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An 11-month-old boy died in Georgia over the weekend when his grandparents forgot him in the car for two hours, according to police.

Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson said the boy's grandparents were baby-sitting Saturday while the mother, who works the night shift, slept at home.

According to Wilson, the grandparents took the baby to church in Chickamauga along with another one of their adult daughters and another grandchild, but when they returned home, Wilson said they forgot him in the car.

That was at around 3 p.m., a time when the sweltering northwest Georgia heat hit 90 degrees. In those conditions, Wilson said "temperature in a closed vehicle can reach as high as 131 to 172 degrees in as little as 15 minutes."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/06/us/georgia-infant-hot-car-death/index.html

 



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Oh my gosh! That poor baby.

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Jeepers!

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Its probably the fault of Church.

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How can three adults forget a baby?

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And this seems to happen again and again and again. So many articles telling the same thing. What are people thinking (or not...)?

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So horrible, I shudder at reading these stories. I am so glad my DD is 10 and able to get herself out of such situations, but when she was a baby and I had to let my ex have her, who often times allowed his mother, who is a dizt, take her I worried constantly.

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How can three adults forget a baby?


 I know!  And like Karl said this isn't the first time it hit the news...



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How can three adults forget a baby?


 My thoughts exactly. Plus another grandchild was with them and could have said "what about Baby?"  Not that I think it's the child's responsibility, but my kids would have asked why their cousin wasn't getting out too. 

I hope they throw the book at these 3.



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Good grief. When you get in the front door and sit your butt down on the couch to watch TV, there isn't ONE instant where it crosses your mind that maybe something isn't right with this picture?

"Forgetting" is NOT A GODDAMN EXCUSE. You are NOT ALLOWED to make this kind of "mistake".

I'm sick and tired of this happening. We need to start charging these nitwits with child endangerment, neglect, or something.

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Good grief. When you get in the front door and sit your butt down on the couch to watch TV, there isn't ONE instant where it crosses your mind that maybe something isn't right with this picture?

"Forgetting" is NOT A GODDAMN EXCUSE. You are NOT ALLOWED to make this kind of "mistake".

I'm sick and tired of this happening. We need to start charging these nitwits with child endangerment, neglect, or something.


 I don't often agree with you. But I agree 100% with all of this. 



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So mom was working? Where TF was Dad?


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So mom was working? Where TF was Dad?


What  difference does it make?  He was in the care of his grandparents.  Also, mom was not working, but it's irrelevant, anyway, the grandparents had the kid. 



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How awful.



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Good grief. When you get in the front door and sit your butt down on the couch to watch TV, there isn't ONE instant where it crosses your mind that maybe something isn't right with this picture?

"Forgetting" is NOT A GODDAMN EXCUSE. You are NOT ALLOWED to make this kind of "mistake".

I'm sick and tired of this happening. We need to start charging these nitwits with child endangerment, neglect, or something.


Maybe they were watching Project Runway??

 

 

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Good grief. When you get in the front door and sit your butt down on the couch to watch TV, there isn't ONE instant where it crosses your mind that maybe something isn't right with this picture?

"Forgetting" is NOT A GODDAMN EXCUSE. You are NOT ALLOWED to make this kind of "mistake".

I'm sick and tired of this happening. We need to start charging these nitwits with child endangerment, neglect, or something.


 I don't often agree with you. But I agree 100% with all of this. 


 ME TOO!  And every time one of these babies die in a hot car people come out of the woodwork crying about how the person didn't MEAN for it to happen.  Don't care!  Most drunks don't MEAN to crash and kill someone either but they do sometimes.  If a child dies in a hot car where you left them, IT'S YOUR FAULT.



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I have forgotten my sunglasses, my purse, my checkbook, my phone, my credit cards, the diaper bag, the shushie (pacifier), extra diapers, an extra bottle...I have never forgotten a CHILD! I have zero sympathy for anyone who does. It just not possible that a breathing human being who operates a car can forget a child inside of it. Why aren't you talking to the child? Singing? Engaging with them in a myriad of ways? I don't get it. It's neglect and abuse and they should get the book thrown at them, while they are in a hot car.

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Because everyone makes excuses! I forgot. I didn't mean it. It was an accident. And on and on. If you leave your child or a child in your care in a car and they die then you NEED to be charged.

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Yes. But this has happened often enough that we need some safety measures.

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Yes. But this has happened often enough that we need some safety measures.


 The safety measure is taking the kid out of the car.



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Husker is right. You are just plain not allowed to "forget" children when you are the care-giver at that time.

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Husker is right. You are just plain not allowed to "forget" children when you are the care-giver at that time.


 Think of it this way.  If you hire someone to care for your kid, would you be so willing to forgive if they "forgot" your kid and something terrible happened?  Why do you get off if you wouldn't let them?



