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Christian bakers who refused to make lesbian couple a wedding cake are given record $370,000 by online supporters - double the amount they were fined in court

  • Melissa and Aaron Klein, of Sweet Cakes by Melissa in Oregon, raised $372,000 on faith-based crowd source platform Continue To Give 
  • The site's founder said it is the most money raised for an individual fundraiser in it's three-year history 
  • The Kleins were ordered to pay $135,000 in damages to Laurel and Rachel Bowman-Cryer last month 
  • They were found to have discriminated against the lesbian couple by refusing to make them a wedding cake in January 2013
  • The couple had already raised $109,000 on GoFundMe before the site shut down their page

By Daily Mail Reporters

Published: 09:49 EST, 18 July 2015 | Updated: 15:02 EST, 18 July 2015

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The owners of a Portland-area bakery who refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple and were ordered to pay them $135,000 have since raised more than $300,000. 

Aaron and Melissa Klein, the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa, have raised $372,000 in two months after they were ordered to pay were ordered to pay $60,000 in damages to Laurel Bowman-Cryer and $75,000 in damages to Rachel Bowman-Cryer for emotional suffering.

The Kleins raised the money on the website Continue To Give, which calls itself a 'faith-based giving platform' for 'churches, missionaries, nonprofits, individuals and adopting parents'. 

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Melissa Klein (behind counter) of Sweet Cakes by Melissa has to pay a $135,000 fine after being found guilty of discriminating against a lesbian couple when she and her husband refused to make them a wedding cake
 
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Melissa Klein (behind counter) of Sweet Cakes by Melissa has to pay a $135,000 fine after being found guilty of discriminating against a lesbian couple when she and her husband refused to make them a wedding cake

Aaron and Melissa Klein, the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa, have raised $372,000 in two months on faith-based platform Continue To Give. It is a record-breaking amount for the site 
 
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Aaron and Melissa Klein, the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa, have raised $372,000 in two months on faith-based platform Continue To Give. It is a record-breaking amount for the site 

Founder Jesse Wellhoefer said the couple has raised a record-breaking amount of money, the most ever raised for an individual campaign in the site's three-year history. 

'Not only is our platform the perfect place for the Kleins to raise money, but we also appreciate the stand they are making for religious freedom,' he told NBC News. 

The Kleins shut down their bakery in 2013 following backlash after they refused to make the Bowman-Cryers a cake, arguing that it would be against their Christian beliefs to do so. 

On their fundraising page, the couple wrote that they have been 'struggling financially ever since they were forced to close the doors of their bakery' and said their income was 'cut in half'. 

Prior to setting up a page on Continue To Give, the couple had raised $109,000 with a GoFundMe campaign. 

The page was quickly shut down by the company as it involved 'formal charges' and thus violated the site's terms of service.    

Rachel Bowman-Cryer (right) and her wife Laurel (left) filed a civil rights lawsuit and said that they had suffered emotional distress because of the case after they received death threats
 
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Rachel Bowman-Cryer (right) and her wife Laurel (left) filed a civil rights lawsuit and said that they had suffered emotional distress because of the case after they received death threats

An administrative law court in Oregon ruled earlier this year against the Klein's defense that their constitutional right to expression of their religious beliefs superseded Oregon state law against discrimination
 
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An administrative law court in Oregon ruled earlier this year against the Klein's defense that their constitutional right to expression of their religious beliefs superseded Oregon state law against discrimination

Aaron Klein, pictured with wife Melissa, told The Blaze : 'He wants to silence anyone who opposes his point of view. Unfortunately, he's doing this with the wrong Christian, because I fight back'
 
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Aaron and melissa Klein have been told they must pay $135,000 in damages
 
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Aaron Klein, pictured here with wife Melissa, told The Blaze : 'He wants to silence anyone who opposes his point of view. Unfortunately, he's doing this with the wrong Christian, because I fight back'

After shutting down the couple's page, the company amended their terms to explicitly state that fundraising was not allowed for campaigns that were 'in defense of formal charges or claims of heinous crimes, violent, hateful, sexual or discriminatory acts.' 

The Klein's wrote on their Facebook that 'Satan's really at work' after their GoFundMe campaign was halted - but said the site would still allow them to receive the donated funds.

Christian organization Samaritan's Purse is also raising money for the couple, advertising their campaign with a page titled 'persecuted against US Christians on the rise'. 

The couple, who have five children, are planning to appeal the court's ruling and argue it is they who have been discriminated against by by Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian.

A GoFundMe page for the bakery started in April and raised more than $100,000 in eight hours for the Klein's legal expenses
 
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A GoFundMe page for the bakery started in April and raised more than $100,000 in eight hours for the Klein's legal expenses

The Bowman-Cryers said they were worried about losing their foster children, who they have since adopted,
 
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Oregon began allowing same sex marriage in May 2014 and the Bowman-Cryers married shortly after
 
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The Bowman-Cryers said they were worried about losing their foster children, who they have since adopted, after attention was brought to their marriage. Oregon began allowing same sex marriage in May 2014

Aaron Klein told The Blaze: 'He [Avakian] wants to silence anyone who opposes his point of view. Unfortunately, he's doing this with the wrong Christian, because I fight back.' 

'For years, we've heard same-sex marriage will not affect anybody. I'm here firsthand to tell everyone in America that it has already impacted people.' 

'Christians, get ready to take a stand. Get ready for civil disobedience.' 

Klein said he and his wife will 'request a stay' in an effort to delay the judge's order that they must pay damages to the two women.

