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Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Amber teething necklaces

weltschmerz · Guru

I know a thing or two about amber. For instance, there's a LOT of fake amber out there. Most of it is plastic or resin.
To check if it's real, put a tiny scrap of paper on the table. Rub the amber on your head, building up a current. Touch the amber to the paper, If the amber picks the paper up, it's real. If it doesn't, it's plastic.
As far as the bead getting warm and sending signals to the brain...I don't believe in that woo. It definitely sounds like a choking hazard.

To me, it's in the same category as detoxifying foot patches or those magic pendants that make water "alive".

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 3rd of August 2015 02:46:59 PM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I've seen those teething necklaces for babies, too, that moms are supposed to wear, but I've never understood the wisdom of trusting choking-sized beads in a babies mouth to chew on secured only by whatever is stringing the necklace, etc.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Thanks weltz! Around here all the moms are doing amber teething necklaces. They claim it cures everything from colic to the flu to teething. I didn't know much about it but it sounded like a woo to me so I read up on it. A doctor in the US has spoken out about it. Apparently, Spain, France, and one other country I can't remember have completely banned them. Other countries are working on it.

The doctor did say it leeched out a TINY bit of chemical into the skin. Not enough to do anything or be dangerous. He said he found it strange that all these mothers who don't want medical chemicals going into their baby are so willing to put other natural chemicals into them. He also pointed out that some of the most potent and dangerous chemicals out there are natural derivatives.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
I've seen those teething necklaces for babies, too, that moms are supposed to wear, but I've never understood the wisdom of trusting choking-sized beads in a babies mouth to chew on secured only by whatever is stringing the necklace, etc.

No, the moms don't wear them. You are supposed to wrap them around your babies wrist or ankle and hope they don't get it loose and chew on it.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I've seen those teething necklaces for babies, too, that moms are supposed to wear, but I've never understood the wisdom of trusting choking-sized beads in a babies mouth to chew on secured only by whatever is stringing the necklace, etc.
No, the moms don't wear them. You are supposed to wrap them around your babies wrist or ankle and hope they don't get it loose and chew on it.

I know - but same concept. Both being really stupid.

chef · Guru

These things are all the rage in some of the mommy groups I'm on. They recommend getting the bracelet one and putting it around baby's ankle. I never got one and I don't buy into this kind of stuff.

DS gets cranky when he's teething but mostly takes it in stride. So far, his molars were the only teeth that really bothered him when they came in. I've heard the canines are supposed to hurt real bad too.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I've seen those teething necklaces for babies, too, that moms are supposed to wear, but I've never understood the wisdom of trusting choking-sized beads in a babies mouth to chew on secured only by whatever is stringing the necklace, etc.
No, the moms don't wear them. You are supposed to wrap them around your babies wrist or ankle and hope they don't get it loose and chew on it.
I know - but same concept. Both being really stupid.

The new research shows, I know you're going to be shocked here, that the old fashioned methods worked best. Doctors don't recommend Orajel anymore because they are seeing a whole new set of problems with babies being overdosed on it. Same thing with Tylenol. They say the pain is so intermittent that it really isn't effective at relieving pain. They recommend frozen teething things and cold wet rags to chew on. Who would have known that us old people actually knew what the hell we were doing?

weltschmerz · Guru

Amber does contain succinic acid, but certainly not enough to get absorbed through the skin or block pain pathways. It's also a precursor to acetylsalicylic acid, or aspirin. Why would you eschew PROVABLE analgesics and use this? There's virtually no evidence that it works.
"No I don't give my child real medicine. I prefer an unprovable aspirin precursor."
Use teething rings from the freezer. Cold most definitely works against inflammation.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

A lot of cultures believe in the "power" of different stones.

Gemstone Meanings

Amazonite

AmazoniteA stone of healing which aligns the physical body & energy field, thus producing a balancing, preventive & rejuvenating energy. Eliminates aggravation by dispelling irritating & negative energy. Assists with relationships by enhancing communication concerning love. Can be found in the Turtle Light Catcher.

