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Addressing Refuse-to-Work Syndrome

A person, supported by you, refuses to bring in income. What to do?
 
Posted Sep 06, 2015
 
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I have had many clients who work themselves to exhaustion, often to physical sickness, even a heart attack, to support his/her family, and begs the spouse to earn more than a pittance to contribute to the family income. Yet that spouse, who claims to love the person, refuses. I term such people as having Refuse-to-Work Syndrome.

The typical scenario is that the income-earning spouse works very full-time on a job s/he doesn't really like but needs in order to pay not only for family basics but for a nicer home than necessary and other non-essential expenses the not-working spouse refuses to stop spending on: extra clothes, new furniture, restaurant meals, etc.

The working spouse tries everything to get the spouse with Refuse-to-Work Syndrome to look for a job. S/he asks nicely, begs, gets angry, hopes s/he's planted a seed and gives it time. Nothing works.

 

The non-working spouse has an endless array of excuses for which the working spouse gives a perfectly reasonable response that gets ignored, yes-butted, or at most a half-hearted, rarely fulfilled promise to look for work. Examples of such exchanges:

Refuse-to-Work Spouse: It's hard for a stay-at-home parent to find a job, at least a job that pays enough to compensate for the child care and transportation.

Working Spouse: There are tons of jobs that pay well. You have lots of friends who can open doors. The unemployment rate is 5.2%. You have a college degree. You're capable. Get a job.

Refuse-to-Work Spouse: I have low self-esteem.

Working Spouse: Plenty of people with low self-esteem work. In fact its an affliction of some of our most contributory people: Michelangelo, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Claude Monet, William Faulkner, Winston Churchill, Stephen Hawking, even your favorite actress Kate Winslet. Their low-self steem drove them to work harder, not to give up.

Refuse-to-Work Spouse: The kids need me here.

Working Spouse: That may have been true when they were very little but now, if anything, they'll do better without helicopter parent indulging them and over-protecting them 24/7.

Refuse-to-Work Spouse: The kids will be out of the house in a few years I want to enjoy them while I can.

Working Spouse: There's plenty of time to enjoy them after work, on weekends, and holidays.. Besides, it's better for them to have autonomy. Many studies show that children of working parents do very well. It's good for kids to have a role model of a parent who earns income.

Or s/he deflects attention by blaming the working spouse, for example, "If you did better in your own career, you wouldn't need to be forcing me to leave the kids to be latchkey kids." Thus invoking guilt, the working spouse slinks away.

The person with Refuse-to-Work syndrome sually just passive-aggressively wears down the working spouse with the aforementioned excuses and ploys. Or s/he agrees to look for work but does so half-heartedly and so doesn't land anything and tells spouse, "I tried, but I told you it's's hard for a stay-at-home spouse to find work."

Or if s/he is offered a job, s/he always finds a reason not to accept it unless it is magically perfect, for example, earning a good income working for a favorite nonprofit on a job that is low-stress, starts at 10:00 to allow plenty time to get the kids off to school and get to the job and ends at 2:00 so s/he can be there for her kids after school. If it's for a corporation, s/he expresses antipathy toward corporate America. If the work environment isn't bright and cheery, s/he says, "I can't work in that dingy place. It's depressing." If the hours are long, s/he insists it's unfair to the kids." There's always a reason. 

Or if s/he accepts a position, s/he doesn't work hard at it and so soon gets "laid off" or fired. S/he explains to the working spouse, "It's just too hard working and also being a good homemaker and parent."

So, in the end, the spouse with Refuse-to-Work Syndrome almost always wins---No one can force him or her to work. Or s/he or does a teeny, pleasant very part-time job like giving a few flute lessons a week from home.

While people with Refuse-to-Work Syndrome may have brief periods of earning modest or even moderate income, over the lifespan of the couple, they end up contributing less than 10% of the family income, leaving the primary breadwinner to, through his/her life, work long hours at that job s/he doesn't really like--S/he is, like the donkey above, a beast of burden.

What's a beast of burden to do?

Few of the working spouses choose to divorce their refuse-to-work spouse over it. They just feel unloved and after a while, give up and don the yoke of said beast of burden.

Instead, if you are enmweshed with a refuse-to-work partner, you might want to show this article to him or her. It will likely yield a very difficult conversation but one perhaps worth having. To avoid it devolving into a screaming match, you might want to do it in a public place, like your spouse's favorite quiet restaurant.

Marty Nemko's bio is in Wikipedia.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/how-do-life/201509/addressing-refuse-work-syndrome

 



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OK - one, either you discussed this when you had kids or you didn't. Two, if your spouse really won't work and really keeps spending like a loon - cut the purse strings. Cancel joint credit cards, put the money in a separate account and give spouse an allowance that only meets household needs.

