TOTALLY GEEKED!

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Another one-Ariz. mom leaves toddler in sweltering car so she can shop at Walmart

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

117 degrees with the doors open!

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

And this one happened three days ago! When will parents learn?

Shoe store manager smashes car window to save child left in hot car

http://www.foxsanantonio.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/shoe-store-manager-smashes-car-window-save-child-left-hot-car-14447.shtml#.VbKF5vnjC60

(KABB) It was a terrifying scene in the parking lot of a Merriam, Kansas shoe store; A child sweating inside a hot car while a bystander tried to break a window and get her out.

The good samaritan was Sarah Oropeza, the store manager.

"It was just very, very emotional for all of us that were around," she says.

Cell phone video of the incident shows Oropeza using a tire iron to smash the window while the little girl sat inside.

"The windows were totally rolled up, all the doors were locked, she was covered in sweat, when I looked in the window, she pulled her hair back and sweat was just drip, drip, drip. I was just getting so mad that it wouldn't break, and I was just praying, like, 'break the window, she's gonna die.'"

While speaking to a television news crew, Oropeza grew more emotional about her efforts to save the girl.

"She was crying, and she was drenched in sweat. Her shoes were wet, she was so drenched in sweat, and I just started crying."

The little girl was saved and a nurse who happened to be at the scene was able to treat her.

Oropeza became angry when speaking about the couple who allegedly left the girl in the car while they shopped.

"No emotion at all, whatsoever. They sat there, and the only question they had for police is if insurance was going to pay to cover the window that we broke. That's the only question that they asked the cops."

Police ticketed the couple for child endangerment and the girl was later picked up by her grandmother.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Jesus people. First off there have been warnings every summer for years on end about this. Secondly any person who has ever opened their car door on a hot day knows how hot it is in the car. Most of us stand back a little & let some of the hot air out before getting in the car. Hell, I leave my windows cracked when the car is vacant hoping it will help with the heat build up. These people wanted the children to die. It was intentional. They were probably annoyed someone came along & fouled their plans. They should have been arrested for pre-meditated attempted murder.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Can you imagine the police are at your car, have broken the window, and taken your child from you, and all you can say is "Are you going to pay to fix my window?" WTF? How about "Is my baby ok?"

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Exactly. That is why I think it was intentional.

Whenitrains · Member

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Can you imagine the police are at your car, have broken the window, and taken your child from you, and all you can say is "Are you going to pay to fix my window?" WTF? How about "Is my baby ok?"

We had that situation in our area. A good Samaritan broke the window to get the door open and get the baby out. Reports were they baby was left in the locked up, windows rolled up car. The POS excuse of a woman had HIM arrested for vandalizing her car!!!

Thankfully a couple of car dealers offered to repair the window at no charge if she dropped the charges. She did but I hope people are mean to her. She cared more about the window than her child.

ed11563 · Guru

Whenitrains wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Can you imagine the police are at your car, have broken the window, and taken your child from you, and all you can say is "Are you going to pay to fix my window?" WTF? How about "Is my baby ok?"
We had that situation in our area. A good Samaritan broke the window to get the door open and get the baby out. Reports were they baby was left in the locked up, windows rolled up car. The POS excuse of a woman had HIM arrested for vandalizing her car!!!
Thankfully a couple of car dealers offered to repair the window at no charge if she dropped the charges. She did but I hope people are mean to her. She cared more about the window than her child.

There's something very, very WRONG with any cop or prosecutor who would go after the person who saved a baby's life.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

WE have laws here to protect people that break into cars to get to children when they have been left in the car.

Whenitrains · Member

ed11563 wrote:
Whenitrains wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Can you imagine the police are at your car, have broken the window, and taken your child from you, and all you can say is "Are you going to pay to fix my window?" WTF? How about "Is my baby ok?"
We had that situation in our area. A good Samaritan broke the window to get the door open and get the baby out. Reports were they baby was left in the locked up, windows rolled up car. The POS excuse of a woman had HIM arrested for vandalizing her car!!!
Thankfully a couple of car dealers offered to repair the window at no charge if she dropped the charges. She did but I hope people are mean to her. She cared more about the window than her child.
There's something very, very WRONG with any cop or prosecutor who would go after the person who saved a baby's life.

It was reported that the prosecutor and the cop who charged the guy received death threats. I don't remember if there was any talk about a good Samaritan law about breaking a car window to save a child, there should be!

chef · Guru

If I see a child or animal inside a car with the windows rolled up, I will not hesitate to break the window. I also won't hesitate to give the jerk an earful.

