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 Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

 

 

 

 

 

AAdGy03.img?h=342&w=486&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=334&y=199© William H. Merideth The way William Merideth sees it, it’s pretty clear-cut: a drone flying over his backyard was a well-defined invasion of privacy, analogous to a physical trespassing.

Not knowing who owned it, the Kentucky man took out his shotgun and fired three blasts of Number 8 birdshot to take the drone out.

"It was just right there," he told Ars. "It was hovering, I would never have shot it if it was flying. When he came down with a video camera right over my back deck, that's not going to work. I know they're neat little vehicles, but one of those uses shouldn’t be flying into people's yards and videotaping."

Minutes later, a car full of four men that he didn’t recognize rolled up, "looking for a fight."

"Are you the son of a b***h that shot my drone?" one said, according to Merideth.

His terse reply to the men, while wearing a 10mm Glock holstered on his hip: "If you cross that sidewalk onto my property, there’s going to be another shooting."

The men backed down, retreated to their car, and waited for the police to arrive.

"His only comment was that he hoped I had a big checkbook because his drone cost $1,800," Merideth added.

The Kentuckian was arrested Sunday evening in Hillview, Kentucky, just south of Louisville and charged with criminal mischief and wanton endangerment. He was released the following day. The Hillview Police Department did not immediately respond to Ars’ request for comment. 

A measured approach?

The report of the downed drone comes a month after Ars reported on a similar incident in Modesto, California. But in that case, the drone operator was flying his drone over his parents’ farm, and it was shot down by a neighbor. 

Here, Merideth, who operates a local trucking company, said that he had seen "two or three" different drones in his backyard previously over the last year and was disturbed by their presence. "What recourse do we have?" he asked.

The 43-year-old man claimed that law enforcement officials, including the county jailer, told him privately that they agreed with his actions. "The people that own the drones and the people that hate guns are the only ones that disagree with what I did," he said. "Now, if I’d have had a .22 rifle, I should have gone to jail for that. The diameter of those things are going to come down with enough force to hurt somebody. Number 8 birdshot is not. Number 8 is the size of a pinhead. The bottom line is that it's a right to privacy issue and defending my property issue. It would have been no different had he been standing in my backyard. As Americans, we have a right to defend our rights and property."

So what’s next in this bizarre tale?

"We have a lawyer and there's a court date and then there's going to be a hearing," Merideth said. "It's not going to stop with the two charges against me, which I'm confident that we'll get reduced or get dismissed completely."

And what would Merideth like to tell this errant drone operator when he meets him again?

"I would just like [him] to get some education on his toy and learn to respect the rights of the people," he said. "It's fine and dandy, and I think it's cool there's a camera on it, but just take it to a park or something—he's not a responsible drone owner."

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This is one way to deal with drone threats. I think he is spot on. WHy should someone be allowed to fly a drone which is potentially armed and has surveillance?

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I agree. It was an invasion of his privacy and he shot it in his own backyard. Too bad too sad for the idiot drone operator.

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I live about 50 yards from the perimeter of a military base. If someone is flying a drone over my yard I bet something bigger than birdshot will take it out.

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I've never seen a drone flying around my house. I know of someone who has one in Idaho, however. People hire him to take aerial video of their homes when they list them for sale.

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He was totally justified.

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I don't see how this can possibly be seen as anything but trespassing.

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Yes it was trespassing but legally he destroyed another person's property. If someone puts their video camera in your yard I don't think you have a right to destroy it. You can turn it off, cover it with a sheet, etc. But legally I don't think you can smash it to bits. Just like paparazzi who invade celebs' space. The celeb can't smash up the camera.

That said - I think he did the right thing. I just don't think the law is on his side, which sucks.

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Yes it was trespassing but legally he destroyed another person's property. If someone puts their video camera in your yard I don't think you have a right to destroy it. You can turn it off, cover it with a sheet, etc. But legally I don't think you can smash it to bits. Just like paparazzi who invade celebs' space. The celeb can't smash up the camera.

That said - I think he did the right thing. I just don't think the law is on his side, which sucks.


 I think you are wrong.  If the paparazzi invade the celebrities "space" that is different than putting a hidden camera on their property.  I'm fairly certain they could destroy the latter.

 

now, if someone accidentally drops a camera, that may be different.



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I agree with husker . Once it was above his property he has every right to shoot it as long as no gun laws were broken. If a person is considered trespassing when they're on your property than this drone which was video taping him was trespassing as well.

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We have the right to remove or trim branches hanging over our fences. I think it depends on his location and local air space ownership laws, and how far up the drone was.

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I agree with husker . Once it was above his property he has every right to shoot it as long as no gun laws were broken. If a person is considered trespassing when they're on your property than this drone which was video taping him was trespassing as well.


 An unarmed person walking through your backyard in broad daylight - you don't have the right to shoot and kill that person. Even if that person stopped on your backyard to take a picture of your house, you dont have the right to shoot and kill them. You may ask them to leave, you may call the cops, etc. But you can't kill everyone/everything that crosses your property lines. 