Amethyst

AmethystA "stone of change, protection & enlightenment". Enhances spiritual awareness, meditation, visualization, serenity & composure. Attracts good luck & love, calms & transforms. Shifts energies to the higher frequencies of both the spiritual & ethereal levels. Can be found in the Bear, Dragonfly, Peace, Feng Shui Spirit, Amethyst Angel, Faery Queen, Faery Princess, Chakra and Kokopeli Light Catchers as well as the Peace & Calm Amplifier and Negativity Protector Car Charms.

Aventurine

AventurineA powerful general healer, it brings balance to the intellect, emotions & physical being. Quells anxiety, helps in making the right decisions & shields energy drain from outside sources. Can be found in Hopi Healing Hand Light Catcher.

Blue Lace Agate

Blue Lace AgateAwakens perceptiveness & awareness, clears the mind and enhances spiritual inspiration. Calms, soothes and uplifts thoughts. Eliminates negativity and anger. Can be found in the Eagle, Owl, Wolf, Peace, Faery Queen and Faery Princess Light Catchers.

Blue Topaz

Blue TopazAssists one in attaining clarity to successfully communicate & manifest desires. Lifts burdens & helps one to see the great overall scheme of life, the "big picture". Attracts abundance & love; relieves tension. Can be found in the Eagle and Whale Light Catchers.

Carnelian

CarnelianStimulates the energy of love & joy. Clears negative energy, allowing light to enter & transformation to occur. Has a stabilizing effect on energy in the home. Awakens inner talents & creativity. Can be found in the Deer, Hummingbird, Feng Shui Fame, Chakra & Kokopeli Light Catchers.

Chrysocolla

ChrysocollaSupports balance & harmony, relationships & self-improvement. Eases emotions bringing renewed strength & balance in love, communication & healing. Helps one to connect with Earth energies, promoting harmony, vitality & endurance during stressful situations. Supports mediation, visualization & reflective insights. Can be found in the Feng Shui Family and Celtic Earth Light Catchers.

Citrine

CitrineBalances & energizes, dissipates negative energy. Enhances personal power, emotional awareness, creativity & optimism. Stimulates abundance by assisting one to acquire wealth & to maintain a state of wealth. Can be found in the Hummingbird, Lion, Feng Shui Creativity, Feng Shui Wealth and Chakra Light Catchers.

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Coral

CoralFacilitates intuition, imagination, and visualization & strengthens understanding of mysticism. Alleviates depression, quiets the emotions ands brings peace. Strengthens the connection to the harmonious energies of the universe.

Fluorite

FluoriteKnown as a "stone of discernment". Helps to find truth that has been concealed. Eases change and brings strength and protection during transition. Stabilizes energy and helps to bring order to chaos. Supports relationships - individuals & groups - to flourish towards the greatest good. Can be found in the Butterfly and Dragonfly Light Catchers.

Fossil

FossilSupports growth & the achievement of goals by releasing limiting beliefs & old programming, encouraging openness to novel & innovative opportunities, which are available. An excellent stone for use in business to increase business accomplishments and to imbue quality & distinction within one's environment.

Garnet

GarnetEnergizes, revitalizes and balances energy. Inspires love and devotion. Enhances sexuality and as a "stone of health" clears negative energy & enhances personal power for success. Can be found in the Love Lights Passion, Long Life, Feng Shui Fame and Chakra Light Catchers.

Gold Stone (Gold or Blue)

GoldstoneA manmade stone rich in copper. Activates root and sacral chakras enhancing the energies of intuition, sexuality, desire and vitality. Encourages faith that love is attainable once all limiting beliefs are released. Acts as a mood stabilizer on either spectrum-excitability or passivity.

Hematite

HematiteA "stone of mental mastery". Enhances memory, concentration & focus. Deflects negativity. Stimulates the desire for peace and inner happiness, enhancing one's ability to attract love. Can be found in the Turtle, Long Life, Yin/Yang, Feng Shui Career and Circle of Life Light Catchers as well as the Negativity Protector Car Charm.

Howlite

HowliteA "tranquility stone". Calms communication, enhances emotional expression & eliminates stress, rage and rudeness. Assists with the attainment of goals by encouraging ambition and eliminating hesitation. Can be found in the Yin/Yang Light Catcher as well as the Road Rage Protector Car Charm.

