Dear Caitlin Jenner......being a female, I have never felt brave or courageous or under pressure to pick out my shoes or dress. Courage as a female, is facing your days with a bald head and battle scars from cancer. Courage as a female is carrying a child for 9 mos that you weren't planning on having. Courage as a female is being Mom & Dad to a child while putting food on the table because you are all that child has. Courage as a female is busting your butt to make it in a man's world. Courage as a female is to learn to walk out after you have been beaten by someone who "loves" you. We don't play dress up to feel brave, we are brave in our raw, authentic selves. You will find the most brave women in this world do not dress in the finest fashions adorned by jewels and make-up. They carry crowns of grey hair, wrinkles, tired bodies and weathered hands. Learn the difference. Sincerely, a real woman.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I don't understand why he was given an award for courage.
Ok. So maybe he did struggle with some inner whatever.
But it took money to do what he did. Not courage.
Courageous to me is doing something, surviving something against all odds.
Bruce had a little plastic surgery and put on a dress. That's not courageous, that's just life for him.
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I don't understand why he was given an award for courage.
Ok. So maybe he did struggle with some inner whatever.
But it took money to do what he did. Not courage.
Courageous to me is doing something, surviving something against all odds.
Bruce had a little plastic surgery and put on a dress. That's not courageous, that's just life for him.
Our Universal Healthcare pays for sexual reassignment. You don't even need money.
Soooooo....... where does the money come from?
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Do we mind paying taxes so women can afford daycare? So women get paid maternity leave? So everyone has access to healthcare? So everyone can get a higher education without taking out a second or third mortgage or getting saddled with absurd student loans?
Nope. We do not.
Do we mind paying taxes so women can afford daycare? So women get paid maternity leave? So everyone has access to healthcare? So everyone can get a higher education without taking out a second or third mortgage or getting saddled with absurd student loans? Nope. We do not.
Uhhh, paid maternity leave is up to the employers here. Higher education is not paid for by taxpayers, here. Part of the issue here is mindset - socialist vs. not. I actually do not want my tax dollars to go to most of what you talk about. That's not what taxes should be for. Taxes should be for police, fire, and basic education. Almost all the rest should be paid for based upon individual policies - not by the government.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I don't understand why he was given an award for courage.
Ok. So maybe he did struggle with some inner whatever.
But it took money to do what he did. Not courage.
Courageous to me is doing something, surviving something against all odds.
Bruce had a little plastic surgery and put on a dress. That's not courageous, that's just life for him.
Our Universal Healthcare pays for sexual reassignment. You don't even need money.
Soooooo....... where does the money come from?
Taxes. We get more than our money's worth. Healthcare and maternity leave and education and daycare; all covered by taxes.Works for us!
Wow. You seem to not know where tax money comes from.
How so? I know exactly where tax money comes from. It's not the tax fairy.
From your posts it seems like you think that's where it comes from. Everything's "free". No one has to pay for it. You don't even need money. Wheee!!!!
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Do we mind paying taxes so women can afford daycare? So women get paid maternity leave? So everyone has access to healthcare? So everyone can get a higher education without taking out a second or third mortgage or getting saddled with absurd student loans? Nope. We do not.
Uhhh, paid maternity leave is up to the employers here. Higher education is not paid for by taxpayers, here. Part of the issue here is mindset - socialist vs. not. I actually do not want my tax dollars to go to most of what you talk about. That's not what taxes should be for. Taxes should be for police, fire, and basic education. Almost all the rest should be paid for based upon individual policies - not by the government.
I don't understand why he was given an award for courage.
Ok. So maybe he did struggle with some inner whatever.
But it took money to do what he did. Not courage.
Courageous to me is doing something, surviving something against all odds.
Bruce had a little plastic surgery and put on a dress. That's not courageous, that's just life for him.
Our Universal Healthcare pays for sexual reassignment. You don't even need money.
Soooooo....... where does the money come from?
Taxes. We get more than our money's worth. Healthcare and maternity leave and education and daycare; all covered by taxes.Works for us!
Wow. You seem to not know where tax money comes from.
How so? I know exactly where tax money comes from. It's not the tax fairy.
From your posts it seems like you think that's where it comes from. Everything's "free". No one has to pay for it. You don't even need money. Wheee!!!!
I think that's the fifth time you're lying about my posts. Show me where I ever said anything even remotely close to that. I'll wait.
See. That's forcing someone to participate in something against their religion.
I now understand why you don't understand the difference between a right and a privilege.
-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Sunday 19th of July 2015 02:33:01 PM
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
I don't understand why he was given an award for courage.
Ok. So maybe he did struggle with some inner whatever.
But it took money to do what he did. Not courage.
Courageous to me is doing something, surviving something against all odds.
Bruce had a little plastic surgery and put on a dress. That's not courageous, that's just life for him.
Our Universal Healthcare pays for sexual reassignment. You don't even need money.
Soooooo....... where does the money come from?
