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Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

War On Christmas: Starbucks Red Cups Are Emblematic Of The Christian Culture Cleansing Of The West

Lindley · Guru

My big problem with Starbucks is that they donate to planned parenthood .

WYSIWYG · Guru

My big problem with Starbucks is their coffee tastes severely burnt.

I don't know why they think a plain red cup is "[a] more open way to usher in the holiday". I think it looks plain, boring, and decidedly un-holidayish. Put some snowflakes on that thing. How about a Menorah, a Cross, a Crescent and Star, and a Christmas tree (that covers pretty much everyone that celebrates a religious holiday in December, doesn't it)?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I never knew snowflakes were offensive. But apparently they are.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

LOL, a guy game into work today with one of the cups and said "this is my red solo cup!"

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I hate Starbucks. The CEO does everything for fame and advertising. Which is great for him. He's always got his name in the news for some new stupid thing like this. And it works. And then mid season you'll see the old cups back out. He has no spine. He's just a publicity ho. But he's a good publicity ho. It's hard for me to boycott Starbucks when I know next week he'll do a 180 on it. I just don't take him seriously at all anymore.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
LOL, a guy game into work today with one of the cups and said "this is my red solo cup!"

That is funny though.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Whenever I go in there and they ask my name it's a five minute ordeal getting them to say it much less spell it. Most of the time I make up a name. I'll be like Oh, I'm Amy. Or Rachel.

Lindley · Guru

I love their pumpkin spice latte and peppermint mocha and collect their city mugs but now I no longer will buy from them.

karl271 · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I never knew snowflakes were offensive. But apparently they are.

Only some of the human ones.....

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Whenever I go in there and they ask my name it's a five minute ordeal getting them to say it much less spell it. Most of the time I make up a name. I'll be like Oh, I'm Amy. Or Rachel.

I use a fake name like Ruby, lol.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Nobody has to celebrate Christmas if they don't want to, but don't be a damn hypocrite about it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

That seems to ascribing a lot of Deep Meaning to a cup. I mean, yeah, a festive cup is simply more Fun. Which anyone with a marketing brain would probably realize is a good thing for customers. But, if they want to keep it clean and simple, like Whole Foods or whatever as part of their branding, that is up to them. But, yes, I do believe that this country has shifted in a way to try to minimize Christmas as much as possible.

FNW · Guru

Lindley wrote:
My big problem with Starbucks is that they donate to planned parenthood .

Another thing to add to my list as to why I don't like Starbucks. And because their coffee is too strong, too expensive, highly over rated, and just not very good. It's all gimmick. Give me Dunkin' Donuts any time.

But I never understood the need to go anywhere to get non-alcoholic beverages. I remember in high school my friends "needed" to go to the drive-thru for a soda. Just a soda. And DH sometimes feels the need to stop for a soda during road trips. Really? We have like 4 bottles of water in the car. Coffee? We brew a pot every morning and have travel mugs. Make your own.

burns07 · Guru

considering the ceo himself and some of the ridiculous actions he's taken over the last few years am wondering why should give the remotest damn what starbucks thinks / does about anything

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Or it could just be a cup.

Maybe the company just actually liked the simplicity of the cup. Ombré is in - it's a HUGE trend in design. It could just be that Starbucks captured this trend and wanted a simple design this year and it has nothing to do with a "war on Christmas".

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

They would have been better to just not use a different cup.

Had Starbucks once. It was bad. Tasted burnt like wysiwyg said.

But really it's a coffee milkshake.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Or it could just be a cup.

Maybe the company just actually liked the simplicity of the cup. Ombré is in - it's a HUGE trend in design. It could just be that Starbucks captured this trend and wanted a simple design this year and it has nothing to do with a "war on Christmas".

I agree with this. Design trends change, and the plain fact is that prior designs were more wintery than Christmas.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Or it could just be a cup.

Maybe the company just actually liked the simplicity of the cup. Ombré is in - it's a HUGE trend in design. It could just be that Starbucks captured this trend and wanted a simple design this year and it has nothing to do with a "war on Christmas".
I agree with this. Design trends change, and the plain fact is that prior designs were more wintery than Christmas.