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I have only watched Itty bitty a few times at her house. If I ever get to take her somewhere in my car, there is NO WAY IN HELL that I could "forget" her.

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It says mom was sleeping because she works nights. Been there.

Grandparents said they would watch child.

Now my questions are, are these maternal or paternal grandparents? How often were they allowed with the child? Could it have been intentional?

And yes, it seems there is more forgetting these days. I blame that on all the devices we have.

I do not understand forgetting children. It was, and is, the first thought I have about everything I do.



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It says mom was sleeping because she works nights. Been there.

Grandparents said they would watch child.

Now my questions are, are these maternal or paternal grandparents? How often were they allowed with the child? Could it have been intentional?

And yes, it seems there is more forgetting these days. I blame that on all the devices we have.

I do not understand forgetting children. It was, and is, the first thought I have about everything I do.


 What difference does it make what side of the family the grandparents are on, or even how often they watch the kid?



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I wonder if it could be intentional.

If dad is not in the picture. If dad is paying a lot of child support. If grandparents are "that type" of people.

My ex MIL would have done anything out of spite.

Yes. Up to and including something this bad.

That, I have no doubt.


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And if it were not accidental but vengeful, then it is murder.


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But what difference does side of the family make if it were to be intentional. You are assuming that paternal grandparents would be more likely to murder their own grandchild???? That is pure BS. You have NOTHING to back up that assertion.

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It would be equally as plausible that the maternal grandparents could be tired of baby-sitting all the time and this was their solution. Plus they got another daughter and grandchild involved? Absurd conjecture.

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I don't give a crap who left the baby in the car. If you're too stupid to care for a baby you should just tell the parent up front.

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People are "forgetting". Whether they SHOULD forget or not, what does that matter? No, you SHOULDN"T forget your kids. But, kids have been forgotten with tragic consequences. Some people aren't all that responsible. We know that, so do we need to let kids continue to die? I personally think rear facing seats are a big part of the problem.

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It doesn't matter Husker but it is information I would like to have.

And if it is intentional, no matter whose side of the family, it is not forgetting. It's murder.

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It doesn't matter Husker but it is information I would like to have.

And if it is intentional, no matter whose side of the family, it is not forgetting. It's murder.


Yes.  They should do a thorough investigation. 



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It doesn't matter Husker but it is information I would like to have.

And if it is intentional, no matter whose side of the family, it is not forgetting. It's murder.


 Sure,nbut you are insinuating that paternal grandparents would be more likely to murder their grandkids.  That is pure BS.



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It doesn't matter Husker but it is information I would like to have.

And if it is intentional, no matter whose side of the family, it is not forgetting. It's murder.


 Sure,nbut you are insinuating that paternal grandparents would be more likely to murder their grandkids.  That is pure BS.


Normal people like us would never even think of harming our children or grandchildren. Not all people are normal.  There are some crazy, evil people out there.



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It doesn't matter Husker but it is information I would like to have.

And if it is intentional, no matter whose side of the family, it is not forgetting. It's murder.


 Sure,nbut you are insinuating that paternal grandparents would be more likely to murder their grandkids.  That is pure BS.


Normal people like us would never even think of harming our children or grandchildren. Not all people are normal.  There are some crazy, evil people out there.


 That's true Lindley but to say that PATERNAL grandparents are more likely to do it than MATERNAL grandparents is just stupid. 



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lilyofcourse wrote:

I wonder if it could be intentional.

If dad is not in the picture. If dad is paying a lot of child support. If grandparents are "that type" of people.

My ex MIL would have done anything out of spite.

Yes. Up to and including something this bad.

That, I have no doubt.


 Just because you chose to have kids with a man whose family is as f'ed up in the head as he is does not mean everyone does, or that all paternal grandparents love their grandkids less.  Geesh, Lily - do you even pay attention to what you say?



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It doesn't matter Husker but it is information I would like to have.

And if it is intentional, no matter whose side of the family, it is not forgetting. It's murder.


 Sure,nbut you are insinuating that paternal grandparents would be more likely to murder their grandkids.  That is pure BS.


Normal people like us would never even think of harming our children or grandchildren. Not all people are normal.  There are some crazy, evil people out there.


 That's true Lindley but to say that PATERNAL grandparents are more likely to do it than MATERNAL grandparents is just stupid. 


I agree, I didn't read lily's post claiming paternal grandparent most likely to do this just her mil.  Just from what I've seen in national and local news concerning abused children was what I meant by my post. 



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

People are "forgetting". Whether they SHOULD forget or not, what does that matter? No, you SHOULDN"T forget your kids. But, kids have been forgotten with tragic consequences. Some people aren't all that responsible. We know that, so do we need to let kids continue to die? I personally think rear facing seats are a big part of the problem.


