TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Father 'shot dead his wife and three children in their bedrooms before turning the gun on himself

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Another family Annihilator. Awful.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

This is a local story for me. It's a nice area and very upscale. I wonder if he was having financial troubles?

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Mellow Momma wrote:
This is a local story for me. It's a nice area and very upscale. I wonder if he was having financial troubles?

Yep, I'm sure he was.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

He was being sued for defamation.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I saw Minneapolis & hoped it wasn't Jim.

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
He was being sued for defamation.

Did I miss that in the article? or do you inside info?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I will try to link it later. I am on my phone now.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

radaronline.com/celebrity-news/minnesota-murder-suicide-family-tragedy-dad-brian-short-defamation-lawsuit/

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
radaronline.com/celebrity-news/minnesota-murder-suicide-family-tragedy-dad-brian-short-defamation-lawsuit/

Geesh, and he kills his family over that? I don't get it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Me either. For what? Some stupid lawsuit? Yeah, you might look bad or maybe a bit of jail time or lose some money. Boo freaking hoo. But, to kill your wife and children? Why?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
I saw Minneapolis & hoped it wasn't Jim.

flan

I would never even think that. Why would you?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I saw Minneapolis & hoped it wasn't Jim.

flan
I would never even think that. Why would you?

Because:

1. He has effectively "disappeared."

2. He lives in Minneapolis.

3. He has 3 kids.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I would still never think that.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

He ran "Allnurses.com"?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Fair enough.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I saw Minneapolis & hoped it wasn't Jim.

flan
I would never even think that. Why would you?
Because:
1. He has effectively "disappeared."
2. He lives in Minneapolis.
3. He has 3 kids.
flan

There are lots of people in Minneapolis flan. Besides the guys name was Brian. I thought some of you knew him personally through facebook?

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Yep. And PBJ didn't have a wife and he has all girls.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I saw Minneapolis & hoped it wasn't Jim.

flan
I would never even think that. Why would you?
Because:
1. He has effectively "disappeared."
2. He lives in Minneapolis.
3. He has 3 kids.
flan
There are lots of people in Minneapolis flan. Besides the guys name was Brian. I thought some of you knew him personally through facebook?

The headline did not give the name; that was in the body of the story.

I met him for lunch once. We talked like old friends.

No, I didn't seriously think it WAS him, the thought just crossed my mind.

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I saw Minneapolis & hoped it wasn't Jim.

flan
I would never even think that. Why would you?
Because:
1. He has effectively "disappeared."
2. He lives in Minneapolis.
3. He has 3 kids.
flan
There are lots of people in Minneapolis flan. Besides the guys name was Brian. I thought some of you knew him personally through facebook?
The headline did not give the name; that was in the body of the story.
I met him for lunch once. We talked like old friends.
No, I didn't seriously think it WAS him, the thought just crossed my mind.
flan

I get it, Flan. Plus he had come into a lot on inheritance and is an IT type person. He certainly checks off many of the factors.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I saw Minneapolis & hoped it wasn't Jim.

flan
I would never even think that. Why would you?
Because:
1. He has effectively "disappeared."
2. He lives in Minneapolis.
3. He has 3 kids.
flan
There are lots of people in Minneapolis flan. Besides the guys name was Brian. I thought some of you knew him personally through facebook?
The headline did not give the name; that was in the body of the story.
I met him for lunch once. We talked like old friends.
No, I didn't seriously think it WAS him, the thought just crossed my mind.
flan
I get it, Flan. Plus he had come into a lot on inheritance and is an IT type person. He certainly checks off many of the factors.

