So I just heard this on a local news channel. Looked for an article but couldn't find the one they were talking about.
But the gist of it was, Freedom From Religion is a tempting to get the tax exempt status of religious organizations revoked in order to force them to accept same sex couples.
I don't know the details, but the hope is that it will include churches and force ministers to perform same sex marriages.
I'm still looking for the article. If any one finds it, please post it.
Thoughts on the subject?
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And I'm not real sure they are leading this or just part of it.
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I'm on the fence about this one. If you want tax exempt status, you must follow their rules. I do not want the government telling my church what they can and cannot do. And when they hold the purse strings, that's exactly what happens....
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Churches are just another "business" Why should they be exempt?
Churches are not businesses - they are charitable organizations. Much of the money is used to help the poor and needy.
And the problem you have is that many churches are very small and barely get by. If the government were to tax them, they would not be able to afford to be. And THAT would be an infringemnt on freedom of religion. Churches don't have profit, they use the money for the church and for charity. If you take away their tax exempt status - you would have to take away everyone's tax exempt status, ESPECIALLY non-profit political organizations.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So, take the charitable contribution write off like the rest.
Plenty of businesses are small and barely get by.
Plenty of religious folks don't want their tax dollars used for things they don't believe in. Why should MY tax dollars support what I don't believe in.
Churches don't pay or receive tax of any kind. None that I am aware of.
So how would your taxes be supporting a church if you don't believe in it?
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
So, take the charitable contribution write off like the rest.
Plenty of businesses are small and barely get by.
Plenty of religious folks don't want their tax dollars used for things they don't believe in. Why should MY tax dollars support what I don't believe in.
Churches don't get your federal or state dollars so how are your tax dollars supporting it?
And that goes the other way, too - why should church members money given to churches be forced to pay taxes and support things they don't believe in?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Churches are just another "business" Why should they be exempt?
Churches are not businesses - they are charitable organizations. Much of the money is used to help the poor and needy.
And the problem you have is that many churches are very small and barely get by. If the government were to tax them, they would not be able to afford to be. And THAT would be an infringemnt on freedom of religion. Churches don't have profit, they use the money for the church and for charity. If you take away their tax exempt status - you would have to take away everyone's tax exempt status, ESPECIALLY non-profit political organizations.
I have seen the annual budgets of quite a few churches. Most of the money goes to facilities upkeep/utilities and salaries. Very little of the actual monies collected in the collection plates goes to charities. The money that DOES go to charities is often collected in a separate offering earmarked specifically for that charity. Sunday offerings are used for the upkeep of the church - let's be honest.
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don't care whether they're struggling or not, successful or not, big or small--if their specific purpose and function is to worship and minister then they are and ought to be exempt from taxation--don't care if they're a church, mosque, temple, etc.--separation of church and state is fundamental to this country and it will remain so
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don't care whether they're struggling or not, successful or not, big or small--if their specific purpose and function is to worship and minister then they are and ought to be exempt from taxation--don't care if they're a church, mosque, temple, etc.--separation of church and state is fundamental to this country and it will remain so
Not if some have their way.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
That's a good point, though. If younwantb separation of church and state, then they should be tax exempt. If you want churches to pay taxes, then they should have a say in how tax dollars are spent.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
That's a good point, though. If younwantb separation of church and state, then they should be tax exempt. If you want churches to pay taxes, then they should have a say in how tax dollars are spent.
Do YOU have a say on how your tax dollars are spent? That's just ridiculous.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
That's a good point, though. If younwantb separation of church and state, then they should be tax exempt. If you want churches to pay taxes, then they should have a say in how tax dollars are spent.
Do YOU have a say on how your tax dollars are spent? That's just ridiculous.
???? Don't you vote? Talk to your congressman? Businesses lobby--and don't think for a sexond they don't have influence.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
That's a good point, though. If younwantb separation of church and state, then they should be tax exempt. If you want churches to pay taxes, then they should have a say in how tax dollars are spent.
Do YOU have a say on how your tax dollars are spent? That's just ridiculous.
???? Don't you vote? Talk to your congressman? Businesses lobby--and don't think for a sexond they don't have influence.
And how does a church go about that?
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
That's a good point, though. If younwantb separation of church and state, then they should be tax exempt. If you want churches to pay taxes, then they should have a say in how tax dollars are spent.
Do YOU have a say on how your tax dollars are spent? That's just ridiculous.
???? Don't you vote? Talk to your congressman? Businesses lobby--and don't think for a sexond they don't have influence.
And how does a church go about that?
If their dollars are going to the government, then the line between church and state is blurred, and churches would have A good argument for things like prayer in schools, further restricting abortions, etc...
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
These are tax exempt gay and lesbian groups and I don't agree with what they are promoting - so they shouldn't be tax exempt, either.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Planned Parenthood is tax exempt AND gets direct government support--and I certainly don't agree with what they are doing seeing as how they are highly racist and all. Yet my tax dollars support them.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
well, am not well-informed about planned parenthood so will leave that to others but is some of the above noted homosexual organizations try to claim exemptions under the aegis or guise of " freedom of religion " then I would want to see the literature from ANY recognized, legitimate religion on this planet that actively supports and condones homosexuality
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You know what church pays to the state? The church of England.
And America was colonized to get away from the reach of the church.
So should the churches be taxed? Cause I gotta tell ya, between the Methodists, Baptists and Church of God, not to mention the Catholic and Mormon, prayer would not only be in school, the Bible would be part of the curriculum. Along with a whole other host of things the secular world don't want.
No abortion, no divorce, no Sunday anything.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
And you can bet your life there would be no gay anything.
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