Jade (Nephrite)

JadeConnected with love & virtue, called the "fidelity stone" - balances energies between self/partner & opposing energies in both the internal & external domain of one's reality. Promotes peace & harmony, soothes energy. Assists in finding wisdom for problem solving. Can be found in the Frog and Feng Shui Wealth Light Catchers.

Jadeite (Lavender, White, Yellow)

Yellow Jadeite White JadeiteStone of "Magic" brings protection from the spiritual realm. Encourages group cohesiveness, understanding & actualization of purpose. Assists in grounding & accessing limitless resources of the universe. Can be found in the Buffalo, Owl, Whale, Good Luck, Peace, Feng Shui Travel, Faery and Circle of Life Light Catchers.

Jasper

Known as the "Supreme Nurturer", Jasper reminds us why we are here - to assist others to free themselves from limiting bonds & bring joy & light into the world. Helps to balance & unite the energy of the physical with the spiritual toward the attainment of goals. Can be used when one's energy is "low" and to provide protection against negativity.

Fancy Jasper

Fancy JasperFancy Jasper is a stone of gentleness and relaxation. Each piece brings about tranquility and enhances ones ability to relax. Fancy Jasper aids serenity and helps eliminate stress, worry and depression. With this inward relaxation, the wearer has the chance to free their mind and think clearly.

Picture Jasper

Picture JasperA stone of proportion & harmony, wear any time protection from negativity is desired. A stone of “Global Awareness”, it stimulates creative visualization. It promotes spiritual affinity between humanity & nature. It can be used to further both the development and continuance of business pursuits.

Red Jasper

Red JasperHelps to rectify unfair situations, helps one to remember previous leanings & to take responsibility for ones life. A stone to help you connect with earth energies, it facilitates the remembering of dreams especially those aspects important to one’s life. Can be found in the Dragon Light Catcher.

Labradorite

LabradoriteProtects the Aura and facilitates understanding of ones chosen destiny. Helps to keep the Aura clear, balanced, protected & free from energy leaks. Facilitates the understanding of ones chosen destiny & enhances the connection between physical, ethereal & planetary realms. Supports originality & uniqueness.

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Lapis Lazuli

Lapis Lazuli A "stone of protection and enlightenment". Assists with spiritual growth, intuitive perception and objectivity. Mentally calming, supports clarity & helps one to organize day to day activities. Enhances serenity, acceptance and dreams. Can be found in the Bear, Serenity, Feng Shui Career and Chakra Light Catchers.

Malachite

MalachiteA "stone of transformation". Assists in coping with setbacks, challenges & changing situations. Aids in releasing negative emotional experiences. Helps to intuit answers, to create an unobstructed path & to identify the steps needed to attain desired result. Brings loyalty in love, friendships and partnerships. Can be found in the Butterfly, Feng Shui Family and Chakra Light Catchers.

Moonstone

MoonstoneA “stone of changes & wishes”. Helps to clear obstacles on the path of destiny. Supports wellbeing & enhances awareness of body rhythms allowing for a better balance of the body's natural energy. Can be found in the Dolphin, Owl, Wolf, Feng Shui Travel, Goddess and Triskele Light Catchers as well as the Traveler’s Protector Car Charm.

Peridot

PeridotA "stone of rebirth & renewal". Promotes peace & happiness; attracts success & good luck. Protects against negativity & nightmares. Healing to damaged relationships. Attracts comfort & builds vitality. Can be found in the Buffalo Light Catcher.

Quartz

QuartzQuartz empowers & protects by amplifying & focusing energy. Stores, releases and regulates energy; Facilitates growth and awareness, alleviates anger & opens the spirit for meditation and spiritual development. Can be found in the Peace & Calm Amplifier, Road Rage Protector and Traveler’s Protector Car Charms.

Rose Quartz

Rose QuartzKnown as the "Stone of Love". Rose Quartz soothes, comforts & reassures, bringing about deep inner healing. Gently removes negativity & attracts the energy of love bringing peacefulness & calm to relationships. Can be found in the Deer, Frog, Love Lights Romance, Feng Shui Relationship and Archangel Ariel - Rose Quartz Light Catchers.