Can you say it again? It doesn't happen often but when it does I like to savor the moment! Lol

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Or it could just be a cup.

Maybe the company just actually liked the simplicity of the cup. Ombré is in - it's a HUGE trend in design. It could just be that Starbucks captured this trend and wanted a simple design this year and it has nothing to do with a "war on Christmas".
I agree with this. Design trends change, and the plain fact is that prior designs were more wintery than Christmas.
Can you say it again? It doesn't happen often but when it does I like to savor the moment! Lol

LOL! I'll go even further - people who want to embrace what Christmas is really about need to stop looking for ways to get all offended about it.

Lindley · Guru

I have no problem with the color at all just who they give donations to.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Or it could just be a cup.

Maybe the company just actually liked the simplicity of the cup. Ombré is in - it's a HUGE trend in design. It could just be that Starbucks captured this trend and wanted a simple design this year and it has nothing to do with a "war on Christmas".
I agree with this. Design trends change, and the plain fact is that prior designs were more wintery than Christmas.
Can you say it again? It doesn't happen often but when it does I like to savor the moment! Lol

LOL! I'll go even further - people who want to embrace what Christmas is really about need to stop looking for ways to get all offended about it.

I respect their right to get offended about it. I am sure there are things I don't like that most people think is ridiculous. I won't say I am offended by because I don't think "offended" is the right word. I actually think we overuse that word. If you wear an confederate flag shirt, I might not like it, but it doesn't offend me. KWIM?

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Offended is defined as "resentful as the result of a perceived insult". I don't think people do most things with the intent to insult, so I don't see a reaction as being offended. It's more of just me thinking you have poor judgement or that your values are WAY different than mine. But offense comes into play more when you intend to hurt me.

At least that's how I feel about it.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lindley wrote:
I have no problem with the color at all just who they give donations to.

Well, that's a whole different reason. And everyone should take stuff like that into consideration b/c who you give YOUR money to, for them to turn around and donate it to, is your business.

Lindley · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lindley wrote:
I have no problem with the color at all just who they give donations to.
Well, that's a whole different reason. And everyone should take stuff like that into consideration b/c who you give YOUR money to, for them to turn around and donate it to, is your business.

I have a big issue with them donating to planned parenthood and I don't want my money going to that organization. It bothers me more that Christians are more upset by the color of the cup then giving donations to pp.

Divine Geek · Guru

karl271 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I never knew snowflakes were offensive. But apparently they are.
Only some of the human ones.....

And Karl wins the day

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lindley wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lindley wrote:
I have no problem with the color at all just who they give donations to.
Well, that's a whole different reason. And everyone should take stuff like that into consideration b/c who you give YOUR money to, for them to turn around and donate it to, is your business.
I have a big issue with them donating to planned parenthood and I don't want my money going to that organization. It bothers me more that Christians are more upset by the color of the cup then giving donations to pp.

Excellent point.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lindley wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lindley wrote:
I have no problem with the color at all just who they give donations to.
Well, that's a whole different reason. And everyone should take stuff like that into consideration b/c who you give YOUR money to, for them to turn around and donate it to, is your business.
I have a big issue with them donating to planned parenthood and I don't want my money going to that organization. It bothers me more that Christians are more upset by the color of the cup then giving donations to pp.
Excellent point.

Starbucks price matches what their employees give. They do not give a certain amount on their own. Employees are encouraged to donate a part of their check to a "charity" of their choosing. Anyone they donate to Starbucks matches dollar for dollar. Does this make it better? No. Just wanted to clear up that they donate to PP directly.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lindley wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lindley wrote:
I have no problem with the color at all just who they give donations to.
Well, that's a whole different reason. And everyone should take stuff like that into consideration b/c who you give YOUR money to, for them to turn around and donate it to, is your business.
I have a big issue with them donating to planned parenthood and I don't want my money going to that organization. It bothers me more that Christians are more upset by the color of the cup then giving donations to pp.
Excellent point.
Starbucks price matches what their employees give. They do not give a certain amount on their own. Employees are encouraged to donate a part of their check to a "charity" of their choosing. Anyone they donate to Starbucks matches dollar for dollar. Does this make it better? No. Just wanted to clear up that they donate to PP directly.