Taxes. We get more than our money's worth. Healthcare and maternity leave and education and daycare; all covered by taxes.Works for us!
Wow. You seem to not know where tax money comes from.
How so? I know exactly where tax money comes from. It's not the tax fairy.
From your posts it seems like you think that's where it comes from. Everything's "free". No one has to pay for it. You don't even need money. Wheee!!!!
You're being selective in your reading Husker. You know that Welz is talking about not having to pay additional thousands of dollars out of pocket.
I don't understand why he was given an award for courage.
Ok. So maybe he did struggle with some inner whatever.
But it took money to do what he did. Not courage.
Courageous to me is doing something, surviving something against all odds.
Bruce had a little plastic surgery and put on a dress. That's not courageous, that's just life for him.
Our Universal Healthcare pays for sexual reassignment. You don't even need money.
Soooooo....... where does the money come from?
Taxes. We get more than our money's worth. Healthcare and maternity leave and education and daycare; all covered by taxes.Works for us!
Wow. You seem to not know where tax money comes from.
How so? I know exactly where tax money comes from. It's not the tax fairy.
From your posts it seems like you think that's where it comes from. Everything's "free". No one has to pay for it. You don't even need money. Wheee!!!!
You're being selective in your reading Husker. You know that Welz is talking about not having to pay additional thousands of dollars out of pocket.
I do wish he'd stop with the untruths. I never said it's free money. I never blamed Christians for all the evils of the world. I never mentioned the Crusades.
Mods, are we allowed to confabulate like that? Just wondering.....
Really? Where did I ever say it was free money? Where did I ever bring up the Crusades? I didn't, but evidently it's OK to accuse people of things they never did.
If that's allowed, I could come up with some real doozies. If people are going to accuse me of saying something, then they should put their money where their mouth is and bring up the posts.
Really? Where did I ever say it was free money? Where did I ever bring up the Crusades? I didn't, but evidently it's OK to accuse people of things they never did. If that's allowed, I could come up with some real doozies. If people are going to accuse me of saying something, then they should put their money where their mouth is and bring up the posts.
Where did I say you said it? I said people can read and they know what you've said and what you haven't. Additionally, you have the ability to respond, just as you have - very well.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I do wish he'd stop with the untruths. I never said it's free money. I never blamed Christians for all the evils of the world. I never mentioned the Crusades.
Mods, are we allowed to confabulate like that? Just wondering.....
IMHO, Husker is not picking on YOU, he's just doing what he usually does: Deliberately misread what people have said, or create something out of nothing, so he can say that other people are stupid or ignorant or worse.
That's his game, that's what makes him feel superior, his ability to get people to try to defend themselves. And when people respond, that just gives him ammunition.
The only way to WIN at his game is ...
don't play.
I'm just saying this because you seem to be new here, and you might not have figured him out yet. I don't want his nonsense to drive you away.
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I do wish he'd stop with the untruths. I never said it's free money. I never blamed Christians for all the evils of the world. I never mentioned the Crusades.
Mods, are we allowed to confabulate like that? Just wondering.....
IMHO, Husker is not picking on YOU, he's just doing what he usually does: Deliberately misread what people have said, or create something out of nothing, so he can say that other people are stupid or ignorant or worse.
That's his game, that's what makes him feel superior, his ability to get people to try to defend themselves. And when people respond, that just gives him ammunition.
The only way to WIN at his game is ...
don't play.
I'm just saying this because you seem to be new here, and you might not have figured him out yet. I don't want his nonsense to drive you away.
Thank you so much for explaining that! I thought it was just me.
I don't have a problem with him having a sex change operation... whatever. And I think in the US that counts as elective surgery so probably isn't covered by insurance. And he is in the public eye, for whatever reason. I'm not sure why the rest of that clan is in the media either, so whatever.
But I also don't get all the acclaim and awards for being courageous. Surely their are athletes who have worked courageously to overcome sports related injuries ...
I may just move to Canada for a while. I would like a tummy tuck. And my thighs need liposuction. Since y'all are all about paying for elective surgery, I might just take advantage of that....
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I may just move to Canada for a while. I would like a tummy tuck. And my thighs need liposuction. Since y'all are all about paying for elective surgery, I might just take advantage of that....
I don't understand why he was given an award for courage.
Ok. So maybe he did struggle with some inner whatever.
But it took money to do what he did. Not courage.
Courageous to me is doing something, surviving something against all odds.
Bruce had a little plastic surgery and put on a dress. That's not courageous, that's just life for him.
Our Universal Healthcare pays for sexual reassignment. You don't even need money.
Soooooo....... where does the money come from?
Taxes. We get more than our money's worth. Healthcare and maternity leave and education and daycare; all covered by taxes.Works for us!
Wow. You seem to not know where tax money comes from.
How so? I know exactly where tax money comes from. It's not the tax fairy.
From your posts it seems like you think that's where it comes from. Everything's "free". No one has to pay for it. You don't even need money. Wheee!!!!