Rhodonite

RhodoniteHas been called "the stone of love". This love embodies care for humanity and spiritual wellbeing. Brings order to chaos. Supportive emotionally, balances and eases anxiety through clear vision. Can be found in the Celtic Heart and Feng Shui Relationship Light Catchers.

Sodalite

SodaliteUnites logic and intuition, enhances mediation & inner wisdom. Excellent stone for group work - mentally calming, it eliminates confusion and supports increased efficiency & organization. Helps to define clarity of purpose & direction, & to resolve issues with logic. Can be found in the Lion and Wolf Light Catchers.

Tiger's Eye

Tiger's EyeHelps to gain insight, to concentrate, to perceive & think more clearly, and to organize scattered details. Calms turmoil, eliminates the "blues" & encourages optimism & enthusiasm for life. Stimulates wealth & enhances the ability to maintain wealth. Can be found in the Feng Shui Wisdom Light Catcher.

Tree Agate

Tree AgateHas a cleansing, balancing & stabilizing effect to wellbeing. Enhances self-esteem, clarity, perceptiveness & awakens inner talents & abilities. Helps to see the world through a broader point of view. It fosters abundance, wealth, Love & connection with nature. Can be found in the Good Luck and Feng Shui Wealth Light Catchers.

Turquoise

TurquoiseAn "anti-negativity stone" & general healer. Dispels negative energy & protects. Encourages self-realization and creative problem solving. Strengthens the body and energy field. Heals the spirit; soothes and brings peace of mind. Attracts love. Can be found in the Dolphin, Chakra and Circle of Life Light Catchers.

Unakite

UnakiteHelps to bring attention into the 'present'. Provides gentle release of limiting blocks & conditions to personal growth. Balances emotions and strengthens spiritual connection.

Zoisite

ZoisiteSupports individuality, creativity and uniqueness while maintaining connectedness with humanity. It is considered an excellent healer and energizer of the life force. Can be used to dispel laziness and idleness and is thought to improve health after long periods of illness or stress. Helps amplify the whole energy field of a person, to release inner talents of the mind.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I've seen those teething necklaces for babies, too, that moms are supposed to wear, but I've never understood the wisdom of trusting choking-sized beads in a babies mouth to chew on secured only by whatever is stringing the necklace, etc.
No, the moms don't wear them. You are supposed to wrap them around your babies wrist or ankle and hope they don't get it loose and chew on it.
I know - but same concept. Both being really stupid.
The new research shows, I know you're going to be shocked here, that the old fashioned methods worked best. Doctors don't recommend Orajel anymore because they are seeing a whole new set of problems with babies being overdosed on it. Same thing with Tylenol. They say the pain is so intermittent that it really isn't effective at relieving pain. They recommend frozen teething things and cold wet rags to chew on. Who would have known that us old people actually knew what the hell we were doing?

What about whiskey?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

weltschmerz wrote:
Amber does contain succinic acid, but certainly not enough to get absorbed through the skin or block pain pathways. It's also a precursor to acetylsalicylic acid, or aspirin. Why would you eschew PROVABLE analgesics and use this? There's virtually no evidence that it works.
"No I don't give my child real medicine. I prefer an unprovable aspirin precursor."
Use teething rings from the freezer. Cold most definitely works against inflammation.

BOLD Thank you! I couldn't remember the name of what was in it. My short term memory sucks! I do remember that he said it had some in it.

Underlined He was what iffing this part. So what IF it had enough of it in there to help. Which leads to...

Italics He was saying it was dumb to throw away modern proved medicine to use something that had no research behind it.

Interesting article. I've seen an upswing in these things. They sell for about $40.

weltschmerz · Guru

Apparently, if you drink booze out of an amethyst goblet, you won't get a hangover. Any takers willing to experiment? I don't drink.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I've seen those teething necklaces for babies, too, that moms are supposed to wear, but I've never understood the wisdom of trusting choking-sized beads in a babies mouth to chew on secured only by whatever is stringing the necklace, etc.
No, the moms don't wear them. You are supposed to wrap them around your babies wrist or ankle and hope they don't get it loose and chew on it.
I know - but same concept. Both being really stupid.
The new research shows, I know you're going to be shocked here, that the old fashioned methods worked best. Doctors don't recommend Orajel anymore because they are seeing a whole new set of problems with babies being overdosed on it. Same thing with Tylenol. They say the pain is so intermittent that it really isn't effective at relieving pain. They recommend frozen teething things and cold wet rags to chew on. Who would have known that us old people actually knew what the hell we were doing?
What about whiskey?