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Tinydancer wrote:

I agree with husker . Once it was above his property he has every right to shoot it as long as no gun laws were broken. If a person is considered trespassing when they're on your property than this drone which was video taping him was trespassing as well.


 An unarmed person walking through your backyard in broad daylight - you don't have the right to shoot and kill that person. Even if that person stopped on your backyard to take a picture of your house, you dont have the right to shoot and kill them. You may ask them to leave, you may call the cops, etc. But you can't kill everyone/everything that crosses your property lines. 


That a ridiculous comparison.  This isn't a person.  He had every right to shoot it down.  In TN, they are working on a bill that makes it illegal to fly a drone on another's property. 



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I bet there will be laws about how high one's property lines go up. I say no lower than the highest tree top on the property.

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I agree with husker . Once it was above his property he has every right to shoot it as long as no gun laws were broken. If a person is considered trespassing when they're on your property than this drone which was video taping him was trespassing as well.


 An unarmed person walking through your backyard in broad daylight - you don't have the right to shoot and kill that person. Even if that person stopped on your backyard to take a picture of your house, you dont have the right to shoot and kill them. You may ask them to leave, you may call the cops, etc. But you can't kill everyone/everything that crosses your property lines. 


 Who did he kill?  Did I miss part of the story here, or are you just being ridiculous?



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Mellow Momma wrote:
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I agree with husker . Once it was above his property he has every right to shoot it as long as no gun laws were broken. If a person is considered trespassing when they're on your property than this drone which was video taping him was trespassing as well.


 An unarmed person walking through your backyard in broad daylight - you don't have the right to shoot and kill that person. Even if that person stopped on your backyard to take a picture of your house, you dont have the right to shoot and kill them. You may ask them to leave, you may call the cops, etc. But you can't kill everyone/everything that crosses your property lines. 


 This is not relevant to the OP at all.  ONE - it was a drone, not a person.  TWO - the person threatening to come onto his property was armed. 



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I bet there will be laws about how high one's property lines go up. I say no lower than the highest tree top on the property.


 There already are.  These laws were put into place when airplanes were invented.   



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Mellow Momma wrote:
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I agree with husker . Once it was above his property he has every right to shoot it as long as no gun laws were broken. If a person is considered trespassing when they're on your property than this drone which was video taping him was trespassing as well.


 An unarmed person walking through your backyard in broad daylight - you don't have the right to shoot and kill that person. Even if that person stopped on your backyard to take a picture of your house, you dont have the right to shoot and kill them. You may ask them to leave, you may call the cops, etc. But you can't kill everyone/everything that crosses your property lines. 


Well, I am not so sure about that.  Most of these cases, the homeowner has won. 



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would have shot it down myself--no problem

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Just because something crosses your property lines - be it a person or a thing - you don't automatically have a right to destroy that thing. That's my entire point. If someone's property is in your yard, you don't have a right to destroy their property of it isn't causing you physical harm.

And again, I agree with the guy. I just don't think you have a right to destroy whatever crosses into your yard.

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How do you tell the difference between a drone and an RC craft?

And why can't a camera be mounted to one of RC crafts?

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I'm not sure Lily. I would think you could?

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Just because something crosses your property lines - be it a person or a thing - you don't automatically have a right to destroy that thing. That's my entire point. If someone's property is in your yard, you don't have a right to destroy their property of it isn't causing you physical harm.

And again, I agree with the guy. I just don't think you have a right to destroy whatever crosses into your yard.


I'm not so sure that is the law.  I would like to see the relevant statutes here.

 

If a neighbor's tree grows over into your yard--you have the right to destroy that portion of the tree. 

 

Plus, this was no accident.  This isn't a kid's ball bouncing into your yard, or even a baseball through the window.   



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Just because something crosses your property lines - be it a person or a thing - you don't automatically have a right to destroy that thing. That's my entire point. If someone's property is in your yard, you don't have a right to destroy their property of it isn't causing you physical harm.

And again, I agree with the guy. I just don't think you have a right to destroy whatever crosses into your yard.


Yes, you kind of do have that right actually.  Not saying I agree with it and that is a scary world if people freak out and shoot someone in their yard but it does happen. 



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Just because something crosses your property lines - be it a person or a thing - you don't automatically have a right to destroy that thing. That's my entire point. If someone's property is in your yard, you don't have a right to destroy their property of it isn't causing you physical harm.

And again, I agree with the guy. I just don't think you have a right to destroy whatever crosses into your yard.


I'm not so sure that is the law.  I would like to see the relevant statutes here.

 

If a neighbor's tree grows over into your yard--you have the right to destroy that portion of the tree. 

 

Plus, this was no accident.  This isn't a kid's ball bouncing into your yard, or even a baseball through the window.   


Well, one of our trees was overhanging the neighbor's yard.   Shortly after we moved in.  And, one day, I came home and there was a guy in MY yard, up in MY tree hacking off the branches on the one side that was overhanging.  I thought that was pretty BALLSY and nervy of the neighbor to presume he could do that without even discussing it with me.  We never even had a single discussion on the tree at ALL.  So, yeah, I guess I could have grabbed my gun and popped that tree guy!   But, I wonder what kind of dumb ass he was to think he could do that on someone else's property in the first place. 