Thank you. I didn't seriously think it WAS Jim, but the headline alone said "3 kids," without giving the gender. And "wife" could have been EX-wife.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I saw Minneapolis & hoped it wasn't Jim.

flan
I would never even think that. Why would you?
Because:
1. He has effectively "disappeared."
2. He lives in Minneapolis.
3. He has 3 kids.
flan
There are lots of people in Minneapolis flan. Besides the guys name was Brian. I thought some of you knew him personally through facebook?
The headline did not give the name; that was in the body of the story.
I met him for lunch once. We talked like old friends.
No, I didn't seriously think it WAS him, the thought just crossed my mind.
flan
I get it, Flan. Plus he had come into a lot on inheritance and is an IT type person. He certainly checks off many of the factors.
Thank you. I didn't seriously think it WAS Jim, but the headline alone said "3 kids," without giving the gender. And "wife" could have been EX-wife.
flan

Haha! Create drama where none exist. I have missed you flan!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Devouring and destroying.

huskerbb · Guru

Well, he was obviously mentally ill, so that excuses him from any and all bad actions he might have done.

If you are mentally ill, apparently, you get to do anything you want to up to and including killing others and you can't be held the least bit responsible.

ed11563 · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Well, he was obviously mentally ill, so that excuses him from any and all bad actions he might have done.

If you are mentally ill, apparently, you get to do anything you want to up to and including killing others and you can't be held the least bit responsible.

The courts could order him to be locked up until he was no longer a threat to himself or others.

Of course, NOW he is no longer a threat to himself or others.

huskerbb · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Well, he was obviously mentally ill, so that excuses him from any and all bad actions he might have done.

If you are mentally ill, apparently, you get to do anything you want to up to and including killing others and you can't be held the least bit responsible.
The courts could order him to be locked up until he was no longer a threat to himself or others.
Of course, NOW he is no longer a threat to himself or others.

And they likely would had they found him to be mentally ill had he lived.

Several on here would not advocate that course, however. Several on here would advocate that he is not responsible and shouldn't receive any punishment, at all.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

If you say so husker. We can all stop posting and u can post our opinions for us. K?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
If you say so husker. We can all stop posting and u can post our opinions for us. K?

confuse

Yes, He can!!!

flan

ed11563 · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Well, he was obviously mentally ill, so that excuses him from any and all bad actions he might have done.

If you are mentally ill, apparently, you get to do anything you want to up to and including killing others and you can't be held the least bit responsible.
The courts could order him to be locked up until he was no longer a threat to himself or others.
Of course, NOW he is no longer a threat to himself or others.
And they likely would had they found him to be mentally ill had he lived.
Several on here would not advocate that course, however. Several on here would advocate that he is not responsible and shouldn't receive any punishment, at all.

Court ordered commitment is not "punishment", it's "treatment".

I don't think anyone here has ever advocated for the release of the dangerously mentally ill.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
If you say so husker. We can all stop posting and u can post our opinions for us. K?

Well, they'd be better ones, for sure, if I did.

huskerbb · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Well, he was obviously mentally ill, so that excuses him from any and all bad actions he might have done.

If you are mentally ill, apparently, you get to do anything you want to up to and including killing others and you can't be held the least bit responsible.
The courts could order him to be locked up until he was no longer a threat to himself or others.
Of course, NOW he is no longer a threat to himself or others.
And they likely would had they found him to be mentally ill had he lived.
Several on here would not advocate that course, however. Several on here would advocate that he is not responsible and shouldn't receive any punishment, at all.
Court ordered commitment is not "punishment", it's "treatment".
I don't think anyone here has ever advocated for the release of the dangerously mentally ill.

Semantics. Locking someone away is punishment. You wouldn't like it.

ed11563 · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Well, he was obviously mentally ill, so that excuses him from any and all bad actions he might have done.

If you are mentally ill, apparently, you get to do anything you want to up to and including killing others and you can't be held the least bit responsible.
The courts could order him to be locked up until he was no longer a threat to himself or others.
Of course, NOW he is no longer a threat to himself or others.
And they likely would had they found him to be mentally ill had he lived.
Several on here would not advocate that course, however. Several on here would advocate that he is not responsible and shouldn't receive any punishment, at all.
Court ordered commitment is not "punishment", it's "treatment".
I don't think anyone here has ever advocated for the release of the dangerously mentally ill.

