OK, the West point thing. He DID meet with General Westmoreland. He was in ROTC. He was 17 and may have not understood the application process. But, most people are lazy so they won't do any research when instead they can just believe sound bytes and go back to scratching their arses. But, lest you forget, the Queen of Liars, Hillary. Who supposedly endured Sniper Fire, uh huh which was found to be a lie among her many, many fabrications. And, Obama's book, also full of half truths as well. So, yeah.
And you know what else? The libtards keep hounding Trump on his wealth...they did the same to Romney. Said Romney was only rich because of his father (which is a stupid reason to be mad anyway), but they fawned ALL over John Kerry...who was at the time the wealthiest senator. And you know how HE got HIS money? From his wife. But that's ok...
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And you know what else? The libtards keep hounding Trump on his wealth...they did the same to Romney. Said Romney was only rich because of his father (which is a stupid reason to be mad anyway), but they fawned ALL over John Kerry...who was at the time the wealthiest senator. And you know how HE got HIS money? From his wife. But that's ok...
They hate and are frightened of conservative blacks. They will try to bring him down like they did Herman Cain.
This is exactly it.
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He said in his book he applied. That he was given a full scholarship. However, he DID meet with General Westmoreland. The General could have easily told him that he would receive a full scholarship if he applied. Who knows. They are not huge inconsistencies to me. I sure wish the left cared as much about all of Hillary's lies as they do about Carson's life story.
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He said in his book he applied. That he was given a full scholarship. However, he DID meet with General Westmoreland. The General could have easily told him that he would receive a full scholarship if he applied. Who knows. They are not huge inconsistencies to me. I sure wish the left cared as much about all of Hillary's lies as they do about Carson's life story.
Me too, They didn't push for Obama's birth certificate nor college records. When someone would ask for make a remark the "conservatives were out for a witch hunt" Kerry's military record was less then steller too and not a hero like he was making himself out to be. His so called band of brothers didn't back him up either.
You know, I think this is the first time in history we have a presidential candidate trying to ADMIT to doing illegal/bad things and the press not wanting him to.
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OK, the West point thing. He DID meet with General Westmoreland. He was in ROTC. He was 17 and may have not understood the application process. But, most people are lazy so they won't do any research when instead they can just believe sound bytes and go back to scratching their arses. But, lest you forget, the Queen of Liars, Hillary. Who supposedly endured Sniper Fire, uh huh which was found to be a lie among her many, many fabrications. And, Obama's book, also full of half truths as well. So, yeah.
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But Hillary did endure sniper fire. Brian Williams reported on it because he was there too!
Wake up. The people that Dems attack are the people they are most afraid of. Did they even whimper over Big spendr Paul Ryan as speaker? No. What does that tell you? If you cant recognize attack and smear then u deserve more of the same. This is a non issue ramped up into a feeding frenzy.
They always attack the ones they are afraid of. He is not only a black conservative but a brilliant brain surgeon who grew up in Detroit and never let racism stop him.
I am amazed how many people want to jump on the dog pile before they even know the facts
Right? Like the fact that West Point doesn't give scholarships. And that he lied about applying there. And he lied about a knife fight he was supposedly in that never happened.
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I am amazed how many people want to jump on the dog pile before they even know the facts
Right? Like the fact that West Point doesn't give scholarships. And that he lied about applying there. And he lied about a knife fight he was supposedly in that never happened.
Never underestimate the capacity of the media to propagandize against Republicans.
That’s the theme of this morning’s overwrought news coverage on Dr. Ben Carson’s supposed “lie” regarding a “scholarship” to West Point. The story began with Politico, which ran with the audacious headline, “Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship.” Even I was taken in by the headline – after all, that’s a pretty bold claim!
Politico began thusly:
Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.
The key word here is “fabricated.” Did the Carson campaign admit any such thing? Absolutely not. The facts reported by Politico don’t even support this interpretation of the Carson campaign’s response. According to Politico, Carson said in his 1992 memoir Gifted Hands that he was offered a “full scholarship” to West Point after dining with General William Westmoreland in 1969. Here’s the relevant passage from Carson’s autobiography:
At the end of my twelfth grade I marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade. I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, We had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present. More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn’t where I saw myself going.
That’s the entire relevant portion of Carson’s account. He reiterated that account last month in an interview with Charlie Rose, when he said, “I was offered a full scholarship at West Point, got to meet General Westmoreland and go to Congressional Medal of Honor dinners. But decided really my pathway would be medicine.”
Politico followed up on this story. They reported one additional piece of information that seems to conflict with Carson’s story: Carson never applied to West Point, and was never extended admission.
But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied.
In fact, that’s exactly what Carson’s campaign manager said to Politico in an email:
Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit. In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer. He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors. They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission.
But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”
That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange.
Now, some on the right are saying that Carson should be held to a higher standard here than other candidates because he’s running as an “outsider.” But this is a basic case of misinterpreting facts, not an outright lie. Carson served in ROTC. Prominent people wanted him to go to West Point. He wouldn’t have had to pay. He didn’t apply because he didn’t want to go. Those facts are not in dispute. It’s the specific wording over which media have decided to crucify him.
This is a textbook example of a left-wing media hit. Politico would never editorialize about any Democrat who issued such a response to a factual inquiry in this manner. Politico won’t even conclude that Hillary Clinton lied about her attribution of the Benghazi attacks to a YouTube video despite email evidence that she knew Benghazi was a terrorist attack entirely unrelated to a YouTube video.
