TOTALLY GEEKED!

I think the end was choreographed. The "pedophile" was told the cops were being called, yet he stayed. He didn't run off so I think that ending is BS.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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I think it odd as well that the whole video only ONCE did it show her saying something to a woman. Although still not completely safe, my girls are taught to ask other MOTHERS for help, not random men.

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Yes, exactly LL.  People can scream "sexism" if they want, but I always told my kids to go ask a lady for help and not a man if they were lost.    

huskerbb wrote:

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Most people are not pedophiles. This video was staged and contrived to feed into our paranoid delusions.

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 I think so too. Propaganda claiming to be an experiment.

FNW wrote:

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I'm calling BS, too, because when the guy said he knew her she didn't say anything. If it were real and this strange guy grabbed her, wouldn't she scream or something? Also, why is it no one seemed to notice they were being filmed.

I have traveled alone and I have asked strangers for directions, etc., in many cities all over the world (Paris, Kyoto, London, DC). Everyone I talked to were helpful and nice. Sure, I'm not 10, but even so, there's a difference between being cautious and being paranoid. I have instructed my boys if we were ever separated, to find a police officer or store clerk, and I have them memorize my cell number. When they go on field trips, I slip my number into their pockets, JIC.

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It's possible that she didn't scream because she (as an actress) knew she was not really alone or in danger. 

 

If the final scene with the pedophile was not staged, it's possible the guy didn't run because (1) he might not be capable of running, (2) he would certainly be caught by one of the other men who were protecting the girl.

More likely though, when challenged, he would have said something like, "Oh, she looks just like one of my neighbor's kids, and i saw the neighbor a minute ago just up the street.

My mistake. " and then walked away.

 

What ten yr old DOESNT know their phone number or address?

Perhaps one that isn't ever allowed to go anywhere without mom or dad.

By ten, my kids knew how to get home from anywhere in our home town. They knew phone numbers, and names of a lot of family and friends and they knew to find a police officer if they needed help.

The only thing this video proves is that we as a society of parents as a whole, are not equipping our children with the skills they need.

But that's what makes it stupid and a failed experiment.

Oh and even with that, it took going through 15-20 people to "get to the one bad guy". And that seemed staged.

So what was the point?

With enough manipulation, you too can be a victim of a crime?

Not real sure what they hoped to accomplish with this little experiment.

Yeah. It really doesn't do anything for any reason.

What was the purpose of it?

This is similar to a "What Would You Do" episode.

In that episode, they had a lot of people ignoring a little kid who was crying on a busy shopping street in (I think) Brooklyn.

Most of the people completely ignored her. A few were helpful.

Eventually, to spice it up, they had a male actor try to lure her away.

She was yelling "You're not my Dad" as he picked her up, and still, a lot of people just watched as the guy dragged her away.

Until someone took action.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I thought it was interesting and thought provoking. I have a right to think that. So you don't like it. I did.

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 I'm not saying you dont.

But you posted it and we can comment on it.

Am I wrong to think that way?

Well it provoked thought.

I just don't think it got the response it was intending.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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It could be totally one hundred percent staged. I don't really care either way. It's things like this that give me the opportunity to discuss this stuff with kids.

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 What kids?

Other than your SS, aren't your kids as old or older than mine?

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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It could be totally one hundred percent staged. I don't really care either way. It's things like this that give me the opportunity to discuss this stuff with kids.

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 What kids?

Other than your SS, aren't your kids as old or older than mine?

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 Why are you always so worried about my kids and their info?  You're always asking for their ages and info on them.  It's kind of creepy.

And really, unless a person is in child care or has young children of their own, who would they be talking to about this stuff?

I get neices, nephews, young family members a kids of friends.

But a 10 yr old should already know how to handle a situation like in the video. And I'd be willing to bet that most 10 year Olds today have their own phones now.

So it really begs the question, what were they trying to accomplish?

If you think educating your children about stuff stops at age ten you're delusional. I feel really sorry for you. When my best friend was twenty she was walking down a highway to get to another friends house. A man in a very nice car offered her a ride. She said no and he gave her his business card. Showed her his phone and said if she was needing a ride she could always call someone. She tucked the business card in her pocket because the nice guy in the suit and nice car was nice. He locked her in, drove her to a secluded spot, and raped her twice. When he was done he pushed her out of the car and she walked to a gas station and called the police. Apparently this guy had a history of doing stuff like this. They called him the Business Card Rapist. Nothing on the business card was true. They never found him.

If you think you can stop educating your children at ten good luck. I wish you the best but you're delusional.

