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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Dear Abby: Grandma Teaching My Kids Christian Songs.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Oh geeze. I sing country songs. Doesn't make me a cowboy.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Southern_Belle wrote:
Oh geeze. I sing country songs. Doesn't make me a cowboy.

LOL I belt out the occassional Janis Joplin, doesn't make me a rock star or drug addict!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

It doesn't?!! Well, if you just declare yourself a Cowboy and get some chaps and spurs, then that actually does make you one now you know. And, you can require the entire USA to call you a Cowboy or girl, depending on your preference.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Getting into battles with grandparents is stupid. Just let the grandparents be the grandparents. I didn't always like what my mom was feeding my kids or all the excessive indulgence of toys or whatever but so what? Just let them do things their way. So what? They are only exposed to them for a limited time. Now, our parents are deceased and they have wonderful memories of their grandparents. You can't control the world. These parents who expect everyone to comply about their "rules" for little Suzie will have tough time functioning.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

If she intends to teach the child about various religions, anyway, as she says, then why would this be an issue?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

That poor baby. In the middle of a religious battle.

Mary Zombie · Guru

Yeah.....I mean geez....you can't control the world. They aren't feeding the kid martinis.
Oy

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I can see both sides. I would never go against DS2's wishes in this specific instance. I may not always like his decisions, but I do acknowledge that he is the parent.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I have to wonder how much time the grandparents are with the child.

I wouldn't want my kid around someone teaching them Muslim songs. (Do Muslims have songs)

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Well, my radio is usually set to The Fish - so kids around me are going to hear it. If Christian music is a big part of their life, LW has no right to tell them to stop.

FNW · Guru

I taught my boys, "Dreidel, dreidel, dreidel," but we are not Jewish. And I "chant" with the boys sometimes. They think it's hilarious. But I agree with Lily, I would not want the grands teaching my boys Muslim songs...the grandparents should be respecting the parents' wishes.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Trust me - if the grandparents were Muslim and the parents weren't - they would have a lot bigger problems, or none at all b/c they would never see them.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FNW wrote:
I taught my boys, "Dreidel, dreidel, dreidel," but we are not Jewish. And I "chant" with the boys sometimes. They think it's hilarious. But I agree with Lily, I would not want the grands teaching my boys Muslim songs...the grandparents should be respecting the parents' wishes.

They really should.

And I wonder if the grandparents resent the fact that their child is now a Buddhist?

flan

FNW · Guru

My thoughts as well, flan. I'm not sure my parents would be okay with their grandchildren being raised Buddhist. They had a difficult time with my niece being raised in the Church of What's Happening (not really the name, but it's some fly by night Christian church) instead of Catholic. So to appease them and not trample on my brother & SIL's parenting, I baptized her while my mom was giving her a bath one night.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I just used Muslims as an example.

I wouldn't want anyone teaching my child anything about false religions.

That being said, if I am sending my kids into the home of someone of another religion, I have to understand they will more than likely be exposed to it.

So.

Do I send my child into the home of someone of another religion and demand they not sing songs, or pray prayers or anything else of their Faith?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

The world of the rapidly declining tolerance.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And for the record, I don't care if my kids learn about other religions, but I want them to learn because of their own curiosity.

They hear about different religions every where.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
The world of the rapidly declining tolerance.

And if the parents chose a special diet, not because of medical reasons, and the grandparents do not respect their choice, what then?

There are PLENTY of good songs for children that aren't Christian.

flan

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
The world of the rapidly declining tolerance.
And if the parents chose a special diet, not because of medical reasons, and the grandparents do not respect their choice, what then?
There are PLENTY of good songs for children that aren't Christian.
flan

Eh, I don't have to worry about crap like that. My kids won't be weird like that. I don't see the harm in a grandma giving a kid a hot dog occasionally or singing a song with them. Like LGS said. It may be a bonding thing.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
FNW wrote:
I taught my boys, "Dreidel, dreidel, dreidel," but we are not Jewish. And I "chant" with the boys sometimes. They think it's hilarious. But I agree with Lily, I would not want the grands teaching my boys Muslim songs...the grandparents should be respecting the parents' wishes.

They really should.
And I wonder if the grandparents resent the fact that their child is now a Buddhist?
flan

I would.

It would be a sign of disrespect not only to me, but to my father, my mother, my grandparents, my great-grandparents--and so on down the line for many generations.

They would yammer about "respect"--while refusing to do so, themselves.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
The world of the rapidly declining tolerance.
And if the parents chose a special diet, not because of medical reasons, and the grandparents do not respect their choice, what then?
There are PLENTY of good songs for children that aren't Christian.
flan

This isn't a medical reason. They won't break out in hives or need an epi-pen for singing a few songs.

If, however, they refused to let the kid eat meat because they are hippie vegan dweebs--I'd feed the kid bacon every chance I got.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Monday 9th of November 2015 02:55:09 PM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
The world of the rapidly declining tolerance.
And if the parents chose a special diet, not because of medical reasons, and the grandparents do not respect their choice, what then?
There are PLENTY of good songs for children that aren't Christian.
flan
This isn't a medical reason. They won't break out in hives or need an epi-pen for singing a few songs.