Hahahaha... In the comments a doctor wrote in and said he recommended whiskey for his patients. He had the exact milliliters measured out. He recommended giving one dose, moving the child, and if the crying didn't stop, giving the second dose. He said general the more does you give and the further you move from the irritant the better results you'll get! It was hysterical.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

weltschmerz wrote:
Apparently, if you drink booze out of an amethyst goblet, you won't get a hangover. Any takers willing to experiment? I don't drink.

I don't really drink either. Every once in a blue moon. Never been drunk. I don't think I'm a good candidate for this experiment.

weltschmerz · Guru

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NAOW · Vette's SS

Oh. Thank God. I thought this was going to be a thread saying how awesome these things are.

No. I don't believe in them. Because science. I can't believe how crazy this fad has gotten.

It doesn't 'melt' with the kid's body temperature, and if it did, it doesn't absorb through the skin. If it somehow did, it wouldn't be enough to help (and why would you want your child absorbing an unregulated dose of a chemical day in and day out?). It might work better if you have your kid eat the entire necklace in one sitting.

What we do know is that babies and small children shouldn't wear necklaces because of the choking hazard- No, I don't believe for a second that everyone who uses these takes them off every time their kids are asleep or out of their eyesight. Also, if it breaks, it's lots of small choking hazards. The risk seems far greater than the very small and very doubtful benefit.

And because Weltz said it so well, I'm going to repeat it:

Amber does contain succinic acid, but certainly not enough to get absorbed through the skin or block pain pathways. It's also a precursor to acetylsalicylic acid, or aspirin. Why would you eschew PROVABLE analgesics and use this? There's virtually no evidence that it works.
"No I don't give my child real medicine. I prefer an unprovable aspirin precursor."
Use teething rings from the freezer. Cold most definitely works against inflammation.

-- Edited by NAOW on Monday 3rd of August 2015 03:23:33 PM

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

weltschmerz wrote:
Apparently, if you drink booze out of an amethyst goblet, you won't get a hangover. Any takers willing to experiment? I don't drink.

If you will buy me an amethyst goblet I'll be the guinea pig!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lexxy wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Apparently, if you drink booze out of an amethyst goblet, you won't get a hangover. Any takers willing to experiment? I don't drink.
If you will buy me an amethyst goblet I'll be the guinea pig!

Yeah, me, too! Amethyst is pretty!

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Hahahaha, NAOW! I love you right now.

I read this mom page for my town. It's not for new moms. It's for all moms. And really there is a lot of stuff that's wonderful on it. People post about free events for the community or sales or all kinds of really really great info. There was one woman who was starting a crocheting class that I wanted to go to. So I don't want to "unfriend" myself from the site. Unfortunately, you have all these younger moms who believe in the latest fads.

I think the hardest part for me is learning to keep my damn mouth shut. The people around here rush their kids to the ER for the slightest temperature. I'm not kidding. They don't call their on call doc. They don't wait till morning. Slightest fever and they are in the ER. It drives me absolutely nuts. I often want to make a comment but I usually refrain and give the advice to call the on call doc. So frustrating.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Hahahaha, NAOW! I love you right now.

I read this mom page for my town. It's not for new moms. It's for all moms. And really there is a lot of stuff that's wonderful on it. People post about free events for the community or sales or all kinds of really really great info. There was one woman who was starting a crocheting class that I wanted to go to. So I don't want to "unfriend" myself from the site. Unfortunately, you have all these younger moms who believe in the latest fads.

I think the hardest part for me is learning to keep my damn mouth shut. The people around here rush their kids to the ER for the slightest temperature. I'm not kidding. They don't call their on call doc. They don't wait till morning. Slightest fever and they are in the ER. It drives me absolutely nuts. I often want to make a comment but I usually refrain and give the advice to call the on call doc. So frustrating.