Semantics. Locking someone away is punishment. You wouldn't like it.
There are many things I don't do because I don't want to be locked up. (I don't do some of those things because I don't think it would be a good idea for other reasons.)

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Well, he was obviously mentally ill, so that excuses him from any and all bad actions he might have done.

If you are mentally ill, apparently, you get to do anything you want to up to and including killing others and you can't be held the least bit responsible.

How so? Some people are just overcome with evil.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

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Apparently Husker can't accept any difference of opinion without going into Huge Melodrama. I think you and I are both big proponents of Tough Love and have a lot of conservative views regarding personal responsibility.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Well, he was obviously mentally ill, so that excuses him from any and all bad actions he might have done.

If you are mentally ill, apparently, you get to do anything you want to up to and including killing others and you can't be held the least bit responsible.
How so? Some people are just overcome with evil.

I agree. There is a lot of EVIL in the world. And, I think we need to get back to calling Evil what it is instead of pretending it is mental illness when really it is simply just Evil.

karl271 · Guru

OK, this is going to sound pretty cold, but... At least he successfully killed himself, too. Over here, too many news stories of a guy who killed his wife and then decided not to kill himself; or killed his family and then decided not to kill himself....

When arrested, they invariably say: Well, I planned to kill my wife (family, etc.) and then myself...... Couldn't or wouldn't follow through....

-- Edited by karl271 on Monday 14th of September 2015 07:51:46 PM

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

karl271 wrote:
OK, this is going to sound pretty cold, but... At least he successfully killed himself, too. Over here, too many news stories of a guy who killed his wife and then decided not to kill himself; or killed his family and then decided not to kill himself....

When arrested, they invariably say: Well, I planned to kill my wife (family, etc.) and then myself...... Couldn't or wouldn't follow through....

-- Edited by karl271 on Monday 14th of September 2015 07:51:46 PM

I agree Karl.

Whenitrains · Member

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
karl271 wrote:
OK, this is going to sound pretty cold, but... At least he successfully killed himself, too. Over here, too many news stories of a guy who killed his wife and then decided not to kill himself; or killed his family and then decided not to kill himself....

When arrested, they invariably say: Well, I planned to kill my wife (family, etc.) and then myself...... Couldn't or wouldn't follow through....

-- Edited by karl271 on Monday 14th of September 2015 07:51:46 PM
I agree Karl.

I wish people like that killed themselves first and spared others.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Whenitrains wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
karl271 wrote:
OK, this is going to sound pretty cold, but... At least he successfully killed himself, too. Over here, too many news stories of a guy who killed his wife and then decided not to kill himself; or killed his family and then decided not to kill himself....

When arrested, they invariably say: Well, I planned to kill my wife (family, etc.) and then myself...... Couldn't or wouldn't follow through....

-- Edited by karl271 on Monday 14th of September 2015 07:51:46 PM
I agree Karl.
I wish people like that killed themselves first and spared others.

Well in a perfect world and all that.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Well, he was obviously mentally ill, so that excuses him from any and all bad actions he might have done.

If you are mentally ill, apparently, you get to do anything you want to up to and including killing others and you can't be held the least bit responsible.
How so? Some people are just overcome with evil.
I agree. There is a lot of EVIL in the world. And, I think we need to get back to calling Evil what it is instead of pretending it is mental illness when really it is simply just Evil.

I'm all for that. I think mental illness is pretty much BS, anyway.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Well, he was obviously mentally ill, so that excuses him from any and all bad actions he might have done.

If you are mentally ill, apparently, you get to do anything you want to up to and including killing others and you can't be held the least bit responsible.
How so? Some people are just overcome with evil.
I agree. There is a lot of EVIL in the world. And, I think we need to get back to calling Evil what it is instead of pretending it is mental illness when really it is simply just Evil.
I'm all for that. I think mental illness is pretty much BS, anyway.