DemoniaD wrote:

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This is semi-related and the story may generate some discussion. I was out shopping a few weeks ago, and noticed a dad that has trying to get through his shopping list with his son (approx. 8-9 years in age). After several detours to get the wandering child and a few calls out to him to come on while he dragged his feet behind whining about being there, the kid started to wonder off yet again, and the dad called out, "Ok, if you want to get kidnapped, but I can't promise you it will be a good time." The kid immediately came back, and for the next few minutes at least, kept up and didn't wander. I finished up in that area and moved on after that, so I don't know if it lasted the rest of the trip.

I will admit that I laughed a little on the inside at the seriousness with which he delivered the line. Any one have thoughts on how he handled it?

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 Now that sounds like something I would say.

If it works, it works.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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DemoniaD wrote:

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This is semi-related and the story may generate some discussion. I was out shopping a few weeks ago, and noticed a dad that has trying to get through his shopping list with his son (approx. 8-9 years in age). After several detours to get the wandering child and a few calls out to him to come on while he dragged his feet behind whining about being there, the kid started to wonder off yet again, and the dad called out, "Ok, if you want to get kidnapped, but I can't promise you it will be a good time." The kid immediately came back, and for the next few minutes at least, kept up and didn't wander. I finished up in that area and moved on after that, so I don't know if it lasted the rest of the trip.

I will admit that I laughed a little on the inside at the seriousness with which he delivered the line. Any one have thoughts on how he handled it?

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 Ask Lily.  She knows everything.  And most people here disagree with me so...

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 Oh good Lord.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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If you think educating your children about stuff stops at age ten you're delusional. I feel really sorry for you. When my best friend was twenty she was walking down a highway to get to another friends house. A man in a very nice car offered her a ride. She said no and he gave her his business card. Showed her his phone and said if she was needing a ride she could always call someone. She tucked the business card in her pocket because the nice guy in the suit and nice car was nice. He locked her in, drove her to a secluded spot, and raped her twice. When he was done he pushed her out of the car and she walked to a gas station and called the police. Apparently this guy had a history of doing stuff like this. They called him the Business Card Rapist. Nothing on the business card was true. They never found him.

If you think you can stop educating your children at ten good luck. I wish you the best but you're delusional.

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 Ummm... ok.

So a 20 something friend of yours got in the car with a stranger but I'm crazy for thinking a 10 yr old these days would have a cell phone or know to go to a police officer or store clerk? 

Ok. Whatever.

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 I seriously doubt that a twenty year old today would not have a cell phone.  

 

Look, people do get hurt, raped, kidnapped or whatever by strangers--but it's not common.

huskerbb wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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If you think educating your children about stuff stops at age ten you're delusional. I feel really sorry for you. When my best friend was twenty she was walking down a highway to get to another friends house. A man in a very nice car offered her a ride. She said no and he gave her his business card. Showed her his phone and said if she was needing a ride she could always call someone. She tucked the business card in her pocket because the nice guy in the suit and nice car was nice. He locked her in, drove her to a secluded spot, and raped her twice. When he was done he pushed her out of the car and she walked to a gas station and called the police. Apparently this guy had a history of doing stuff like this. They called him the Business Card Rapist. Nothing on the business card was true. They never found him.

If you think you can stop educating your children at ten good luck. I wish you the best but you're delusional.

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 Ummm... ok.

So a 20 something friend of yours got in the car with a stranger but I'm crazy for thinking a 10 yr old these days would have a cell phone or know to go to a police officer or store clerk? 

Ok. Whatever.

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 I seriously doubt that a twenty year old today would not have a cell phone.  

 

Look, people do get hurt, raped, kidnapped or whatever by strangers--but it's not common.

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 I know, right? Of course that 20 something should have been taught at 10 not to get in the car with a stranger. 

Parenting 101 right there.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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What you do is get one of go camera, put it on the kid. Stream the video to a computer to document everything. Of course that's for the very rare possibility they may be out of your sight for 20 seconds.

And don't forget the tracker chip. Got to get one of those for the kid.

Let's do all of that instead of teaching our kids to be independent and able to handle situations.

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 You forgot the loaded gun...

flan

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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If you think educating your children about stuff stops at age ten you're delusional. I feel really sorry for you. When my best friend was twenty she was walking down a highway to get to another friends house. A man in a very nice car offered her a ride. She said no and he gave her his business card. Showed her his phone and said if she was needing a ride she could always call someone. She tucked the business card in her pocket because the nice guy in the suit and nice car was nice. He locked her in, drove her to a secluded spot, and raped her twice. When he was done he pushed her out of the car and she walked to a gas station and called the police. Apparently this guy had a history of doing stuff like this. They called him the Business Card Rapist. Nothing on the business card was true. They never found him.

If you think you can stop educating your children at ten good luck. I wish you the best but you're delusional.