Oh, I know. I'm a member of all the 'mom' groups in my town. So many moms believe in their effectiveness, you can't say a word against them without being ganged up on.

I've seen the same with the ER too.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I'll stick with Tylenol and baby oragel and cold teething rings.

weltschmerz · Guru

NAOW wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Hahahaha, NAOW! I love you right now.

I read this mom page for my town. It's not for new moms. It's for all moms. And really there is a lot of stuff that's wonderful on it. People post about free events for the community or sales or all kinds of really really great info. There was one woman who was starting a crocheting class that I wanted to go to. So I don't want to "unfriend" myself from the site. Unfortunately, you have all these younger moms who believe in the latest fads.

I think the hardest part for me is learning to keep my damn mouth shut. The people around here rush their kids to the ER for the slightest temperature. I'm not kidding. They don't call their on call doc. They don't wait till morning. Slightest fever and they are in the ER. It drives me absolutely nuts. I often want to make a comment but I usually refrain and give the advice to call the on call doc. So frustrating.
Oh, I know. I'm a member of all the 'mom' groups in my town. So many moms believe in their effectiveness, you can't say a word against them without being ganged up on.
I've seen the same with the ER too.

I know I'll get flamed for this, but many moms still believe that sugar causes hyperactivity in toddlers. It doesn't.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And when giving your kid a dose of Tylenol for teething, rub some directly on the gums. It absorbs into the mouth and blood stream faster and starts helping ease the pain quicker.

NAOW · Vette's SS

I prefer Motrin as soon as they are old enough for it at six months. I don't notice much difference when I give them Tylenol.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
NAOW wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Hahahaha, NAOW! I love you right now.

I read this mom page for my town. It's not for new moms. It's for all moms. And really there is a lot of stuff that's wonderful on it. People post about free events for the community or sales or all kinds of really really great info. There was one woman who was starting a crocheting class that I wanted to go to. So I don't want to "unfriend" myself from the site. Unfortunately, you have all these younger moms who believe in the latest fads.

I think the hardest part for me is learning to keep my damn mouth shut. The people around here rush their kids to the ER for the slightest temperature. I'm not kidding. They don't call their on call doc. They don't wait till morning. Slightest fever and they are in the ER. It drives me absolutely nuts. I often want to make a comment but I usually refrain and give the advice to call the on call doc. So frustrating.
Oh, I know. I'm a member of all the 'mom' groups in my town. So many moms believe in their effectiveness, you can't say a word against them without being ganged up on.
I've seen the same with the ER too.
I know I'll get flamed for this, but many moms still believe that sugar causes hyperactivity in toddlers. It doesn't.

I'm going to disagree with you there. I know that's the new "thing", but my experience says otherwise. With my kids AND with my husband. If that man eats anything sugary after 4:00 (YES 4:00), I'm in for a long night.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

weltschmerz wrote:
NAOW wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Hahahaha, NAOW! I love you right now.

I read this mom page for my town. It's not for new moms. It's for all moms. And really there is a lot of stuff that's wonderful on it. People post about free events for the community or sales or all kinds of really really great info. There was one woman who was starting a crocheting class that I wanted to go to. So I don't want to "unfriend" myself from the site. Unfortunately, you have all these younger moms who believe in the latest fads.

I think the hardest part for me is learning to keep my damn mouth shut. The people around here rush their kids to the ER for the slightest temperature. I'm not kidding. They don't call their on call doc. They don't wait till morning. Slightest fever and they are in the ER. It drives me absolutely nuts. I often want to make a comment but I usually refrain and give the advice to call the on call doc. So frustrating.
Oh, I know. I'm a member of all the 'mom' groups in my town. So many moms believe in their effectiveness, you can't say a word against them without being ganged up on.
I've seen the same with the ER too.
I know I'll get flamed for this, but many moms still believe that sugar causes hyperactivity in toddlers. It doesn't.

I don't think sugar causes ADD or ADHD, but I do know it gets them wired up for a while.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

NAOW wrote:
I prefer Motrin as soon as they are old enough for it at six months. I don't notice much difference when I give them Tylenol.