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There's more to this story.

He had a six foot privacy fence around his yard. His two teenage daughters were sunbathing in the backyard.

MASSIVE invasion of privacy. It would be no different than a peeping tom looking through the window if he had a way to do it without actually standing on your property.

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The judge dismissed the charges. The drone owner wants to take it to a grand jury, but I doubt that will work. More people are afraid of drones spying on them than own drones.

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I live about 50 yards from the perimeter of a military base. If someone is flying a drone over my yard I bet something bigger than birdshot will take it out.


SB, this raises an interesting question.

A military response would probably lead to shooting it down, but with what?

If it's flying over a residential area, machine gum or cannon fire could do a lot of damage to the neighborhood.

As would an antiaircraft missile.

 

It would make sense to me for the military to use a signal jammer, to prevent the drone pilot from controlling the aircraft. Then they could just watch it until it crashes.

 



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Yes it was trespassing but legally he destroyed another person's property. If someone puts their video camera in your yard I don't think you have a right to destroy it. You can turn it off, cover it with a sheet, etc. But legally I don't think you can smash it to bits. Just like paparazzi who invade celebs' space. The celeb can't smash up the camera.

That said - I think he did the right thing. I just don't think the law is on his side, which sucks.


 The rule for TREES is that you can cut down anything growing over your property.

 

I think if you find a surveillance camera on your property, you could consider it abandoned property and take it, and do whatever you want with it.

maybe the drone hovering over your property, possibly gazing into your upstairs bedroom windows, could also be considered property of the land owner, who could shoot it down or catch it in a net, or jam its' signal until it falls from the sky.

I'm sure there will be lawsuits and case law on this subject.

 



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 - the person threatening to come onto his property was armed. 

 I think it said the homeowner was armed. The drone guy had 3 accomplices with him, so there was a viable threat to the homeowner if they'd crossed the property line, and they were making verbal threats. 

 



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I live about 50 yards from the perimeter of a military base. If someone is flying a drone over my yard I bet something bigger than birdshot will take it out.


SB, this raises an interesting question.

A military response would probably lead to shooting it down, but with what?

If it's flying over a residential area, machine gum or cannon fire could do a lot of damage to the neighborhood.

As would an antiaircraft missile.

 

It would make sense to me for the military to use a signal jammer, to prevent the drone pilot from controlling the aircraft. Then they could just watch it until it crashes.

 


 Anti aircraft missile? Do you realize the size of this>

 



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How do you tell the difference between a drone and an RC craft?

And why can't a camera be mounted to one of RC crafts?


A drone IS a radio controlled aircraft, and some of them can carry cameras that transmit to their controller.

The difference is that these drones are helicopters, and can fly very slowly, and hover while looking into people's bedroom windows.

 

They can also be used to drop explosives on an enemy or a parked airplane on a base next to someone's house.

 



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The judge dismissed the charges. The drone owner wants to take it to a grand jury, but I doubt that will work. More people are afraid of drones spying on them than own drones.


I'm glad the case got dropped.

Drone owners are very disrespectful of privacy rights, period. The laws need to catch up. 



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I live about 50 yards from the perimeter of a military base. If someone is flying a drone over my yard I bet something bigger than birdshot will take it out.


SB, this raises an interesting question.

A military response would probably lead to shooting it down, but with what?

If it's flying over a residential area, machine gum or cannon fire could do a lot of damage to the neighborhood.

As would an antiaircraft missile.

 

It would make sense to me for the military to use a signal jammer, to prevent the drone pilot from controlling the aircraft. Then they could just watch it until it crashes.

 


 Anti aircraft missile? Do you realize the size of this>

 


and the COST !!! 

Of course, even sending up a fighter to find it and shoot it down would probably cost over $10,000 .

Cruise missiles cost over $250,000 each; but i don't know how much an air to air missile costs.

Probably the best solution would be to have someone drive out and find it from the ground, and use a shotgun.

 

 



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Forget drones, I want a helicopter for my work commute.

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Forget drones, I want a helicopter for my work commute.


Do you want a camera on that helicopter? biggrin 



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No, no camera. I'm more stealthy.

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When drones first made their appearance, I knew something like this was going to happen. They can be just too intrusive and you have no idea who is controlling them.... Could be a kid and it just got out of his control or could be someone trying to get information on your and your family. Shoot it down - sounds good to me.

On the tree, I am with Ed. It is also my understanding anything hanging over on your property can be removed...

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So, Husband has RC Helis and quadcopters(drones). One of them even has a camera.
He's used the camera to film our house and street from above,a neighborhood park, and the sky when there was a cool looking storm. It's neat footage. He had fun with flying these toys.
He's never used it to fly into other people's yards.
IMHO, these guys were doing something intrusive and deserved to have their drone destroyed.

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