 Rear facing seats are huge. They take up more space than forward facing seats, i dont buy for a second that its easier to forget your kid because they are facing backwards. Plus there is a lot of research saying kids are much more safe rear facing for as long as possible. It is much more likely for a baby to be seriously injured or killed in a crash in a forward facing seat than a child to be forgotten in a rear facing seat.



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Goodness people. I swear. It's like some of you need road maps.

I didn't say either was more likely to do anything.

I said I wonder which set of grandparents it was.

I also said it doesn't matter and that either way, if it is intentional then it isn't forgetting, it's murder.

And LL, yes. I do read and understand what I post.

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People are "forgetting". Whether they SHOULD forget or not, what does that matter? No, you SHOULDN"T forget your kids. But, kids have been forgotten with tragic consequences. Some people aren't all that responsible. We know that, so do we need to let kids continue to die? I personally think rear facing seats are a big part of the problem.


 Rear facing seats are huge. They take up more space than forward facing seats, i dont buy for a second that its easier to forget your kid because they are facing backwards. Plus there is a lot of research saying kids are much more safe rear facing for as long as possible. It is much more likely for a baby to be seriously injured or killed in a crash in a forward facing seat than a child to be forgotten in a rear facing seat.


 Yes they are HUGE.  And most women install them on the back passenger side or in the back middle.  In either of those positions you can CLEARLY see the car seat.  Even if the baby doesn't make a peep.



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Goodness people. I swear. It's like some of you need road maps.

I didn't say either was more likely to do anything.

I said I wonder which set of grandparents it was.

I also said it doesn't matter and that either way, if it is intentional then it isn't forgetting, it's murder.

And LL, yes. I do read and understand what I post.

Do you?


 If it doesn't matter, why did you ask?

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Goodness people. I swear. It's like some of you need road maps.

I didn't say either was more likely to do anything.

I said I wonder which set of grandparents it was.

I also said it doesn't matter and that either way, if it is intentional then it isn't forgetting, it's murder.

And LL, yes. I do read and understand what I post.

Do you?


 If it doesn't matter, why did you ask?

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Probably because it was on her mind, and if it was on her mind, others are probably curious too. 

 

 

I think part of the nature of this message board is, we want people to post what's on their minds.

That usually gives us things to discuss.

 



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Never occurred to me, ed.

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Goodness people. I swear. It's like some of you need road maps.

I didn't say either was more likely to do anything.

I said I wonder which set of grandparents it was.

I also said it doesn't matter and that either way, if it is intentional then it isn't forgetting, it's murder.

And LL, yes. I do read and understand what I post.

Do you?


BS.  You were insinuating that paternal grandparents are more likely to kill their grandchildren.  If it doesn't matter--when why ask?  You related that DIRECTLY to your view that it could be intentional.  You were NOT just "wondering".   



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I wonder if it could be intentional.

If dad is not in the picture. If dad is paying a lot of child support. If grandparents are "that type" of people.

My ex MIL would have done anything out of spite.

Yes. Up to and including something this bad.

That, I have no doubt.


You even tried to justify your position with this piece of nonsense. 

 

LL was SPOT ON.   



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I wonder if it could be intentional.

If dad is not in the picture. If dad is paying a lot of child support. If grandparents are "that type" of people.

My ex MIL would have done anything out of spite.

Yes. Up to and including something this bad.

That, I have no doubt.


You even tried to justify your position with this piece of nonsense. 

 

LL was SPOT ON.   


 



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No. LL is not spot on. And neither are you.

I never said one was more likely. I said I wondered which set of grandparents it was.

You, LL and, well everyone, jumped to the conclusion I was insinuating paternal simply because I made the comment that my ex MIL could do something like that. It doesn't mean all paternal grandparents. It means psychopaths could do it.

If you want to assume my post means anything one way or another, well, that's on you.

I really could give two shakes.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

No. LL is not spot on. And neither are you.

I never said one was more likely. I said I wondered which set of grandparents it was.

You, LL and, well everyone, jumped to the conclusion I was insinuating paternal simply because I made the comment that my ex MIL could do something like that. It doesn't mean all paternal grandparents. It means psychopaths could do it.

If you want to assume my post means anything one way or another, well, that's on you.

I really could give two shakes.


 Bull frickin' crap.  You specifically said you wondered if it they were maternal or paternal grandparents and then went on to wonder if it could be intentional if dad is out of the picture or doesn't want to pay child support.  There is no assuming there whatsoever.  YOU wrote it pretty damn clear.



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And assuming the paternal grandparents will kill a baby intentionally so their son doesn't have to pay child support is just reaching.

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