The AZ summer heat is oppressive. I've sat in my truck in the shade with my windows down in the summer when waiting on people. I can do about 20 minutes before I have to turn on the AC to cool off some. The sun beating down just gets to be too much when one isn't moving. I can't imagine being locked up in a closed car in the summer here.

huskerbb · Guru

Yet invariably, when this ends in tragedy, there are those who say things like, "well, they've been punished, enough," or "anyone can make a mistake."

ed11563 · Guru

chef wrote:
If I see a child or animal inside a car with the windows rolled up, I will not hesitate to break the window. I also won't hesitate to give the jerk an earful.

The AZ summer heat is oppressive. I've sat in my truck in the shade with my windows down in the summer when waiting on people. I can do about 20 minutes before I have to turn on the AC to cool off some. The sun beating down just gets to be too much when one isn't moving. I can't imagine being locked up in a closed car in the summer here.

You don't have a nice fur coat like a dog has to keep you cool.

(Wait, that's not how it works, is it?)

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Who leaves their baby in the car alone...I don't care what the temp is!?! Wtf is wrong with these people?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Mellow Momma wrote:
Who leaves their baby in the car alone...I don't care what the temp is!?! Wtf is wrong with these people?

I ask myself that question all the time!

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

The first year I lived here a woman left her 9 day old baby in the car for several hours while she was in a video gambling establishment. Baby died. So sad.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

I googled it, baby was 10 days old.

Mother who gambled while baby locked in car gets probation

Gail Baker received a suspended sentence after reaching a plea agreement with prosecutors in the death of her infant daughter.

Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 1999

A mother who gambled while her daughter perished inside a locked car will not spend another day in jail for her baby's death after pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter on Tuesday.

Nearly two years after Gail Baker's 10-day-old daughter died outside State Line Video, the Savannah woman who spent 14 months in jail received a suspended sentence and was allowed to leave with her family.

Baker was also given five years probation and will be ordered to attend mental health counseling and Gambler's Anonymous if her probation officers agree treatment is needed, according to her plea agreement.

Her probation was transferred to Georgia, where Baker lives with her husband and their 5-year-old child.

Baker, 28, a former sergeant at Hunter Army Airfield, faced Circuit Judge Jackson Gregory in Jasper County General Sessions Court and told him she'll miss her daughter every day of her life.

"There are no words to express how I feel in the loss of a child," she said. "Joy was my pride and joy."

Baker's daughter died while left alone for seven hours in the car on Aug. 29, 1997. Temperatures reached the mid-90s that day and were much higher inside the closed car.

Her mother passed the day in the an air-conditioned video parlor and later told police she looked out a window several times, but never checked on the child.

Two days later, Baker was arrested by Jasper County deputies and charged with homicide by child abuse. That charge would have carried the possibility of life in prison if she was convicted, but taking the case to trial was "risky," said Assistant Solicitor Ken Anderson.

Instead, prosecutors agreed to let her plead guilty to the lesser charge, which is what she would have been charged with if the fairly new homicide by child abuse charge wasn't an option, he said.

Baker received the maximum sentence for second-degree involuntary manslaughter, which is five years in prison, but because she credited with 15 months in jail, the sentence was suspended, Anderson said. Unless she violates her probation, she will not be sent back.

Prosecutors agreed to a plea bargain because they worried that the May 1998 death of Dr. William Medhart could lessen their chance of a conviction, Anderson said.

"The big consideration is the pathologist who did the autopsy died," Anderson said. "The results of the autopsy were key to cause and time of death."

Medhart had estimated that Joy died of dehydration about two hours after her mother locked the car door and walked away. The baby was rushed to a Savannah hospital after her mother discovered that she wasn't breathing at about 11 p.m.

Another doctor could have read Medhart's report, but without him there, a jury might not have convicted, Anderson said.

Julius Baker said he was greatly relieved that his wife would not have to go to prison and said she's been punished enough for her mistake.

"We're going to be punished the rest of our lives because we lost a child," he said. "Right now, we just want to go back home, relax, and try to get our lives back together."

Julius Baker said his wife hasn't gambled since their daughter's death and her attorney said she now goes bowling instead.

Gail Baker declined to comment.

An opponent of video poker, Julius Baker has spent much of the past two years sharing his story with groups across the state and calling for casino owners to be more responsible. After his wife's arrest he said he didn't blame her for their daughter's death because she was addicted to video gambling.

On Tuesday, he placed some of that blame on the video poker industry.

"They need to open their eyes to know that some people are addicted," he said. "They're only concerned about you putting your money in the machines. They need to be concerned about what goes on outside their building."