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 Ummm... ok.

So a 20 something friend of yours got in the car with a stranger but I'm crazy for thinking a 10 yr old these days would have a cell phone or know to go to a police officer or store clerk? 

Ok. Whatever.

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 I seriously doubt that a twenty year old today would not have a cell phone.  

 

Look, people do get hurt, raped, kidnapped or whatever by strangers--but it's not common.

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 I know, right? Of course that 20 something should have been taught at 10 not to get in the car with a stranger. 

Parenting 101 right there.

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 Yes Lily, it's all the parents fault.  They were bad parents unlike you who is perfect.

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 I thought in a small town, you trusted everybody.

flan

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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If you think educating your children about stuff stops at age ten you're delusional. I feel really sorry for you. When my best friend was twenty she was walking down a highway to get to another friends house. A man in a very nice car offered her a ride. She said no and he gave her his business card. Showed her his phone and said if she was needing a ride she could always call someone. She tucked the business card in her pocket because the nice guy in the suit and nice car was nice. He locked her in, drove her to a secluded spot, and raped her twice. When he was done he pushed her out of the car and she walked to a gas station and called the police. Apparently this guy had a history of doing stuff like this. They called him the Business Card Rapist. Nothing on the business card was true. They never found him.

If you think you can stop educating your children at ten good luck. I wish you the best but you're delusional.

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 Ummm... ok.

So a 20 something friend of yours got in the car with a stranger but I'm crazy for thinking a 10 yr old these days would have a cell phone or know to go to a police officer or store clerk? 

Ok. Whatever.

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 I seriously doubt that a twenty year old today would not have a cell phone.  

 

Look, people do get hurt, raped, kidnapped or whatever by strangers--but it's not common.

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 This was about thirty years ago so yes, today a 20 year would have a phone.  DH has a pedophile in his family.  He has sexually abused children.  I have one in my family that has sexually abused children.  I know the stats.  I know reality.  I am familiar with how life REALLY works first hand.  However, to pretend like there aren't bad people out there in the world because most of it happens by people we know is ridiculous.  Things still happen.

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 What was 30 years ago?

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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If you think educating your children about stuff stops at age ten you're delusional. I feel really sorry for you. When my best friend was twenty she was walking down a highway to get to another friends house. A man in a very nice car offered her a ride. She said no and he gave her his business card. Showed her his phone and said if she was needing a ride she could always call someone. She tucked the business card in her pocket because the nice guy in the suit and nice car was nice. He locked her in, drove her to a secluded spot, and raped her twice. When he was done he pushed her out of the car and she walked to a gas station and called the police. Apparently this guy had a history of doing stuff like this. They called him the Business Card Rapist. Nothing on the business card was true. They never found him.

If you think you can stop educating your children at ten good luck. I wish you the best but you're delusional.

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 Ummm... ok.

So a 20 something friend of yours got in the car with a stranger but I'm crazy for thinking a 10 yr old these days would have a cell phone or know to go to a police officer or store clerk? 

Ok. Whatever.

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 I seriously doubt that a twenty year old today would not have a cell phone.  

 

Look, people do get hurt, raped, kidnapped or whatever by strangers--but it's not common.

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 This was about thirty years ago so yes, today a 20 year would have a phone.  DH has a pedophile in his family.  He has sexually abused children.  I have one in my family that has sexually abused children.  I know the stats.  I know reality.  I am familiar with how life REALLY works first hand.  However, to pretend like there aren't bad people out there in the world because most of it happens by people we know is ridiculous.  Things still happen.

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 Really?  How many children are kidnapped by strangers in a year in the US?  What age and gender are the majority of them?

lilyofcourse wrote:

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 You know there's a balance right?  You can teach your kids to be watchful and safe without being paranoid.  It's not an either or situation.  It's not let them run wild and free or microchip them and track them by GPS.

And my friend was taught.  We sat together in class when the police brought us the McGruff stranger danger pictures to color.  The ones husker correctly says don't work.  Her parents did teach her.  I was over there a lot.  Sometimes you can teach your kids and still stuff happens.  Tell me Lily, how well did teaching your daughter not to have premarital sex work out for you?

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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 Well someone failed. 

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 You know there's a balance right?  You can teach your kids to be watchful and safe without being paranoid.  It's not an either or situation.  It's not let them run wild and free or microchip them and track them by GPS.

And my friend was taught.  We sat together in class when the police brought us the McGruff stranger danger pictures to color.  The ones husker correctly says don't work.  Her parents did teach her.  I was over there a lot.  Sometimes you can teach your kids and still stuff happens.  Tell me Lily, how well did teaching your daughter not to have premarital sex work out for you?

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 Ok then.

You want to try to agitate me. Whatever.