This is how it works in most corporations. I think it is great that a corporation helps their employees in what ever endeavor they choose.

Ohfour · Hooker

I love Starbucks. I don't give a crap about their red cups....I lurve me some iced coffee...

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

LOL What did I tell ya'll? What did I say? I said as soon as the press notices he will walk this back. Sure enough, today he came out with an announcement saying that in trying to make everyone feel all inclusive he inadvertently insulted some. They are going to rethink the cup situation and reissue the original ones. Can we say publicity ho?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lindley wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lindley wrote:
I have no problem with the color at all just who they give donations to.
Well, that's a whole different reason. And everyone should take stuff like that into consideration b/c who you give YOUR money to, for them to turn around and donate it to, is your business.
I have a big issue with them donating to planned parenthood and I don't want my money going to that organization. It bothers me more that Christians are more upset by the color of the cup then giving donations to pp.
Excellent point.
Starbucks price matches what their employees give. They do not give a certain amount on their own. Employees are encouraged to donate a part of their check to a "charity" of their choosing. Anyone they donate to Starbucks matches dollar for dollar. Does this make it better? No. Just wanted to clear up that they donate to PP directly.
This is how it works in most corporations. I think it is great that a corporation helps their employees in what ever endeavor they choose.

But there's a catch - they don't match them all.

Grants can be made only to 501(c)(3) public charities in the United States and Registered Charities in Canada. If you have questions about whether an organization qualifies, contact CyberGrants at starbucks@cybergrants.com or (866) 763-1815.

Organizations not eligible to receive grants include:

Political organizations
Religious organizations benefiting only those with like beliefs
Private foundations
Professional organizations

I would say that Planned Parenthood, with the amount of money they give to lobbying and politicians, is a political organization.

WYSIWYG · Guru

I support Starbucks donating money to Planned Parenthood.

It scares me when I realize how many unwanted pregnancies would happen without Planned Parenthood. And I'm not talking about ones that end up aborted. No, I mean how many that are prevented in the first place that wouldn't have been prevented if Planned Parenthood never existed.

Want to watch the abortion rates go up? Get rid of places like Planned Parenthood.

Want to see the abortion rates go down? Keep funding places like Planned Parenthood, stop advocating for "Abstinence Only" sex ed in schools, stop shaming people for using birth control, support provisions that pay for birth control in insurance mandates (as long as we have to have insurance mandates).

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

That's completely bass ackwards.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

WYSIWYG wrote:
I support Starbucks donating money to Planned Parenthood.

It scares me when I realize how many unwanted pregnancies would happen without Planned Parenthood. And I'm not talking about ones that end up aborted. No, I mean how many that are prevented in the first place that wouldn't have been prevented if Planned Parenthood never existed.

Want to watch the abortion rates go up? Get rid of places like Planned Parenthood.

Want to see the abortion rates go down? Keep funding places like Planned Parenthood, stop advocating for "Abstinence Only" sex ed in schools, stop shaming people for using birth control, support provisions that pay for birth control in insurance mandates (as long as we have to have insurance mandates).

I have a better idea.

Want to see ump landed pregnancies, abortions and kids in the system go down?

Stop making excuses for bad behavior!

Start holding people accountable for their actions.

It isn't an accident or mistake when you choose to have unprotected sex.

ed11563 · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
I support Starbucks donating money to Planned Parenthood.

It scares me when I realize how many unwanted pregnancies would happen without Planned Parenthood. And I'm not talking about ones that end up aborted. No, I mean how many that are prevented in the first place that wouldn't have been prevented if Planned Parenthood never existed.

Want to watch the abortion rates go up? Get rid of places like Planned Parenthood.

