TOTALLY GEEKED!

Oh no! My Vata is in conflict with my Pitta, and my Kapha is feeling sluggish. Whatever shall I do now?

Actually, I think Ayurvedic herbal supplements are supposed to contain heavy metals. You can reduce the toxicity through prayer. Yep, that should do it.

I'm detecting some sarcasm ...

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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I'm detecting someone trying to be witty but really just sounds like a douche bag.

 

It's a slam against Christians. 

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Monday 21st of September 2015 09:34:09 AM

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I see it as a slam against Magical Thinking. People (not just Christians) who think they will win a big Lottery through prayer, believe in Magic. 

And people who take "supplements" like this, believing the hype that they will help them be healthy, are also Magical Thinkers.

 

Well, my husband totally believe is supplements. He should have been dead a long time ago, the way he abused his body. He's 65 and has the body, mind, and energy of a 40 year old. He takes his supplements faithfully. People half his age are jealous of him...

Lawyerlady wrote:

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ed11563 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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I'm detecting someone trying to be witty but really just sounds like a douche bag.

 

It's a slam against Christians. 

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Monday 21st of September 2015 09:34:09 AM

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I see it as a slam against Magical Thinking. People (not just Christians) who think they will win a big Lottery through prayer, believe in Magic. 

And people who take "supplements" like this, believing the hype that they will help them be healthy, are also Magical Thinkers.

 

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 You just made it worse.

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 No kidding.

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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ed11563 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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I'm detecting someone trying to be witty but really just sounds like a douche bag.

 

It's a slam against Christians. 

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Monday 21st of September 2015 09:34:09 AM

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I see it as a slam against Magical Thinking. People (not just Christians) who think they will win a big Lottery through prayer, believe in Magic. 

And people who take "supplements" like this, believing the hype that they will help them be healthy, are also Magical Thinkers.

 

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 So prayer is "magical thinking"? 

Suppose I should turn the other cheek. 

Again.

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Depends (I think) on what you pray for, and what your expectations are. 

Pray to to win the Lottery? Fine.

Expect to win because you prayed for it? Magical thinking.

 

Pray for supplements to make you healthy? Fine.

Expect that consuming lead and mercury will heal you BECAUSE YOU PRAYED defies logic.

Am I making this worse?

 

Rasa shastra, the practice of adding metals, minerals or gems to herbal preparations, may include toxic heavy metals such as lead, mercury and arsenic. Adverse reactions to herbs are described in traditional Ayurvedic texts, but practitioners are reluctant to admit that herbs could be toxic and that reliable information on herbal toxicity is not readily available. There is a communication gap between practitioners of modern medicine and Ayurveda.
Ayurvedic proponents believe that the toxicity of these materials is reduced through purification processes such as samskaras or shodhanas (for metals). These are similar to the Chinese pao zhi, although the Ayurvedic techniques are more complex and may involve prayers as well as physical pharmacy techniques. However, these products have nonetheless caused severe lead poisoning and other toxic effects. Between 1978 and 2008, "more than 80 cases of lead poisoning associated with Ayurvedic medicine use [were] reported worldwide". In 2012, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) linked Ayurvedic drugs to lead poisoning, based on cases where toxic materials were found in the blood of pregnant women who had taken Ayurvedic drugs.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda

Hindu prayer is Christian-bashing? Alrighty, then!

Yes, heavy metals are used. Yes, prayer is one thing used to reduce the toxicity.
Do with that what you will.
If you want to call that making fun of something, knock yourself out. I'll give you a challenge, though. Would you ingest something loaded with lead and mercury, knowing it was prayed over, so it should be OK?
No? Why not?

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Making fun of anyone's religious beliefs is in bad form. Were you never taught basic manners?

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Is it bad form to criticize someone's stupid behavior? Like, thinking something that is going to cause brain damage is okay for ANY reason? 

 

I don't think it's bad form to criticize someone who still thinks that vaccinations cause Autism. Maybe that makes me a jerk.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Wow. Looks like it took at least 8 hours of googling to find that spin.

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What the hell? I have to sleep sometimes, you know. I'm quite familiar with alternative medicines, as it's in my purview as a health care practitioner. I'm also quite familiar with homeopathy, reiki, biodiscs, chakras, you name it. Anyone familiar with ayurvedic healing knows they use heavy metals. I have to know this stuff, in order to provide optimum care to my patients. Most are harmless, but some can be toxic and/or interfere with their current medical regimen. Maybe YOU would have to feverishly google for 8 hours, but I don't. Thanks for playing.

Most of it is bogus.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 21st of September 2015 03:14:45 PM

flan327 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Wow. Looks like it took at least 8 hours of googling to find that spin.

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 Oh, FFS.

Some people do actually have lives...

flan

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I know, eh? 

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Back to WTF?????


ed posts a thread about vitamins and you immediately throw in bashing against religion as if that makes any general sense at all. And then your anti-theist posse comes along to defend it.

That's why you can't be taken seriously.

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Ed posts a thread about heavy metals in ayurvedic supplements, which is quite common in that belief system. I posted FACTS. You want to address anti-theism? Write an angry letter to Ben Carson.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Wow. Looks like it took at least 8 hours of googling to find that spin.

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What the hell? I have to sleep sometimes, you know. I'm quite familiar with alternative medicines, as it's in my purview as a health care practitioner. I'm also quite familiar with homeopathy, reiki, biodiscs, chakras, you name it. Anyone familiar with ayurvedic healing knows they use heavy metals. I have to know this stuff, in order to provide optimum care to my patients. Most are harmless, but some can be toxic and/or interfere with their current medical regimen. Maybe YOU would have to feverishly google for 8 hours, but I don't. Thanks for playing.

Most of it is bogus.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 21st of September 2015 03:14:45 PM

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 I'd say everything you post is bogus. Except for the hate you have for anything Christian. 

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 Wow! Lily is omniscient now...

flan

weltschmerz wrote:

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Lol! Unbelievable. Get your knickers in a knot, much?

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 That tends to happen when dealing people like you.

Oh but calling you on your hate is so much fun.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Oh but calling you on your hate is so much fun.

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 I didn't see an ounce of hate.

flan

weltschmerz wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Oh but calling you on your hate is so much fun.

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 I didn't see an ounce of hate.

flan

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I suspect that people full of hate only see hate. It's called projection. There was no hate, implicit or implied, in what I posted.

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Yeah, cause LL and I are just SOOOO full of hate... 

This thread just keeps getting better and better!

Doesn't it, though?
My son and my BFF are Christian. I plan to smother them in their sleep, dontcha know? 

weltschmerz wrote:

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Doesn't it, though?
My son and my BFF are Christian. I plan to smother them in their sleep, dontcha know? 

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 I think you should poison them with dietary supplements...

flan