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On Tuesday, President Obama signed an agreement that equates to a $1,300 impact on every family in America — one of the largest stimulus packages in history.

The only problem is that this money is not going to help put food on the table of struggling Americans. In fact, quite the opposite. This money is the $150 billion signing bonus that the Obama administration is giving Iran as part of the nuclear deal. And what is worse, National Security Adviser Susan Rice said on Wednesday’s Situation Room on CNN, “We should expect” that some of the money Iran gets as a part of the nuclear deal “would go to the Iranian military and could potentially be used for the kinds of bad behavior that we have seen in the region.”

So let me get this straight. Obama’s economic and foreign policy is the following:

  1. Tax the wealthy so he can give to the poor — so everything is more “fair”
  2. But then, not really give a large portion of that money to the poor, but instead give a gift almost equal to their annual GDP to the largest financier of terrorism in the world who exclaims death to American and promises to destroy Israel
  3. Finally, Obama then sends the young men and women of these families (many of which are very poor and could have really benefited from that money) over to the Middle East to fight a war for which he has publicly stated he has no “strategy,” against an enemy he will not even name, with a significantly reduced military budget.

Does this guy have any clue what he is doing? It is no wonder today Americans from both sides of the political spectrum, rich and poor, old and young blasted this ludicrous policy. As Senator

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stated on The Kelly File Wednesday, the Iran “Jihadist Stimulus Bill,” will wake the US the “Leading Financier of Terrorism Against America.”

 

Senator Cruz’ comments highlight the level of concern Americans have with the current direction of the country. America doesn’t just want change. American wants Oblimination – the complete reversal of President Obama’s failed policies

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/16/obama-agrees-to-massive-stimulus-plan-for-iran/



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I was told that this money was already Iran's money

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Told by whom?

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I was discussing it with a co-worker. And then I googled some articles and I guess it depends on where you're looking, some were convinced that he's giving it away and some were convinced it's already theirs.

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The Obama administration on Wednesday paid $490 million in cash assets to Iran and will have released a total of $11.9 billion to the Islamic Republic by the time nuclear talks are scheduled to end in June, according to figures provided by the State Department.

Today’s $490 million release, the third such payment of this amount since Dec. 10, was agreed to by the Obama administration under the parameters of another extension in negotiations over Tehran’s contested nuclear program that was inked in November.

Iran will receive a total of $4.9 billion in unfrozen cash assets via 10 separate payments by the United States through June 22, when talks with Iran are scheduled to end with a final agreement aimed at curbing the country’s nuclear work, according to a State Department official.

Iran received $4.2 billion in similar payments under the 2013 interim agreement with the United States and was then given another $2.8 billion by the Obama administration last year in a bid to keep Iran committed to the talks through November, when negotiators parted ways without reaching an agreement.

Iran will have received a total of $11.9 billion in cash assets by the end of June if current releases continue on pace as scheduled.

The release of this money has drawn outrage from some Republican lawmakers who filed legislation last year to prevent the release of cash due to a lack of restrictions on how Iran can spend the money.

These cash payments by the United States have been made with no strings attached, prompting concerns that Iran could use the funds to finance its worldwide terror operations, which include the financial backing of Hamas, Hezbollah, and other rogue entities.

Senators—including Mark Kirk (R., Ill.), Kelly Ayotte (R., N.H.), and John Cornyn (R., Texas)—sought last year to put a hold on the cash infusions until the White House could certify that Iran was not using the money to support terrorism.

Kirk, who is preparing to offer legislation that would tighten sanctions on Iran, said that the ongoing payments could help Iran fuel its terror empire well into the near future.

“Between November 2014 and July 2015, the interim deal’s direct forms of sanctions relief will allow Iran access to roughly $4.9 billion in frozen money,” Kirk told the Washington Free Beacon “That’s equal to what it’d cost Iran to fund Hezbollah for as much as 50 years.”



