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Is this fun teasing, or is it bullying? [13 vote(s)]

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June 12, 2015 by AMY DICKINSON / askamy@tribune.com

DEAR AMY: My husband and I have a bright, social and engaging 5-year-old daughter. Our problem has to do with how some family members and close friends interact with her. Examples include people visiting our home and telling her that they are going to take her baby brother home with them, which resulted in my daughter screaming in protest while the other person had a hearty laugh. Then there was the time an adult relative came to her birthday party and repeatedly said, "It's my party and I'm going to cut the cake!" while my daughter progressively got more confused and agitated. This went on until she was in tears and the adult started laughing. We see no meaning in such interactions. We have tried to steer the conversation elsewhere, but we want to get the message across politely, but clearly, that we do not appreciate people agitating our child. My daughter says that she hates being teased by adults and we have asked her to tell people that, but in that moment, she can't. What can we do to send the message politely that we would like our child to be treated with respect and not teased for fun?

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DEAR AGITATED: Some adults are able to engage children appropriately by "kidding." Five-year-olds usually catch on pretty quickly when an adult says, "Hey, wait a minute -- that's MY birthday cake!" if the adult telegraphs that this is a kidding game. The adult conveys this with a smile and body language that signals to the child his intentions.

Teasing a child until she is obviously distressed is just bullying. Laughing at a child you have made cry is disgusting.

I'm not sure why you are so worried about being polite. While this is happening, you should place your hand on your child's arm and say, "Uncle Buck is teasing you, honey." If you don't catch it in time, after you comfort your child you should ask the adult, "Please don't tease her. You are the only person who enjoys it."

 



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This sounds fishy to me. I've often goofed around with kids asking if I can take their new baby home. I've never ever had one get mad. They just kind of giggle and say, "No, he's mine!"



-- Edited by Nobody Just Nobody on Saturday 13th of June 2015 08:03:07 PM

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That girl needs to toughen up and those parents need to teach her to take a joke.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

That girl needs to toughen up and those parents need to teach her to take a joke.


 I agree.  It sounds like they're so busy trying to teach her to be "precocious" that she has no personality.



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I don't see an issue with the two situations presented in the letter. My Uncle teases in such a manner but his body language, tone of voice, etc. makes it clear he is teasing.

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Does not sound like a "bright, social and engaging 5 year old to me."

Unless they have some really bad relatives and friends a 5 year old should be able to tell when a joke is being made....

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Does not sound like a "bright, social and engaging 5 year old to me."

Unless they have some really bad relatives and friends a 5 year old should be able to tell when a joke is being made....


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I agree with everyone. There have been times when DD was unable to tell if a person was teasing, like if it's someone she doesn't know well, but that is when I would step in and clue her in. Why are the parents just standing by and watching their daughter become panicked and upset?

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Yeah I don't get that NAOW. They say how smart she is and all but she's still only five. If her feelings are hurt that easily the parents need to be stepping in.



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I also have to wonder why the teasing adults don't stop when they see her becoming agitated. Like NJN said, I have teased kids like this, but if they didn't get it, I wouldn't make the kid cry.

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I agree. If I ask a kid if I can take their new baby home and they seem upset that would be the end of it. I would drop it. Not keep on. That's why this whole thing sounds fishy to me. The parents aren't standing up and the guests are just mercilessly going on.

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Something just seems off to me.



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

Something just seems off to me.


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And they say it's happened a bunch of times because they've encouraged their five year old to say something. Um, you want a five year old who can't handle teasing to correct an adult? No. The parents seem nuts.

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There is nothing wrong with this kid. She is acting like any 5 year old would in this situation. It's the relatives. They probably aren't giving any visual or bodily cues that they are joking. And the one who laughed after making the kid cry sounds insane.


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Sounds like the parents have relatives and friends that are not so nice people. Who would tell a 5 YO that they are going to kidnap the baby?

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There is nothing wrong with this kid. She is acting like any 5 year old would in this situation. It's the relatives. They probably aren't giving any visual or bodily cues that they are joking. And the one who laughed after making the kid cry sounds insane.


Yes, that's just not playing fair when you don't give visual cues like winks and such, for a young child.. My brother used to do that with my nieces and nephews, before he had kids of his own. He was totally deadpan, not even a smirk. The little ones didn't have any idea he was joking. Some of them started to avoid him because it was no fun for them. 



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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

Sounds like the parents have relatives and friends that are not so nice people. Who would tell a 5 YO that they are going to kidnap the baby?


 You have a point.  I've never said I'm going to kidnap someone's kid. 



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I agree with everyone. There have been times when DD was unable to tell if a person was teasing, like if it's someone she doesn't know well, but that is when I would step in and clue her in. Why are the parents just standing by and watching their daughter become panicked and upset?


 Yeah.  Why make a huge issue out of it?  What is wrong with just saying "oh, you know uncle ebeneezer is just teasing you".  I'm sure they don't expect her to break down in tears.



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There is nothing wrong with this kid. She is acting like any 5 year old would in this situation. It's the relatives. They probably aren't giving any visual or bodily cues that they are joking. And the one who laughed after making the kid cry sounds insane.


 No.  I've been around a ton of five year olds and they don't break out in tears from a little teasing--and if they do, they are way too sensitive.



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I did make a3 year old cry once. I told her that "Frozen" sucks.


I wasn't teasing, though. Just being truthful.

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I did make a3 year old cry once. I told her that "Frozen" sucks.


I wasn't teasing, though. Just being truthful.


Did you actually say 'sucks'?  LOL 



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I did make a3 year old cry once. I told her that "Frozen" sucks.