Managers at State Line Video, which is owned by Billy Tyfinger, couldn't be reached for comment on Tuesday.

In a 1997 Associated Press story about the case, Carey Crantford, research director for the South Carolina Coin Operators Association, said the industry recognizes that some people may develop problems.

But, "It's an adult game," he said. "Follow the rules and regulations and it's safe."

The Baker case, which was expected to be one of the most highly publicized trials in the state, ended quietly instead. There were few spectators.

The case received statewide attention in the ongoing debate about video gambling. Former Gov. David Beasley, who has called the industry the "crack cocaine of gambling," mentioned Joy's death in his 1998 State of the State address and called for a ban on the games.

Julius Baker said he would continue to do whatever he could to fight the video poker industry and change attitudes about casinos.

"Whatever we can do to close it down, I would support 100 percent," he said.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

I can't even imagine the horror of that SB, I would not leave my child like that, but the child dying due to my neglect would lead me to suicide.

WYSIWYG · Guru

There really ought to be a test or something before people can become parents.

Unfortunately I agree with Lexxy in believing that often it's intentional. There's no way that someone that cares about their child would do this.

Lexxy's sad suggestion does make me wonder one thing unfortunately. I wonder if abortion was ever an option for the women that seemed to do it intentionally. Given the option of a woman cooking her child in the car to get rid of it or aborting it, as bad as I think the choice is, I'd rather they had aborted it. Baking in a car is not exactly quick and painless.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

What they are thinking is that it's too much of a bother to drag the kid out of the car seat, get a basket, put the kid in, push the cart all over, and then do everything in reverse. Much easier to "run in and out" while leaving the kid in the car.

chef · Guru

It is NOT the video poker lounge's fault that that baby died. How ridiculous! The father is absurd for saying such a thing.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

chef wrote:
It is NOT the video poker lounge's fault that that baby died. How ridiculous! The father is absurd for saying such a thing.

Yes it is! Come on. That mother was the VICTIM here! It's the lounge's fault she's an addict!

chef · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
chef wrote:
It is NOT the video poker lounge's fault that that baby died. How ridiculous! The father is absurd for saying such a thing.
Yes it is! Come on. That mother was the VICTIM here! It's the lounge's fault she's an addict!

How could I forget?! Shame on me!

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

chef wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
chef wrote:
It is NOT the video poker lounge's fault that that baby died. How ridiculous! The father is absurd for saying such a thing.
Yes it is! Come on. That mother was the VICTIM here! It's the lounge's fault she's an addict!
How could I forget?! Shame on me!

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ed11563 · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
What they are thinking is that it's too much of a bother to drag the kid out of the car seat, get a basket, put the kid in, push the cart all over, and then do everything in reverse. Much easier to "run in and out" while leaving the kid in the car.

Well then they should leave the motor running with the key in the ignition, like people do all the time at 7-eleven. That saves time too.

(Note from a convicted car thief, people run into the in-and-out type stores while leaving their engines running a LOT.)

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

ed11563 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
What they are thinking is that it's too much of a bother to drag the kid out of the car seat, get a basket, put the kid in, push the cart all over, and then do everything in reverse. Much easier to "run in and out" while leaving the kid in the car.
Well then they should leave the motor running with the key in the ignition, like people do all the time at 7-eleven. That saves time too.

(Note from a convicted car thief, people run into the in-and-out type stores while leaving their engines running a LOT.)

ed, you are a convicted car thief???

ed11563 · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
What they are thinking is that it's too much of a bother to drag the kid out of the car seat, get a basket, put the kid in, push the cart all over, and then do everything in reverse. Much easier to "run in and out" while leaving the kid in the car.
Well then they should leave the motor running with the key in the ignition, like people do all the time at 7-eleven. That saves time too.

(Note from a convicted car thief, people run into the in-and-out type stores while leaving their engines running a LOT.)
ed, you are a convicted car thief???

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ..............

I'll never tell smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile

NAOW · Vette's SS

This just popped up on my FB news feed. Think this will prevent these headlines in the future?
*I'm feeling pretty jaded right now. It might help a little, but I think if you purposefully leave your kid in a hot car, you probably wont make use of this.

http://www.evenflo.com/sensorsafe/

Evenflo: Company Debuts New Car Seat It Says Has Technology to Prevent Hot Car Deaths

The new product, which sells at Wal-Mart for $150, features SensorSafe technology which will transmit a signal if the car seat is still in use when the car's ignition is off, Evenflo said.