The Pentagon estimates Iran has spent $100 to $200 million per year funding Hezbollah.

Entities likely to receive support from Iran include the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and the regime of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, the legislation suggests.

When final negotiations between the United States and Iran failed in November, negotiators decided once more to extend the talks through June of this year. The terms of that extension granted Iran the 10 payments of $490 million, a State Department official said.

“With respect to sanctions relief, the United States will enable the repatriation of $4.9 billion of Iranian revenue held abroad during the extension,” the official said.

The first two payments were made in December, followed by Wednesday’s payment.

The next release is scheduled for Feb. 11, with two more scheduled for March. The rest of the frozen cash assets will be given back to Iran on April 15, May 6, May 27, and June 22, respectively.

Mark Dubowitz, the executive director of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), said the ongoing release of these assets has provided Iran with a critical “financial lifeline.”

“The Obama administration provided Iran with a financial lifeline through both direct sanctions relief and the de-escalation of sanctions pressure that helped the regime stabilize its economy after a severe sanctions-induced economic crisis in 2012 and 2013,” Dubowitz said. “It is not a surprise that this has increased Iranian negotiating leverage and hardened the supreme leader’s nuclear intransigence.”

In addition to decrying the lack of restrictions in place to ensure that Iran does not use the released funds to sponsor terrorism, critics of the sanctions relief protest that Iran is benefitting while the United States receives little in return.

Iran has continued to enrich uranium under the interim deal, adding what one critic, Rep. Brad Sherman (D., Calif.) referred to as “about one bomb’s worth” to its reserves.

Iran also has continued to make advances on the plutonium track, which provides it with a second path to a nuclear bomb.

President Hassan Rouhani of Iran announced last week that the country has begun constructing two new light water nuclear reactors, a move that the U.S. State Department said is permissible under the terms of the interim agreement.
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www.moaablogs.org/battleofthebilge/2015/03/obama-iran-talks/

That's just one that I found. I'm not disputing your article, I'm just saying I got a different perspective this morning so I thought I would look it up. This is why I hate politics, it's hard to know the difference between truth and lies.

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Oh, so the funds are theirs and of course the USA was just keeping it safe for them and no money is coming from taxpayers? Uh huh.

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Is there any theory under which it is a "good idea" to infuse cash into Iran?

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www.moaablogs.org/battleofthebilge/2015/03/obama-iran-talks/

That's just one that I found. I'm not disputing your article, I'm just saying I got a different perspective this morning so I thought I would look it up. This is why I hate politics, it's hard to know the difference between truth and lies.


 So what?  That's the point of sanctions--to try to get them to do what you want, namely to not develop nukes.



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I was told that this money was already Iran's money


You understood correctly. Obama is unfreezing Iran's cash assets. It's already their money. 



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Is there any theory under which it is a "good idea" to infuse cash into Iran?


 



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Is there any theory under which it is a "good idea" to infuse cash into Iran?


 


 I love that you quoted yourself...lol. There is no theory in which this is a good idea!



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Anyone remember Neville Chamberlain?

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Where is the head banging emoticon?

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How does Iran have that kind of cash already in assets?

I call a big stinking pile of BS.

If people STILL want to deny that Obama is no friend of America, well, there is no hope left.

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I was told that this money was already Iran's money


You understood correctly. Obama is unfreezing Iran's cash assets. It's already their money. 


And they are laughing their asses off.  You think they really tend to abide by this treaty? They treated John Kerry like the slime he is. I hope Congress votes this down.  Da Fuhrer cannot just willy nilly make treaties.  



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What's coming next? I bet there is going to be talk of EVERY country start backing down defense weapons. I'll go farther and say I bet talk starts about gathering a central cache of weaponry. You know, for fairness.

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Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
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I was told that this money was already Iran's money


You understood correctly. Obama is unfreezing Iran's cash assets. It's already their money. 


