplicable idealization, as a child, of an amputee); others blame physiology (a failure of the brain’s body-mapping function to develop properly, causing a limb to seem as if it is not part of the body).

Whatever the cause(s), the consequences can be extreme. In 2006, ABC News chronicled the story of “Karl,” who used 100 pounds of dry ice to freeze his legs so thoroughly that doctors would have to amputate them (they did). Others have crushed or sawed away limbs. To this list of procedures one might add, as related phenomena, the dozens of varieties of extreme self-mutilation advertised in such publications as Body Modification Ezine (viewer discretion strongly advised).

RELATED: Bruce ‘Caitlyn’ Jenner Needs Our Prayers, Not Our Applause

In 2006 ABC News could call BIID a “strange obsession.” In 2015 (recognizing, I’ll grant you, that Canada tends to be ahead of the curve on such things), it is “transability.”

But why should it not be? Note how “Lily,” also profiled in the 2006 article, justifies her (unsuccessful) attempts to amputate her legs: “I wasn’t born in the correct body.”

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If the justification for both transgenderism and “transability” is an incongruity between body and “identity,” why should one be socially acceptable and the other not? Why should Bruce’s desire to live as “Caitlyn” be a courageous expression of his (“her”) “authentic self,” but Karl’s wish to live in a wheelchair be a pathology that needs help?

RELATED: Who Won Bruce Jenner’s Olympic Medals?

The ethos of cultural progressivism — the philosophy that reflexively applauds Jenner and Laverne Cox and the like — can draw no dividing lines when it comes to such matters; it can articulate no limiting principles. The ability of the individual to secure his or her (or “ner” or “vis”) happiness is paramount. Nothing can be permitted to circumscribe that autonomy. Because this is not a commitment to anything more than “the right to transgress,” it should be plain that such an ethos is not “life-affirming”; just the opposite — it is nihilistic. It destroys consensus, community, charity. It should be equally plain that no genuine freedom can long endure on such a foundation.

As I wrote yesterday (on a related topic), the problem is not Bruce Jenner or Karl or Lily or any particular individuals. It is the demand, implicit in cultural progressivism, that we as a society normalize the subjective feelings of obviously abnormal individuals. We must condemn the healthful as sickening, while embracing the sick as healthy.

One recalls the gleeful Cheshire Cat: “We’re all mad here.” Not yet, but that seems to be the goal.

— Ian Tuttle is a William F. Buckley Fellow at the National Review Institute

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419282/people-who-cut-their-own-limbs-and-their-enablers-ian-tuttle



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Well, why not? I mean, don't like your penis - cut it off. Don't like your leg - cut it off. What is the difference, really?

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"We must condemn the healthful as sickening, while embracing the sick as healthy."

 

This quote from the article is exactly what I see happening all around now.



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"We must condemn the healthful as sickening, while embracing the sick as healthy."

 

This quote from the article is exactly what I see happening all around now.


 I see it, too.  



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See. This is the big gapping canyon that we call mental health care.



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I can't fathom wanting to cut off a limb. I also can't fathom wanting to become a man.

I think it's stupid that "being born in the wrong body" is a sickness when attributed to a person who wants to cut off a limb but it's not a sickness when attributed to a person who wants to change their gender.

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If this country keeps going in the direction it has been going, pretty soon we taxpayers will be paying for the mentally ill to have body parts cut off.

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If this country keeps going in the direction it has been going, pretty soon we taxpayers will be paying for the mentally ill to have body parts cut off.


 Start with the head. Problem solved?



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lilyofcourse wrote:
sweet tooth wrote:

If this country keeps going in the direction it has been going, pretty soon we taxpayers will be paying for the mentally ill to have body parts cut off.


 Start with the head. Problem solved?


 LOL.  So bad and so wrong. 

 

And I thought the same thing.



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I swear there was a story awhile ago about someone who had this problem. They had a perfectly good limb cut off and then when they couldn't do their job anymore, they lost it and went on welfare. I could be mistaken but I thought this was a news story a few years ago.

 

 

There should be some sort of stipulation that if you have a perfectly good limb cut off, you cannot file for disability. 



-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Thursday 4th of June 2015 04:28:28 PM

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Mellow Momma wrote:

I swear there was a story awhile ago about someone who had this problem. They had a perfectly good limb cut off and then when they couldn't do their job anymore, they lost it and went on welfare. I could be mistaken but I thought this was a news story a few years ago.

 

 

There should be some sort of stipulation that if you have a perfectly good limb cut off, you cannot file for disability. 



-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Thursday 4th of June 2015 04:28:28 PM


 I rought this up when I was buying disability insurance.  I actually was asking about what in the case if the guy from the movie 127 that cut his arm off, would it be covered.



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cadiver wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:

I swear there was a story awhile ago about someone who had this problem. They had a perfectly good limb cut off and then when they couldn't do their job anymore, they lost it and went on welfare. I could be mistaken but I thought this was a news story a few years ago.

 

 

There should be some sort of stipulation that if you have a perfectly good limb cut off, you cannot file for disability. 



-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Thursday 4th of June 2015 04:28:28 PM


 I rought this up when I was buying disability insurance.  I actually was asking about what in the case if the guy from the movie 127 that cut his arm off, would it be covered.


 So what was the answer?  And in his case it was a life or death situation.  These other crazies just do it because they don't like their limb.  I saw a documentary about 3 different people who wanted to cut off one limb or another for various reasons.



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Lexxy wrote:
cadiver wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:

I swear there was a story awhile ago about someone who had this problem. They had a perfectly good limb cut off and then when they couldn't do their job anymore, they lost it and went on welfare. I could be mistaken but I thought this was a news story a few years ago.

 

 

There should be some sort of stipulation that if you have a perfectly good limb cut off, you cannot file for disability. 



-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Thursday 4th of June 2015 04:28:28 PM


 I rought this up when I was buying disability insurance.  I actually was asking about what in the case if the guy from the movie 127 that cut his arm off, would it be covered.


 So what was the answer?  And in his case it was a life or death situation.  These other crazies just do it because they don't like their limb.  I saw a documentary about 3 different people who wanted to cut off one limb or another for various reasons.


 The agent did not have an answer.  Hopefully I will never have to make the choice, I doubt know I would get a payment would make a difference in my decision though.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
sweet tooth wrote:

If this country keeps going in the direction it has been going, pretty soon we taxpayers will be paying for the mentally ill to have body parts cut off.


 Start with the head. Problem solved?


 LOL.  So bad and so wrong. 

 

And I thought the same thing.


 Hehe... it's fun being a little twisted. 



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Can I cut off most of my azz?

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flan327 wrote:

Can I cut off most of my azz?

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 Yes you can.  


 I'd like to recycle some of mine.



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Bonny22Pye wrote:
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Can I cut off most of my azz?

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 Yes you can.  


 Why, thank you, Bonny!

Stomach as well?

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flan327 wrote:

Can I cut off most of my azz?

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flan327 wrote:
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flan327 wrote:

Can I cut off most of my azz?

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 Yes you can.  


 Why, thank you, Bonny!

Stomach as well?

flan


 And what about taking what you cut off because you don't want it there, and placing it where you prefer it to be?   What would that word be, I wonder...?



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flan327 wrote:

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 LOL!



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Honeys_Mom wrote:
flan327 wrote:
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flan327 wrote:

Can I cut off most of my azz?

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 Yes you can.  


 Why, thank you, Bonny!

Stomach as well?

flan


 And what about taking what you cut off because you don't want it there, and placing it where you prefer it to be?   What would that word be, I wonder...?


 Lumpy. 



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