You do realize, DOCTOR husker, that they have done CAT scans of the brains of people suffering from MI and those who don't.

Go ahead, GUESS what they showed??????????

flan

huskerbb · Guru

Evil, I suspect.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Evil, I suspect.

Oh, really...and what does that look like on a MEDICAL test?

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Evil, I suspect.
Oh, really...and what does that look like on a MEDICAL test?
flan

I just think it's BS that you look at one random article from the internet and decide that person must be mentally ill, and therefore, must be absolved of any bad acts they might commit.

Then you take another random article from the internet where it is JUST AS LIKELY that mental illness of some sort could be a factor--and decide that no, they are just evil and it's just as well they are dead.

RIDICULOUS.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I have NO idea what you're blathering about, but I DO KNOW that mental illness is 100% REAL.

GO FIND A REAL DOCTOR & ASK HIM OR HER.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
I have NO idea what you're blathering about, but I DO KNOW that mental illness is 100% REAL.

GO FIND A REAL DOCTOR & ASK HIM OR HER.

flan

Don't be dumb. You know damn well what I'm talking about. You were screaming "mental illness" to the top of your poster board lungs on the thread about the woman getting killed by the deputies, now, on this article, you dismiss it outright and call "evil".

I'm willing to go by the "evil" mantra--in BOTH instances.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I have NO idea what you're blathering about, but I DO KNOW that mental illness is 100% REAL.

GO FIND A REAL DOCTOR & ASK HIM OR HER.

flan
Don't be dumb. You know damn well what I'm talking about. You were screaming "mental illness" to the top of your poster board lungs on the thread about the woman getting killed by the deputies, now, on this article, you dismiss it outright and call "evil".

I'm willing to go by the "evil" mantra--in BOTH instances.

You are way off. The woman on the other thread was a diagnosed schizophrenic. This many was "normal" right up until the time he killed his family and himself.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I have NO idea what you're blathering about, but I DO KNOW that mental illness is 100% REAL.

GO FIND A REAL DOCTOR & ASK HIM OR HER.

flan
Don't be dumb. You know damn well what I'm talking about. You were screaming "mental illness" to the top of your poster board lungs on the thread about the woman getting killed by the deputies, now, on this article, you dismiss it outright and call "evil".

I'm willing to go by the "evil" mantra--in BOTH instances.

Actually, LL and LGS used the word "evil" in this thread, but I did not.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I have NO idea what you're blathering about, but I DO KNOW that mental illness is 100% REAL.

GO FIND A REAL DOCTOR & ASK HIM OR HER.

flan
Don't be dumb. You know damn well what I'm talking about. You were screaming "mental illness" to the top of your poster board lungs on the thread about the woman getting killed by the deputies, now, on this article, you dismiss it outright and call "evil".

I'm willing to go by the "evil" mantra--in BOTH instances.

Except she didn't kill anybody. THEY killed her. Hello.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I have NO idea what you're blathering about, but I DO KNOW that mental illness is 100% REAL.

GO FIND A REAL DOCTOR & ASK HIM OR HER.

flan
Don't be dumb. You know damn well what I'm talking about. You were screaming "mental illness" to the top of your poster board lungs on the thread about the woman getting killed by the deputies, now, on this article, you dismiss it outright and call "evil".

I'm willing to go by the "evil" mantra--in BOTH instances.
You are way off. The woman on the other thread was a diagnosed schizophrenic. This many was "normal" right up until the time he killed his family and himself.

If Husker can't understand the difference between a truly mental ill schizophrenic and an evil cold blooded killer, not sure there is much else we can say. confuse

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Father 'shot dead his wife and three children in their bedrooms before turning the gun on himself inside family's $2million Minnesota mansion in gruesome murder-suicide'

THURSDAY'S STATEMENT FROM BRIAN SHORT'S COMPANY ALLNURSES.COM

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Father 'shot dead his wife and three children in their bedrooms before turning the gun on himself inside family's $2million Minnesota mansion in gruesome murder-suicide'

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