But for Ben Carson, they’ll make an exception.
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I am amazed how many people want to jump on the dog pile before they even know the facts
Right? Like the fact that West Point doesn't give scholarships. And that he lied about applying there. And he lied about a knife fight he was supposedly in that never happened.
There is no way to prove he lied about the knife fight. I think it's sad that so many people will let Hillary get away with real crimes and they look at Ben Carson telling a story about his childhood and say he is a terrible liar. I have no reason not to doubt him on it. Also, the Westpoint thing could be a misunderstanding. But let's nail him to the wall. I mean it's not like we have politicians out there who are actually breaking the law or anything.
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I am amazed how many people want to jump on the dog pile before they even know the facts
Right? Like the fact that West Point doesn't give scholarships. And that he lied about applying there. And he lied about a knife fight he was supposedly in that never happened.
Why would he lie about a knife fight? And to a 17yr old kid , telling them they could go to West Point for free means "scholarship". But yeah the lying sacks of Dems your party ignores.
There are TWO instances where he claims he was violent. One was with his mom and one with another boy whom he now says was a person in his family. I'm trying to figure out how just two instances of angry outbursts as a kid disqualifies him from life. It's actually quite shocking to think about those two things and the Westpoint thing and then compare them to what Hillary has done wrong in her lifetime. I mean if we treat Hillary the same way she should be sitting on death row using the same judgments as people are using for Carson.
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Its just a smear job of turning nonsense into histrionics.
Exactly.
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Bernie Sanders would rather talk about Ben Carson's "absurd" views on the issues than whether he exaggerated parts of his life story.
"Ben Carson, as I understand it, wants to abolish Medicare. How's that?...So you've got millions of old people whose entire health-care existence rests on Medicare. He wants to get rid of it. That's of some significance to me."
Sanders added that he is more concerned with Carson's views on climate change and his tax proposal, which he said would give huge tax breaks to wealthy Americans.
What I see in the two parties is the dems want to talk social issues, the Republican want to talk issues about running the country.
The government has its dirty fingers in so many pies.
I'd say at least 90% of the things dems want to sqwak about are things that should be given back to the states to deal with.
Here, we have a man who admits to making mistakes. He accepts his part in them and doesn't try to lie to make himself look better.
I don't know when being aware of your mistakes and owning up to them became a bad thing.
I like Carson more and more.
He has accomplished a lot in his life. He has a strong moral compass. He doesn't seem to back down from adversity.
The complete opposite of what we have as a president now.
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You are gonna quote Bernie Sanders and then be scared of "ignorance'? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow. Yes. Bernie Sanders is an idiot. He wants true socialism in every form. And yes, Carson wants to do away with Medicare but he also has programs he wants to replace it with. People pick and choose what parts of his plan they want to believe in or regurgitate.
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You are gonna quote Bernie Sanders and then be scared of "ignorance'? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow. Yes. Bernie Sanders is an idiot. He wants true socialism in every form. And yes, Carson wants to do away with Medicare but he also has programs he wants to replace it with. People pick and choose what parts of his plan they want to believe in or regurgitate.
True, but DH and I both like Sanders.
He's an idiot solely because of his socialist ideas? What do those crazy residents of Vermont know?!
Well, I would prefer not to have rampant socialism in my country. Vermont's government healthcare system has gone bankrupt. But it doesn't really matter. Sanders isn't going to get the Dem backing anyway. They're going to take Hillary.
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Here's another quote from him (regarding Hillary):
"Yes, we do agree on a number of issues, and by the way, on her worst day, Hillary Clinton will be an infinitely better candidate and president than the Republican candidate on his best day," Sanders said.
“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
You are gonna quote Bernie Sanders and then be scared of "ignorance'? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow. Yes. Bernie Sanders is an idiot. He wants true socialism in every form. And yes, Carson wants to do away with Medicare but he also has programs he wants to replace it with. People pick and choose what parts of his plan they want to believe in or regurgitate.
He wants to abolish private property and capitalism?
“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Are people finally waking up to Media Bias and the liberal agenda of the traditional media? Did they EVER even bother to try to find any information about Obama when he was running? Hell, we never even saw a college transcript. But, they can go to Cuba trying to dig up dirt on Cruz or will look back into what Romney did in grade school but they NEVER give Dems the same treatment. Hopefully, people are waking up to this and the fact that there is news everywhere now makes there phony smear campaigns all that much harder now. Thank goodness for freedom and the internet, which of course Obama wants to take over under the guise of "net neutrality", etc.
There are TWO instances where he claims he was violent. One was with his mom and one with another boy whom he now says was a person in his family. I'm trying to figure out how just two instances of angry outbursts as a kid disqualifies him from life. It's actually quite shocking to think about those two things and the Westpoint thing and then compare them to what Hillary has done wrong in her lifetime. I mean if we treat Hillary the same way she should be sitting on death row using the same judgments as people are using for Carson.
He said in his book he applied. That he was given a full scholarship. However, he DID meet with General Westmoreland. The General could have easily told him that he would receive a full scholarship if he applied. Who knows. They are not huge inconsistencies to me. I sure wish the left cared as much about all of Hillary's lies as they do about Carson's life story.
Me too, They didn't push for Obama's birth certificate nor college records. When someone would ask for make a remark the "conservatives were out for a witch hunt" Kerry's military record was less then steller too and not a hero like he was making himself out to be. His so called band of brothers didn't back him up either.
Wait...WHAT? They didn't push for Obama's birth certificate?