That works too.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

When DD11 was about 3, she was really, really thirsty one day and the only thing available nearby was a soda vending machine. I chose what I thought was the least horrible choice - orange Crush. That was at about 5:30. I'm not exagerating when I tell you my kid was bouncing off the walls until 11:00 at night.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

People are over dosing their babies on Tylenol these days. Like any other medicine it is good but can be abused when people give it for anything and everything.

weltschmerz · Guru

www.webmd.com/parenting/features/busting-sugar-hyperactivity-myth

www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp

www.parenting.com/article/sugar-does-it-make-kids-hyper

Is sugar GOOD for kids? Absolutely not. There are a host of problems with consuming sugar. However, the idea that sugar makes kids wild or wired is untrue.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I gave my kids watered down coke at an early age. 1 part coke to 3 parts water and shaken till it didn't fizz.

Flame me. They lived, I lived. Life goes on.

Did you know if you have motion sickness, you can ease it with a coke that has had all the fizz shook out?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Uh-huh. Just like cold medicine has no benefit for kids, either.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't know why anyone wouldn't use the time tested medicines to help their kid.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Uh-huh. Just like cold medicine has no benefit for kids, either.

Can you explain? I'm not sure what you are trying to say here and I don't want to assume!

NAOW · Vette's SS

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Uh-huh. Just like cold medicine has no benefit for kids, either.
Can you explain? I'm not sure what you are trying to say here and I don't want to assume!

Same here.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Even time tested medicines can be abused. And IMO some holistic medicines really do work. Life is about balance.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And I am not talking about abusing a medicine.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

NAOW wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Uh-huh. Just like cold medicine has no benefit for kids, either.
Can you explain? I'm not sure what you are trying to say here and I don't want to assume!
Same here.

Well, cold medicines all simply relieve the sypmtoms of a cold - for everyone, even an adult. They don't cure it or shorten it. So, the FDA says kids under 6 don't need cold medicine b/c it doesn't do anything to cure the cold. Well, duh. BUT, just like it does others, it does relieve the symptoms - which allows kids to rest better, which allows them to get better faster. Sleep is the best thing for a cold, and cold medicine relieves symptoms so that you can sleep. Therefore, they DO have a benefit.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Lawyerlady wrote:
NAOW wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Uh-huh. Just like cold medicine has no benefit for kids, either.
Can you explain? I'm not sure what you are trying to say here and I don't want to assume!
Same here.
Well, cold medicines all simply relieve the sypmtoms of a cold - for everyone, even an adult. They don't cure it or shorten it. So, the FDA says kids under 6 don't need cold medicine b/c it doesn't do anything to cure the cold. Well, duh. BUT, just like it does others, it does relieve the symptoms - which allows kids to rest better, which allows them to get better faster. Sleep is the best thing for a cold, and cold medicine relieves symptoms so that you can sleep. Therefore, they DO have a benefit.

Oh I see. I thought it was banned because parents kept overdosing their kids on cold medicine. But I think this reason probably sounds more legit. Even if it's not true.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Frozen washcloths. Messy but effective.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

NAOW wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
NAOW wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Uh-huh. Just like cold medicine has no benefit for kids, either.
Can you explain? I'm not sure what you are trying to say here and I don't want to assume!
Same here.
Well, cold medicines all simply relieve the sypmtoms of a cold - for everyone, even an adult. They don't cure it or shorten it. So, the FDA says kids under 6 don't need cold medicine b/c it doesn't do anything to cure the cold. Well, duh. BUT, just like it does others, it does relieve the symptoms - which allows kids to rest better, which allows them to get better faster. Sleep is the best thing for a cold, and cold medicine relieves symptoms so that you can sleep. Therefore, they DO have a benefit.
Oh I see. I thought it was banned because parents kept overdosing their kids on cold medicine. But I think this reason probably sounds more legit. Even if it's not true.

Well, I think that is why, too, but the reason they gave is that it does not do anything except relieve symptoms.