Want to see the abortion rates go down? Keep funding places like Planned Parenthood, stop advocating for "Abstinence Only" sex ed in schools, stop shaming people for using birth control, support provisions that pay for birth control in insurance mandates (as long as we have to have insurance mandates).
I have a better idea.
Want to see ump landed pregnancies, abortions and kids in the system go down?
Stop making excuses for bad behavior!
Start holding people accountable for their actions.
It isn't an accident or mistake when you choose to have unprotected sex.

Maybe, but it can be the direct result of being taught "abstinence" without teaching the facts of human reproduction, and also teaching birth control methods.

Teenage girls who have never been taught about birth control are not less likely to have intercourse, but they are more likely to NOT USE birth control.

Teach "abstinence only" if you want more unplanned pregnancies.

And anyone who really expects teenagers to behave responsibly is ignoring reality.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Give me a break - there are no "abstinence only" programs in this day and age except at maybe religious schools. People just don't even want to teach abstinence at all because they don't think it works. But, believe it or not, the majority of teens are NOT having sex, and even less of them are getting pregnant.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
I support Starbucks donating money to Planned Parenthood.

It scares me when I realize how many unwanted pregnancies would happen without Planned Parenthood. And I'm not talking about ones that end up aborted. No, I mean how many that are prevented in the first place that wouldn't have been prevented if Planned Parenthood never existed.

Want to watch the abortion rates go up? Get rid of places like Planned Parenthood.

Want to see the abortion rates go down? Keep funding places like Planned Parenthood, stop advocating for "Abstinence Only" sex ed in schools, stop shaming people for using birth control, support provisions that pay for birth control in insurance mandates (as long as we have to have insurance mandates).
I have a better idea.
Want to see ump landed pregnancies, abortions and kids in the system go down?
Stop making excuses for bad behavior!
Start holding people accountable for their actions.
It isn't an accident or mistake when you choose to have unprotected sex.

Maybe, but it can be the direct result of being taught "abstinence" without teaching the facts of human reproduction, and also teaching birth control methods.
Teenage girls who have never been taught about birth control are not less likely to have intercourse, but they are more likely to NOT USE birth control.

Teach "abstinence only" if you want more unplanned pregnancies.

And anyone who really expects teenagers to behave responsibly is ignoring reality.

And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is the exact attitude that has raised a generation of entitled idiots.

TrudyML · Guru

I hate that coffee. Burnt & bitter.

ed11563 · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
I support Starbucks donating money to Planned Parenthood.

It scares me when I realize how many unwanted pregnancies would happen without Planned Parenthood. And I'm not talking about ones that end up aborted. No, I mean how many that are prevented in the first place that wouldn't have been prevented if Planned Parenthood never existed.

Want to watch the abortion rates go up? Get rid of places like Planned Parenthood.

Want to see the abortion rates go down? Keep funding places like Planned Parenthood, stop advocating for "Abstinence Only" sex ed in schools, stop shaming people for using birth control, support provisions that pay for birth control in insurance mandates (as long as we have to have insurance mandates).
I have a better idea.
Want to see ump landed pregnancies, abortions and kids in the system go down?
Stop making excuses for bad behavior!
Start holding people accountable for their actions.
It isn't an accident or mistake when you choose to have unprotected sex.

Maybe, but it can be the direct result of being taught "abstinence" without teaching the facts of human reproduction, and also teaching birth control methods.
Teenage girls who have never been taught about birth control are not less likely to have intercourse, but they are more likely to NOT USE birth control.

Teach "abstinence only" if you want more unplanned pregnancies.

And anyone who really expects teenagers to behave responsibly is ignoring reality.

And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is the exact attitude that has raised a generation of entitled idiots.

and yet, the ones I raised are not, and never were, entitled idiots.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

ed11563 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
I support Starbucks donating money to Planned Parenthood.

It scares me when I realize how many unwanted pregnancies would happen without Planned Parenthood. And I'm not talking about ones that end up aborted. No, I mean how many that are prevented in the first place that wouldn't have been prevented if Planned Parenthood never existed.