The order will not be final until Avakian issues a final decision on the damages, which could include lowering or raising the amount. 

The Bowman-Cryers filed a civil rights suit in the case and said they had received death threats and were worried about losing their two foster children after the case received national attention.  

 
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That's awesome--but it can't last. It's going to be impossible to bail out everyone who stands up for their beliefs against oppression.

We need to make laws to protect such people.

It's ridiculous that freedom of religion is under attack--but here it is--and again, it IS the agenda of the liberals to destroy both freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Those two freedoms must apparently be sacrificed in order to give a few the right to diddle cornholes and muff dive.

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So they filed a stupid lawsuit claiming that they became bloated and had headaches when they got home from work all because they were denied a cake and NOW they're worried about the impact it might have on their family? Do these idiots ever think about anyone but themselves?

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So they filed a stupid lawsuit claiming that they became bloated and had headaches when they got home from work all because they were denied a cake and NOW they're worried about the impact it might have on their family? Do these idiots ever think about anyone but themselves?

Of course not.  Liberals never do except in the context of their narrative which everyone must submit to.   



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I wish I could be the sitting judge on some of these cases.

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So basically they are suing the bakery because they had PMS.



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lord, after looking at their " wedding / engagement " photos am suffering some gastric distress myself--maybe should sue the couple ?

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This is awesome. It is always the small mom & pop company that saves us in employment and setting what is right for this country.

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I love it....

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Well, where I live, being a protected class via ethnicity or sexual orientation or gender, trumps religious rights, because you have virtually no control over those things.

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I doesn't here...or it shouldn't. So do you think Muslims should be able to refuse to bake a baptism cake? Or a cake with a bible or cross on it?

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Our Federal laws protect religious affiliation...but not sexual orientation...



-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 18th of July 2015 10:53:51 PM

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I doesn't here...or it shouldn't. So do you think Muslims should be able to refuse to bake a baptism cake? Or a cake with a bible or cross on it?

No. It's just a cake. They're in the business of baking cakes. Or, again, they can bake a plain cake and the purchasers can decorate it any way they want.

If you don't want to accommodate the public, don't open a public business. If you do, you have to abide by any and all laws in place.

There was a Muslim barber here, he refused to cut the hair of a woman. She sued. Here's what makes it interesting....

He's Muslim and she's a lesbian. You don't seem to like either of them much. What to do, what to do?



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weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

I doesn't here...or it shouldn't. So do you think Muslims should be able to refuse to bake a baptism cake? Or a cake with a bible or cross on it?

No. It's just a cake. They're in the business of baking cakes. Or, again, they can bake a plain cake and the purchasers can decorate it any way they want.

If you don't want to accommodate the public, don't open a public business. If you do, you have to abide by any and all laws in place.

There was a Muslim barber here, he refused to cut the hair of a woman. She sued. Here's what makes it interesting....

He's Muslim and she's a lesbian. You don't seem to like either of them much. What to do, what to do?

Yet in another thread you would say that a Jewish caterer can refuse to cater a skinhead event.  HYPOCRITE. 

 

The Jewish caterer is in the business of catering.  They have a PUBLIC business.   



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huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

I doesn't here...or it shouldn't. So do you think Muslims should be able to refuse to bake a baptism cake? Or a cake with a bible or cross on it?

No. It's just a cake. They're in the business of baking cakes. Or, again, they can bake a plain cake and the purchasers can decorate it any way they want.

If you don't want to accommodate the public, don't open a public business. If you do, you have to abide by any and all laws in place.

There was a Muslim barber here, he refused to cut the hair of a woman. She sued. Here's what makes it interesting....

He's Muslim and she's a lesbian. You don't seem to like either of them much. What to do, what to do?

Yet in another thread you would say that a Jewish caterer can refuse to cater a skinhead event.  HYPOCRITE. 

 

The Jewish caterer is in the business of catering.  They have a PUBLIC business.   

 Lol! Where did I say that?



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weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

I doesn't here...or it shouldn't. So do you think Muslims should be able to refuse to bake a baptism cake? Or a cake with a bible or cross on it?

No. It's just a cake. They're in the business of baking cakes. Or, again, they can bake a plain cake and the purchasers can decorate it any way they want.

If you don't want to accommodate the public, don't open a public business. If you do, you have to abide by any and all laws in place.

There was a Muslim barber here, he refused to cut the hair of a woman. She sued. Here's what makes it interesting....

He's Muslim and she's a lesbian. You don't seem to like either of them much. What to do, what to do?

Yet in another thread you would say that a Jewish caterer can refuse to cater a skinhead event.  HYPOCRITE. 

 

The Jewish caterer is in the business of catering.  They have a PUBLIC business.   

 Lol! Where did I say that?

Here.  Same difference.

 

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Welts,
Should a black baker be forced to bake a cake for a KKK rally? I rally would like to hear your answer on that...

Nope. People aren't born Nazis. It's something they have control over. They choose to be Nazis, and therefore not a protected class.

 

 

 

However, if you want to stick to the Jewish caterer--then you may answer specifically to that.  



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Also, people CHOOSE to engage in homosexual behavior.

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weltschmerz wrote:

Well, where I live, being a protected class via ethnicity or sexual orientation or gender, trumps religious rights, because you have virtually no control over those things.

 Well, where I live freedom of religion is guaranteed in our Constitution. 

Freedom of speech is guaranteed in our Constitution. 

Bumping ugliest is not.

So the religion should trump sexual orientation. 



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Goes back to that right vs. privilege thing.

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