I wasn't teasing, though. Just being truthful.


Did you actually say 'sucks'?  LOL 


 And did you actually see the movie?



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I did say sucks. I did see the movie.

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That's two hours of my life wasted that I can never get back. And that song--simply dreadful.

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I did say sucks. I did see the movie.


You make me laugh! 



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Some children are just more sensitive than others. Some use their tears to get their way. Some adults are just mean to children, and seem to enjoy it.

The parents should be stepping in sooner when they can see their daughter start to get upset. Let her know what they are doing.

I don't know about all schools, but I think my boys are being taught (in school, not by me) that "teasing" is not a nice thing to do. Knowing this I "joke" and "kid" with my boys. Same thing, but they don't associate my "kidding" as something that is not nice. And I usually raise an eyebrow, or do something that lets them know I'm joking and they get a kick out of it. If someone "teased" my boys in a mean way, I would let the boys know they were teasing and let them handle it the way they are learning to handle when people are not nice to them. If I thought it was a harmless tease, I would let the boys know it was a prank and they'd have fun with it.

It doesn't sound like the LW's relatives are teasing in a good way, if they go on and on to the point of bringing her to tears. I agree with the advice given.

And I have said when something "sucks" in front of the boys. I try not to, but sometimes it just comes out. They aren't traumatized, even when it involves something they like.

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I agree with you FNW. (Twice now in one day! I'm on a roll.) SS's school is teaching them the same thing. Sometimes I think it's good and sometimes I think we're now raising a generation of sissies that can't take a joke. I am not talking about saying mean things disguised as a joke even. We are constantly working with SS to recognize appropriate humor and non appropriate humor.

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I agree with you FNW. (Twice now in one day! I'm on a roll.) SS's school is teaching them the same thing. Sometimes I think it's good and sometimes I think we're now raising a generation of sissies that can't take a joke. I am not talking about saying mean things disguised as a joke even. We are constantly working with SS to recognize appropriate humor and non appropriate humor.


 But I don't see anything overtly "mean" in the described scenarios.  The fact she is about to burst into tears over what was presented in the letter is ridiculous.



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I don't either. I thought they said someone said they would kidnap her brother but they just said they would take him. I've often said that to a five year old when visiting a new baby. Jokingly said, "Can I take your new brother home?" Most kids know you're teasing. And I've probably told my SS that it's my bday cake and not his. Well actually, I have. Our bdays are one day apart. We DO usually share a cake.

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I don't either. I thought they said someone said they would kidnap her brother but they just said they would take him. I've often said that to a five year old when visiting a new baby. Jokingly said, "Can I take your new brother home?" Most kids know you're teasing. And I've probably told my SS that it's my bday cake and not his. Well actually, I have. Our bdays are one day apart. We DO usually share a cake.


 I think it is all in the tone & body language.  And it sounds like the relatives didn't stop at saying it once.



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I don't think there was anything wrong either, if they had said it once or twice. But it sounds like they kept haranguing, even after it was obvious she didn't think it was funny.

Children at age 5 do not know how to handle situations that make them angry. Even at (almost) 7, my boys tell me things others say and I try to help my boys handle themselves in those situations with other children who "tease" them, by giving them one-liner comebacks, etc. I also tell them they need to learn to not let words bother them unless it makes them feel they are in danger of being hurt.

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My nephew has no sense of humor. I said something teasing to him once, and he looked at me like I had 2 heads. I said, "I was joking, honey." His response? "It wasn't funny" said in all seriousness as if he was chastising me. It was all I could do not to laugh like crazy.



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So... Lexxy and FNW, let's say that is true and that the people kept on. Wouldn't that lie on the parents to put a stop to it? I don't understand why they are saying this five year old's feelings are soooooooo fragile and yet they expect her to be mature enough to put a stop to it.

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My nephew has no sense of humor. I said something teasing to him once, and he looked at me like I had 2 heads. I said, "I was joking, honey." His response? "It wasn't funny" said in all seriousness as if he was chastising me. It was all I could do not to laugh like crazy.



-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Monday 15th of June 2015 03:17:38 PM


 This is pretty much my SS.  He gets all butt hurt and goes in his room and pouts.  Funny thing is he loves to tease other people.



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So... Lexxy and FNW, let's say that is true and that the people kept on. Wouldn't that lie on the parents to put a stop to it? I don't understand why they are saying this five year old's feelings are soooooooo fragile and yet they expect her to be mature enough to put a stop to it.


 Yes, it would be the parents' job to step in.  It sounds like they have tried to steer the conversation, but wanted advice as to how to properly alert the adults to prevent it in the future.  Speaking from experience with a mean sMIL who seems to find pleasure "teasing" (i.e., insulting) my boys despite my efforts to get her to stop, I'm not sure she can.  



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I have had to stop people from saying truly hurtful things to my kids. I wasn't any where near PC or polite about it either.

There is a difference between playful teasing and being mean
Generally, I think we know what that difference is.

I will say this, we don't have a lot of information about the child. When Jesse was little, he was easier to upset because he didn't understand the social cues. So some one teasing him about taking a sibling home, well, he would have believed them.

But that is where I had to step in and help him see it was a joke.

You know the "got your nose" game you play with kids? He would freak out and cry over that game. Because he believed it.

Now I am not saying anything is wrong other than this little family isn't doing what they all need to do. Just that after I thought about it, maybe there is more to this.

Either way, mom and dad has a lot of work to do.

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I did make a3 year old cry once. I told her that "Frozen" sucks.


I wasn't teasing, though. Just being truthful.


Did you actually say 'sucks'?  LOL 


 And did you actually see the movie?


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