Want to watch the abortion rates go up? Get rid of places like Planned Parenthood.

Want to see the abortion rates go down? Keep funding places like Planned Parenthood, stop advocating for "Abstinence Only" sex ed in schools, stop shaming people for using birth control, support provisions that pay for birth control in insurance mandates (as long as we have to have insurance mandates).
I have a better idea.
Want to see ump landed pregnancies, abortions and kids in the system go down?
Stop making excuses for bad behavior!
Start holding people accountable for their actions.
It isn't an accident or mistake when you choose to have unprotected sex.

Maybe, but it can be the direct result of being taught "abstinence" without teaching the facts of human reproduction, and also teaching birth control methods.
Teenage girls who have never been taught about birth control are not less likely to have intercourse, but they are more likely to NOT USE birth control.

Teach "abstinence only" if you want more unplanned pregnancies.

And anyone who really expects teenagers to behave responsibly is ignoring reality.

And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is the exact attitude that has raised a generation of entitled idiots.
and yet, the ones I raised are not, and never were, entitled idiots.

Well, I don't know them, so I don't exactly know that to be true, now do I?

Ohfour · Hooker

Seriously?????

There is not one Planned Parenthood anywhere near where my kids were raised. My daughters class of 200 had one, ONE, girl get pregnant. Planned Parenthood does nothing, besides abortions, that any local health department doesn't do. They ONLY reason for them to stay open is for abortions.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

ed11563 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
I support Starbucks donating money to Planned Parenthood.

It scares me when I realize how many unwanted pregnancies would happen without Planned Parenthood. And I'm not talking about ones that end up aborted. No, I mean how many that are prevented in the first place that wouldn't have been prevented if Planned Parenthood never existed.

Want to watch the abortion rates go up? Get rid of places like Planned Parenthood.

Want to see the abortion rates go down? Keep funding places like Planned Parenthood, stop advocating for "Abstinence Only" sex ed in schools, stop shaming people for using birth control, support provisions that pay for birth control in insurance mandates (as long as we have to have insurance mandates).
I have a better idea.
Want to see ump landed pregnancies, abortions and kids in the system go down?
Stop making excuses for bad behavior!
Start holding people accountable for their actions.
It isn't an accident or mistake when you choose to have unprotected sex.

Maybe, but it can be the direct result of being taught "abstinence" without teaching the facts of human reproduction, and also teaching birth control methods.
Teenage girls who have never been taught about birth control are not less likely to have intercourse, but they are more likely to NOT USE birth control.

Teach "abstinence only" if you want more unplanned pregnancies.

And anyone who really expects teenagers to behave responsibly is ignoring reality.

And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is the exact attitude that has raised a generation of entitled idiots.
and yet, the ones I raised are not, and never were, entitled idiots.

Neither are mine.

They both worked hard for what they have.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

You may have a different definition of that than I do. Kids that have to be bailed out financially by their parents without paying it back are not responsible adults in my book.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

It is a red cup not a war on Christmas. That is ridiculous. I personally love Starbucks vanilla frappe with an espresso shot & caramel swirl. It is like an adult milkshake & super delicious. It is also loaded with calories so I limit my intake to special treats.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
You may have a different definition of that than I do. Kids that have to be bailed out financially by their parents without paying it back are not responsible adults in my book.

Feel better now?

flan

FNW · Guru

I prefer Red Solo Cups filled with beer.

TrudyML · Guru

FNW wrote:
I prefer Red Solo Cups filled with beer.

Oooh, yeah.

Ohfour · Hooker

Well, if y'all wanna be REAL fancy and all, you can drink out of this...

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lexxy wrote:

It is a red cup not a war on Christmas. That is ridiculous. I personally love Starbucks vanilla frappe with an espresso shot & caramel swirl. It is like an adult milkshake & super delicious. It is also loaded with calories so I limit my intake to special treats.

Yeah, I don't think a red coffee cup is a "War on Christmas". It's kind of like seeing racism everywhere. It's a cup. Who cares?