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You have to be realistic though. There aren't all these great jobs out there where you are suddenly going to make $50 an hour.

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Lawyerlady wrote:

OK - one, either you discussed this when you had kids or you didn't. Two, if your spouse really won't work and really keeps spending like a loon - cut the purse strings. Cancel joint credit cards, put the money in a separate account and give spouse an allowance that only meets household needs.


 A friend of mine (male) just divorced his wife who refused to work.  She fits every point in this article.  She is an extremely lazy person. They have 3 kids and did discuss who would work, when, etc before having kids.  Once the youngest was in school, the wife was supposed to work, even if just part time. She would take a job and then be "laid off" .  This went on for 12 years.  He divorced her (other reasons).  One of the kids chose to live with him, the  oldest child turned 18 last month so he pays little is child support for the other child living with her and he only has to pay alimony for 3 years plus pay for the ex to take some college courses.

Prior to the divorce being final, he was having to pay the mortgage on the house and rent a place for himslef and his one kid.  She stupidly thought that a judge would make him to continue pay all the bills.  She had bad advice from friends.

BTW, she also had been cheating on him.

 



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There are lots of ways to work. Not always paid. If the spouse is working a traditional job, then if you are home, then clean the damn house and cook something. It isn't that hard. Try to make each other's life more pleasant.

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My boyfriend works his butt off, and makes good money, and saves hard. He ended several relationships after girls assumed he would let them move in and then they could just not work and he would pay for everything..

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

There are lots of ways to work. Not always paid. If the spouse is working a traditional job, then if you are home, then clean the damn house and cook something. It isn't that hard. Try to make each other's life more pleasant.


 The friend is the scenario I described had to do the cooking and cleaning after working 10 hour days because his ex was that lazy.



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That gets old real fast.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

You have to be realistic though. There aren't all these great jobs out there where you are suddenly going to make $50 an hour.


No.  But there are a LOT of them in the $12-20 dollar per hour range depending on your skills. 



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huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

You have to be realistic though. There aren't all these great jobs out there where you are suddenly going to make $50 an hour.


No.  But there are a LOT of them in the $12-20 dollar per hour range depending on your skills. 


 And day care can cost about that much or more, so there are considerations. My cousin is a physicians assistant in a very reputable practice in Philadelphia. She was working 3 days a week until she crunched the numbers. As a physicians assistant making 6 figures, she wasn't coming out ahead on the child care situation once you factored in transportation, meals, etc. If she couldn't make it work,how do we expect people to work menial jobs and make it? 

 

** she has 3 kids under the age of 5 so that may be the tipping point. It's ridiculously expensive to have 3 kids in daycare. 



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huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

You have to be realistic though. There aren't all these great jobs out there where you are suddenly going to make $50 an hour.


No.  But there are a LOT of them in the $12-20 dollar per hour range depending on your skills. 


 And day care can cost about that much or more, so there are considerations. My cousin is a physicians assistant in a very reputable practice in Philadelphia. She was working 3 days a week until she crunched the numbers. As a physicians assistant making 6 figures, she wasn't coming out ahead on the child care situation once you factored in transportation, meals, etc. If she couldn't make it work,how do we expect people to work menial jobs and make it? 

 

** she has 3 kids under the age of 5 so that may be the tipping point. It's ridiculously expensive to have 3 kids in daycare. 


Sure, there are always considerations--but once all the kids are in school, it makes a big difference, or even all but one.   



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One of many reasons Bunny is an only child is that we couldn't afford to have two children in daycare and we also couldn't afford to go without my income.
That's only one reason out of many, but it was consideration.

When I was unable to work for six months our home was freaking spotless. That was before the kid and I wasn't able to drive so I really didn't have anything else to do besides clean. I don't understand why a person staying at home couldn't at least keep up with the housework.

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huskerbb wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

You have to be realistic though. There aren't all these great jobs out there where you are suddenly going to make $50 an hour.


No.  But there are a LOT of them in the $12-20 dollar per hour range depending on your skills. 


 And day care can cost about that much or more, so there are considerations. My cousin is a physicians assistant in a very reputable practice in Philadelphia. She was working 3 days a week until she crunched the numbers. As a physicians assistant making 6 figures, she wasn't coming out ahead on the child care situation once you factored in transportation, meals, etc. If she couldn't make it work,how do we expect people to work menial jobs and make it? 

 

** she has 3 kids under the age of 5 so that may be the tipping point. It's ridiculously expensive to have 3 kids in daycare. 


Sure, there are always considerations--but once all the kids are in school, it makes a big difference, or even all but one.   


 The thing is, some people may think it isn't worth it to work when the day care expenses total nearly what you make, but the thing is, if you keep working your resume continues to build and daycare, at least the huge full time expense, is only for a few years.



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