SensorSafe

SENSORSAFE™ TECHNOLOGY

Upon arrival at your destination, the Evenflo SensorSafe™ Technology will generate a series of tones, reminding you that your baby is present in the vehicle. These tones are activated through a smart chest clip and wireless receiver. Additionally, the receiver will also notify you if the chest clip becomes unbuckled during transit.

ADVANCED SensorSafe™ Embrace™ DLX

Available online July 24, 2015
Usage: 4-35 lbs, or up to 30” in height
Location: Walmart, Evenflo.com
Retail Price: $149.88

-- Edited by NAOW on Saturday 25th of July 2015 09:21:41 PM

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

NAOW, DH and I were talking about this seat. But it has to be activated somehow for the, at least, first time. If there's a way to turn it on then there has got to be a way to turn it off. So, not so sure how it would work. Plus, if it turns off if you unbuckle the seat belt to take the child out what's to keep parents from just leaving the kid in the parked car without the seat belt buckled.

DH thinks it lulls parents into a false sense of security.

Blankie · Guru

chef wrote:
If I see a child or animal inside a car with the windows rolled up, I will not hesitate to break the window. I also won't hesitate to give the jerk an earful.

The AZ summer heat is oppressive. I've sat in my truck in the shade with my windows down in the summer when waiting on people. I can do about 20 minutes before I have to turn on the AC to cool off some. The sun beating down just gets to be too much when one isn't moving. I can't imagine being locked up in a closed car in the summer here.

I wouldn't just break the window and save the baby. Yes, save the kid, but also definitely call the police.

If you don't, then the excuse for a parent is just going to do it again.

These people need police intervention. They need to be charged.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

NAOW wrote:
This just popped up on my FB news feed. Think this will prevent these headlines in the future?
*I'm feeling pretty jaded right now. It might help a little, but I think if you purposefully leave your kid in a hot car, you probably wont make use of this.
http://www.evenflo.com/sensorsafe/
Evenflo: Company Debuts New Car Seat It Says Has Technology to Prevent Hot Car Deaths
The new product, which sells at Wal-Mart for $150, features SensorSafe technology which will transmit a signal if the car seat is still in use when the car's ignition is off, Evenflo said.
SENSORSAFE™ TECHNOLOGY
Upon arrival at your destination, the Evenflo SensorSafe™ Technology will generate a series of tones, reminding you that your baby is present in the vehicle. These tones are activated through a smart chest clip and wireless receiver. Additionally, the receiver will also notify you if the chest clip becomes unbuckled during transit.
ADVANCED SensorSafe™ Embrace™ DLX
Available online July 24, 2015
Usage: 4-35 lbs, or up to 30” in height
Location: Walmart, Evenflo.com
Retail Price: $149.88

-- Edited by NAOW on Saturday 25th of July 2015 09:21:41 PM

How about people just don't leave their kids in cars alone?! Those who do and something happens to the kid - they need to be charged with a crime. None of this "they have suffered enough" garbage. I am so sick of reading about people leaving their kids alone in cars. It's illegal. Don't do it. Illegal. How difficult is that to comprehend ? Leaving a small child unsupervised, regardless of the conditions, is not allowed.

And I don't buy a single one of the "I forgot my kid was in the car" stories. Do you not talk to your child while they are in the car? Do you ride the whole time and never say a word? I played kids songs on the radio and we sang along or we chatted about the day and what the plan was, even before they were old enough to answer.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Oh I agree MM. But everyone says we need to have products like this to help. Personally, I don't think they will make much difference, because the people that care about products like this are the people who wouldn't do it in the first place. I don't really buy the 'I forgot' line either, but who knows, maybe I'm wrong and something like this will help.

And really this product is geared towards those who forget their kids are with them.. That's the whole point. It beeps to remind you your baby is still buckled in. It does nothing to help the babies who've been left intentionally.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Forgetting your kid is with you...I can't even make my brain understand those words. How do you forget there is another human being in the car? Like I said, I talked to my kids when they were in the car with me. They aren't furniture. You don't just plop them back there and ignore them until you get to your destination. What kind of monster does that?

TOTALLY GEEKED!

Mikayla Peer, 20, has been charged with leaving her 2-year-old child in a 117-degree car while she shopped at an Arizona Walmart.

Shoe store manager smashes car window to save child left in hot car

Mother who gambled while baby locked in car gets probation

Gail Baker received a suspended sentence after reaching a plea agreement with prosecutors in the death of her infant daughter.

SENSORSAFE™ TECHNOLOGY

ADVANCED SensorSafe™ Embrace™ DLX

SENSORSAFE™ TECHNOLOGY

ADVANCED SensorSafe™ Embrace™ DLX