You're being selective in your reading Husker. You know that Welz is talking about not having to pay additional thousands of dollars out of pocket.
She said, and I QUOTE--"YOU DON'T EVEN NEED MONEY". End quote.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Sure, feel free to call them freaks. We consider it a serious medical condition and we fix it to make the person whole.
Your dimpled thighs aren't a serious medical condition.
I don't understand why he was given an award for courage.
Ok. So maybe he did struggle with some inner whatever.
But it took money to do what he did. Not courage.
Courageous to me is doing something, surviving something against all odds.
Bruce had a little plastic surgery and put on a dress. That's not courageous, that's just life for him.
Our Universal Healthcare pays for sexual reassignment. You don't even need money.
Soooooo....... where does the money come from?
Taxes. We get more than our money's worth. Healthcare and maternity leave and education and daycare; all covered by taxes.Works for us!
Wow. You seem to not know where tax money comes from.
How so? I know exactly where tax money comes from. It's not the tax fairy.
From your posts it seems like you think that's where it comes from. Everything's "free". No one has to pay for it. You don't even need money. Wheee!!!!
I think that's the fifth time you're lying about my posts. Show me where I ever said anything even remotely close to that. I'll wait.
You can't even remember the nonsense you post. You said "YOU DON'T EVEN NEED MONEY". Look at your own posts.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Really? Where did I ever say it was free money? Where did I ever bring up the Crusades? I didn't, but evidently it's OK to accuse people of things they never did. If that's allowed, I could come up with some real doozies. If people are going to accuse me of saying something, then they should put their money where their mouth is and bring up the posts.
I did so. I directly quoted your post where you said "YOU DON'T EVEN NEED MONEY".
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
You don't need money from your own pocket. I hope that's clear enough for you. It's covered under our Healthcare Act.
Of course you don't need money from your own pocket. Because you are taking it from everyone else's pocket. I think we all understand how taxation and Redistribution of wealth works Welts.
You don't need money from your own pocket. I hope that's clear enough for you. It's covered under our Healthcare Act.
And that's why you don't seem to know where taxes come from. So people who want gender re-assignment surgery don't pay any taxes? They don't pay taxes out of their "own pocket"?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Sure, feel free to call them freaks. We consider it a serious medical condition and we fix it to make the person whole. Your dimpled thighs aren't a serious medical condition.
Its not a medical condition. Its a mental condition. And no more necessary to live than a tummy tuck. A lobotomy would be the better course of action...
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....and no, I don't mind helping pay for trans surgeries, just like I don't mind helping people who need gall bladder surgery or a heart transplant.
What does "minding" have to do with anything? The govt doesn't OWN its citizens. They don't OWN your pocketbook. If people want to contribute to things that should be their prerogative, not a greedy Azz Govt helping themselves to every dam thing.
You don't need money from your own pocket. I hope that's clear enough for you. It's covered under our Healthcare Act.
And that's why you don't seem to know where taxes come from. So people who want gender re-assignment surgery don't pay any taxes? They don't pay taxes out of their "own pocket"?
Everybody pays taxes. It's still not "free money". We all pay into it.
This thread is about Caitlyn. I addressed the comment that she had bucketloads of money to pay for the surgery. Here, you don't need to have extra money, because it's covered and I'm OK with that.
Sure, feel free to call them freaks. We consider it a serious medical condition and we fix it to make the person whole. Your dimpled thighs aren't a serious medical condition.
LOL, IMHO, you're putting a bandaid on a mental problem.
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I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
You don't need money from your own pocket. I hope that's clear enough for you. It's covered under our Healthcare Act.
And that's why you don't seem to know where taxes come from. So people who want gender re-assignment surgery don't pay any taxes? They don't pay taxes out of their "own pocket"?
Everybody pays taxes. It's still not "free money". We all pay into it.
This thread is about Caitlyn. I addressed the comment that she had bucketloads of money to pay for the surgery. Here, you don't need to have extra money, because it's covered and I'm OK with that.
Everybody pays taxes. Fine but to what extent. What is the real role of the govt? Womb to Tomb support? Or what? Is the Govt entitled to everything you own simply because somebody decides that their next idea is the next great thing? What about YOUR right to your property and goods without the GREEDY govt always grabbing for more? Funny how govt complains about "greed" for everyone else but Govts are the greediest on the planet since the beginning of time.
Sure, feel free to call them freaks. We consider it a serious medical condition and we fix it to make the person whole. Your dimpled thighs aren't a serious medical condition.
LOL, IMHO, you're putting a bandaid on a mental problem.
Also, being fvcked in the head is a serious medical problem--but the "fix" to serious medical problems isn't to just reinforce the fvcked in the head part.
If someone thinks they are something they aren't--and that describes a LOT of mental patients who are fvcked in the head--they aren't treated by saying "ok, you are that", they are treated by therapies to get them to see reality.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.