Why does it have to be only black families willing to adopt? I have two cousins who are black, and one of them has mixed race children.

Defund a company that provides birth control, health screenings, and counseling either free or at a reduced rate.
Yes, I am sure that will improve the lives of low income girls everywhere.
And no doubt reduce the teen pregnancy rate.

Also, that is not her best picture. I am no Palin fan, but she usually looks good in photos, she looks insane in this one.

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

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Defund a company that provides birth control, health screenings, and counseling either free or at a reduced rate.
Yes, I am sure that will improve the lives of low income girls everywhere.
And no doubt reduce the teen pregnancy rate.

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 There are lots of other organizations that do all this that could use that money.  Organizations that don't perform abortions, that don't turn around and use that funding to support political candidates (which should be illegal, btw).

 

And girls would have better access to those things exactly because there is NOT the controversy of abortion involved.  They wouldn't have to deal with people hating it being around and the protestors, etc.  Abortion clinics - if they must exist - should do only that, and keep taxpayer money out of it.

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Planned Parenthood is not the only ones to hand out free birth control and counseling.

The local health department does these things too.

They've done it for years. Heck I used it at 18.

So there isn't really a need for planned parenthood other than abortions.

We are all reasonably intelligent people here.

Let's not pretend PP does anything special.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Planned Parenthood is not the only ones to hand out free birth control and counseling.

The local health department does these things too.

They've done it for years. Heck I used it at 18.

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I have to wonder whether this would be true if PP had not existed, and was not still providing these services for women. 

I remember well how angry and adamant some religious groups were when The Pill came out, how vocal they were that The Pill, Condoms, etc were Instruments Of The Devil, and that only the Rhythm Method was okay for married couples, and that teenagers (and college students) should not even know about anything but abstinence until marriage.

 

And girls who got pregnant HAD to be hidden, and HAD TO give up their babies for adoption.

And that only "those" people had abortions ... back-alley abortions... and that if the procedure left them sterile or DEAD, well, that's what they deserved.

 

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Planned Parenthood is not the only ones to hand out free birth control and counseling.

The local health department does these things too.

They've done it for years. Heck I used it at 18.

So there isn't really a need for planned parenthood other than abortions.

We are all reasonably intelligent people here.

Let's not pretend PP does anything special.

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 The local health department in my hometown growing up didn't. We didn't even have a health department. The next town over did and all that one did was take info from people who claimed they had food poisoning from a local restaurant. 

 

FNW wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Planned Parenthood is not the only ones to hand out free birth control and counseling.

The local health department does these things too.

They've done it for years. Heck I used it at 18.

So there isn't really a need for planned parenthood other than abortions.

We are all reasonably intelligent people here.

Let's not pretend PP does anything special.

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 Let's not forget selling the body parts of the babies they kill.

 

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 Ok so I stayed off the thread about PPH and that awful women Director saying that stuff. But the thing is when an organ is needed for a tiny baby they need another tiny baby's organ. So, the point is careful procedures to harvest those small organs have to be followed.  Which means a doctor has to be careful not to destroy certain organs.  Abortions are not just all about killing a viable baby, sometimes they are about a child already dead or dying  and the "abortionist" wants to grab those organs while still viable to give to another child.  My second son; he passed because I refused those transplants because it was the 80's and medical experience did not provide a good precedent, my son would have been that precedent and so would have gone through a lot of surgeries, probably throughout his life.  I made the decision to not do in uterine transplants, a groundbreaking technology at the time. I was not going to have my son be a guinea pig. Please, think about that.

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Planned Parenthood is not the only ones to hand out free birth control and counseling.

The local health department does these things too.

They've done it for years. Heck I used it at 18.

So there isn't really a need for planned parenthood other than abortions.

We are all reasonably intelligent people here.

Let's not pretend PP does anything special.

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 Let's not forget selling the body parts of the babies they kill.

 

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 Ok so I stayed off the thread about PPH and that awful women Director saying that stuff. But the thing is when an organ is needed for a tiny baby they need another tiny baby's organ. So, the point is careful procedures to harvest those small organs have to be followed.  Which means a doctor has to be careful not to destroy certain organs.  Abortions are not just all about killing a viable baby, sometimes they are about a child already dead or dying  and the "abortionist" wants to grab those organs while still viable to give to another child.  My second son; he passed because I refused those transplants because it was the 80's and medical experience did not provide a good precedent, my son would have been that precedent and so would have gone through a lot of surgeries, probably throughout his life.  I made the decision to not do in uterine transplants, a groundbreaking technology at the time. I was not going to have my son be a guinea pig. Please, think about that.

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I understood from the videos and articles that the "parts" were used for medical research, NOT FOR TRANSPLANT. They didn't say what kind of research, or I didn't hear it. 

 

Well, we have a department of health that does some services. I am not sure of the extent of the services. I do know that you have to bring proof of address and proof of income. DN tried to go there once but she made too much money working minimum wage. Anyway, they asked for those two documents. If you didn't live in that county or if you made too much money you couldn't use the services.

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Planned Parenthood is not the only ones to hand out free birth control and counseling.

The local health department does these things too.

They've done it for years. Heck I used it at 18.

So there isn't really a need for planned parenthood other than abortions.

We are all reasonably intelligent people here.

Let's not pretend PP does anything special.

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 Let's not forget selling the body parts of the babies they kill.

 

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 Ok so I stayed off the thread about PPH and that awful women Director saying that stuff. But the thing is when an organ is needed for a tiny baby they need another tiny baby's organ. So, the point is careful procedures to harvest those small organs have to be followed.  Which means a doctor has to be careful not to destroy certain organs.  Abortions are not just all about killing a viable baby, sometimes they are about a child already dead or dying  and the "abortionist" wants to grab those organs while still viable to give to another child.  My second son; he passed because I refused those transplants because it was the 80's and medical experience did not provide a good precedent, my son would have been that precedent and so would have gone through a lot of surgeries, probably throughout his life.  I made the decision to not do in uterine transplants, a groundbreaking technology at the time. I was not going to have my son be a guinea pig. Please, think about that.

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  I'm so sorry  Ikwtd

Lawyerlady wrote:

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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Planned Parenthood is not the only ones to hand out free birth control and counseling.

The local health department does these things too.

They've done it for years. Heck I used it at 18.

So there isn't really a need for planned parenthood other than abortions.

We are all reasonably intelligent people here.

Let's not pretend PP does anything special.

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 Let's not forget selling the body parts of the babies they kill.

 

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 Ok so I stayed off the thread about PPH and that awful women Director saying that stuff. But the thing is when an organ is needed for a tiny baby they need another tiny baby's organ. So, the point is careful procedures to harvest those small organs have to be followed.  Which means a doctor has to be careful not to destroy certain organs.  Abortions are not just all about killing a viable baby, sometimes they are about a child already dead or dying  and the "abortionist" wants to grab those organs while still viable to give to another child.  My second son; he passed because I refused those transplants because it was the 80's and medical experience did not provide a good precedent, my son would have been that precedent and so would have gone through a lot of surgeries, probably throughout his life.  I made the decision to not do in uterine transplants, a groundbreaking technology at the time. I was not going to have my son be a guinea pig. Please, think about that.

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 This was a really sad situation for you and I'm very sorry.  But this is not the type of procedure planned parenthood is doing. 

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 Exactly.