Of course, doctors still tell you to use it when it is needed. And without directions, people are now more likely to overdose thier kid, IMO.

ed11563 · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
NAOW wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
NAOW wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Uh-huh. Just like cold medicine has no benefit for kids, either.
Can you explain? I'm not sure what you are trying to say here and I don't want to assume!
Same here.
Well, cold medicines all simply relieve the sypmtoms of a cold - for everyone, even an adult. They don't cure it or shorten it. So, the FDA says kids under 6 don't need cold medicine b/c it doesn't do anything to cure the cold. Well, duh. BUT, just like it does others, it does relieve the symptoms - which allows kids to rest better, which allows them to get better faster. Sleep is the best thing for a cold, and cold medicine relieves symptoms so that you can sleep. Therefore, they DO have a benefit.
Oh I see. I thought it was banned because parents kept overdosing their kids on cold medicine. But I think this reason probably sounds more legit. Even if it's not true.
Well, I think that is why, too, but the reason they gave is that it does not do anything except relieve symptoms.
Of course, doctors still tell you to use it when it is needed. And without directions, people are now more likely to overdose thier kid, IMO.

The reasons the FDA gave, which still apply, are

*** There has been NO TESTING to determine safety or efficacy or appropriate dosage, done involving CHILDREN. In fact. all the clinical testing was done on adult MEN. No women were included either.

*** The "recommended dosages" for children and for women were GUESSES.

*** The potential side effects for use with children (and women) were and still are GUESSES.

Personally, as much as I did appreciate having liquid Sudafed and Actifed to use with my kids, I seriously agree with the FDA that relying on guesses is a bad thing.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Did your kids do just fine using those things? Mine did.

Again, why would anyone not use time tested medicines to help their kid?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
NAOW wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
NAOW wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Uh-huh. Just like cold medicine has no benefit for kids, either.
Can you explain? I'm not sure what you are trying to say here and I don't want to assume!
Same here.
Well, cold medicines all simply relieve the sypmtoms of a cold - for everyone, even an adult. They don't cure it or shorten it. So, the FDA says kids under 6 don't need cold medicine b/c it doesn't do anything to cure the cold. Well, duh. BUT, just like it does others, it does relieve the symptoms - which allows kids to rest better, which allows them to get better faster. Sleep is the best thing for a cold, and cold medicine relieves symptoms so that you can sleep. Therefore, they DO have a benefit.
Oh I see. I thought it was banned because parents kept overdosing their kids on cold medicine. But I think this reason probably sounds more legit. Even if it's not true.
Well, I think that is why, too, but the reason they gave is that it does not do anything except relieve symptoms.
Of course, doctors still tell you to use it when it is needed. And without directions, people are now more likely to overdose thier kid, IMO.

No, there were actually a bunch of cases where stupid parents thought that if one teaspoon of cold medicine made their child feel better than two teaspoons should make them feel even better than that. Kids were being overdosed by dumb parents. It DOES relieve the symptoms only of the cold. And it works super great if you give them enough to kill them. They won't fuss a bit after that.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Oh good Lord.

So a responsible parent shouldn't use those products because a few stupid parents did?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Responsible parents should be able to do a lot of things. It's the stupid parents that make life hard for the good ones. I know people who give Tylenol for EVERYTHING. Kid is tired? Tylenol. Kid is fussy. Tylenol. Kid is crying? Tylenol. Kid looks different than normal? Tylenol.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

It works when they are fussy and tired and crying.

The kid can't tell you if something is wrong. At the end of the day, it can help relieve any pain from being carried, put in and out of car seats, buggies, high chairs, riding hips and just being handled.

As long as the directions are followed, it won't hurt them at all.

chef · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
It works when they are fussy and tired and crying.

The kid can't tell you if something is wrong. At the end of the day, it can help relieve any pain from being carried, put in and out of car seats, buggies, high chairs, riding hips and just being handled.

As long as the directions are followed, it won't hurt them at all.

It can. They could build up a resistance to it then it won't be effective when they really do need it.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

If a child is in pain from being carried, put in and out of car seats, buggies, high chairs, or being on your hip or being handled you are doing something wrong as a parent. Either that or there's something wrong with your child. None of those activities should cause pain to any normal child.