And they are laughing their asses off.  You think they really tend to abide by this treaty? They treated John Kerry like the slime he is. I hope Congress votes this down.  Da Fuhrer cannot just willy nilly make treaties.  


 I said nothing about the treaty, one way or the other. I was merely addressing the FACT that Iran has had more than 100 billion dollars in assets frozen by Carter in 1979. The interwebs are awash in paranoid hysteria that Obama is stealing taxpayer money to give to Iran.



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weltschmerz wrote:
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I was told that this money was already Iran's money


You understood correctly. Obama is unfreezing Iran's cash assets. It's already their money. 


And they are laughing their asses off.  You think they really tend to abide by this treaty? They treated John Kerry like the slime he is. I hope Congress votes this down.  Da Fuhrer cannot just willy nilly make treaties.  


 I said nothing about the treaty, one way or the other. I was merely addressing the FACT that Iran has had more than 100 billion dollars in assets frozen by Carter in 1979. The interwebs are awash in paranoid hysteria that Obama is stealing taxpayer money to give to Iran.


He's a total idiot (no surprise) for releasing them... 



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Ohfour wrote:
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I was told that this money was already Iran's money


You understood correctly. Obama is unfreezing Iran's cash assets. It's already their money. 


And they are laughing their asses off.  You think they really tend to abide by this treaty? They treated John Kerry like the slime he is. I hope Congress votes this down.  Da Fuhrer cannot just willy nilly make treaties.  


 I said nothing about the treaty, one way or the other. I was merely addressing the FACT that Iran has had more than 100 billion dollars in assets frozen by Carter in 1979. The interwebs are awash in paranoid hysteria that Obama is stealing taxpayer money to give to Iran.


He's a total idiot (no surprise) for releasing them... 


 Regardless, Obama is NOT "stealing $1,300 from every family in America".



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Not right now. But give it a week.

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weltschmerz wrote:
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I was told that this money was already Iran's money


You understood correctly. Obama is unfreezing Iran's cash assets. It's already their money. 


And they are laughing their asses off.  You think they really tend to abide by this treaty? They treated John Kerry like the slime he is. I hope Congress votes this down.  Da Fuhrer cannot just willy nilly make treaties.  


 I said nothing about the treaty, one way or the other. I was merely addressing the FACT that Iran has had more than 100 billion dollars in assets frozen by Carter in 1979. The interwebs are awash in paranoid hysteria that Obama is stealing taxpayer money to give to Iran.


 

 

       Is there any theory under which it is a "good idea" to infuse cash into Iran?

 

 

 

 



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So, my theory is that Obama doesn't feel he has done enough damage to America during his time in office, so he's doing this so that Iran can keep up the destruction after he's gone.

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Obama is going on vacation. He's worked hard this week ensuring that Iran can get nuclear weapons and what not.

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lord, he's abandoned one of our strongest allies in the region--no matter--the Israelis will handle the situation if needs be

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Israel will be striking soon.

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weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
VetteGirl wrote:

I was told that this money was already Iran's money


You understood correctly. Obama is unfreezing Iran's cash assets. It's already their money. 


And they are laughing their asses off.  You think they really tend to abide by this treaty? They treated John Kerry like the slime he is. I hope Congress votes this down.  Da Fuhrer cannot just willy nilly make treaties.  


 I said nothing about the treaty, one way or the other. I was merely addressing the FACT that Iran has had more than 100 billion dollars in assets frozen by Carter in 1979. The interwebs are awash in paranoid hysteria that Obama is stealing taxpayer money to give to Iran.


 Nailed it!

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He is frittered away more tax money than all Presidents combined but if you want to live in fantasy land then so be it.

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I don't care if it was their money - we have spent more than that on them, we should not be giving it back.

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the money is secondary--the main issue ( as obama and kerry have now shown the world ) is that we have backed down--he has truly made us a paper tiger

the ramifications of this administration's weakness / vacillations / corruptions will hurt us for many years to come and pose direct danger to our allies in the region

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