If, however, they refused to let the kid eat meat because they are hippie vegan dweebs--I'd feed the kid bacon every chance I got.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Monday 9th of November 2015 02:55:09 PM

Thanks for proving how close-minded you are.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
The world of the rapidly declining tolerance.
And if the parents chose a special diet, not because of medical reasons, and the grandparents do not respect their choice, what then?
There are PLENTY of good songs for children that aren't Christian.
flan
This isn't a medical reason. They won't break out in hives or need an epi-pen for singing a few songs.

If, however, they refused to let the kid eat meat because they are hippie vegan dweebs--I'd feed the kid bacon every chance I got.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Monday 9th of November 2015 02:55:09 PM
Thanks for proving how close-minded you are.
flan

LOL!!! Yet the original poster doesn't want her kid singing Christian songs--and she's so "open-minded"????

BS. Your only definition of "closed" or "open" minded is whether or not they agree with you 100%.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
The world of the rapidly declining tolerance.
And if the parents chose a special diet, not because of medical reasons, and the grandparents do not respect their choice, what then?
There are PLENTY of good songs for children that aren't Christian.
flan
This isn't a medical reason. They won't break out in hives or need an epi-pen for singing a few songs.

If, however, they refused to let the kid eat meat because they are hippie vegan dweebs--I'd feed the kid bacon every chance I got.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Monday 9th of November 2015 02:55:09 PM

You just can't post without insulting someone, can you?

The OP called them "Christians", not "delusional bible-bangers."

And feeding bacon to the children of vegetarians is childish and reprehensible.

Ohfour · Hooker

Funny, how we are supposed to be open minded and learn about all different religions, but the libs go nuts when anything Christian hits their feeble little minds...

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Parents have the right to parent how they choose, within reason. They don't want grands pushing their religion, they, as the parents, want to teach her in due time. That is perfectly reasonable.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Parents have the right to parent how they choose, within reason. They don't want grands pushing their religion, they, as the parents, want to teach her in due time. That is perfectly reasonable.

Children are also supposed to respect and honor their parents, and they doesn't change just because they grow up. This letter writer is not respecting her parents' beliefs.

Ohfour · Hooker

I wonder if they also want the grandparents to not pray before meals, at bedtime, etc. It's the same things to me...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
I wonder if they also want the grandparents to not pray before meals, at bedtime, etc. It's the same things to me...

Have another drink, dearie.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
I wonder if they also want the grandparents to not pray before meals, at bedtime, etc. It's the same things to me...
Have another drink, dearie.
flan

Wow. I'd say you were unbelievable, but I've come to expect absolutely nothing good out of you.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
I wonder if they also want the grandparents to not pray before meals, at bedtime, etc. It's the same things to me...
Have another drink, dearie.
flan

You really think that if they are that upset about a silly song then they would be OK with holding hands and saying a prayer at dinnertime? If they aren't then they are complete morons. But since they are so upset about the songs anyway, they have already shown that they are complete morons...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

She boasts about how much she drinks...

flan

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Parents have the right to parent how they choose, within reason. They don't want grands pushing their religion, they, as the parents, want to teach her in due time. That is perfectly reasonable.
Children are also supposed to respect and honor their parents, and they doesn't change just because they grow up. This letter writer is not respecting her parents' beliefs.

If your parents spank, and you don't, are you going to respect their belief? If your parents think it is okay for little kids to take a sip of their drink, and you don't, are you going to respect and honor that? If your parents were okay with your daughter having sex with her bf of three years in their house, are you going to just shrug and be a good daughter about it?

They are the parents. They get to choose how to raise their daughter, not grandma and grandpa.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
The world of the rapidly declining tolerance.
And if the parents chose a special diet, not because of medical reasons, and the grandparents do not respect their choice, what then?
There are PLENTY of good songs for children that aren't Christian.
flan
This isn't a medical reason. They won't break out in hives or need an epi-pen for singing a few songs.

If, however, they refused to let the kid eat meat because they are hippie vegan dweebs--I'd feed the kid bacon every chance I got.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Monday 9th of November 2015 02:55:09 PM
You just can't post without insulting someone, can you?
The OP called them "Christians", not "delusional bible-bangers."
And feeding bacon to the children of vegetarians is childish and reprehensible.

ok, hamburgers, then.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Parents have the right to parent how they choose, within reason. They don't want grands pushing their religion, they, as the parents, want to teach her in due time. That is perfectly reasonable.
Children are also supposed to respect and honor their parents, and they doesn't change just because they grow up. This letter writer is not respecting her parents' beliefs.
If your parents spank, and you don't, are you going to respect their belief? If your parents think it is okay for little kids to take a sip of their drink, and you don't, are you going to respect and honor that? If your parents were okay with your daughter having sex with her bf of three years in their house, are you going to just shrug and be a good daughter about it?

They are the parents. They get to choose how to raise their daughter, not grandma and grandpa.

Grandma and Grandpa have the right to continue practicing their faith as they have always done. This is not about what they are doing to the children - this is about how they are living their lives. They don't have to stop praying, or listening to and singing songs because their children don't like it. They don't have to change their religious behavior because their child changed hers. And quite frankly, this woman was raised Christian, and yet is Buddhist, so what is she so afraid of?

huskerbb · Guru

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Parents have the right to parent how they choose, within reason. They don't want grands pushing their religion, they, as the parents, want to teach her in due time. That is perfectly reasonable.
Children are also supposed to respect and honor their parents, and they doesn't change just because they grow up. This letter writer is not respecting her parents' beliefs.
If your parents spank, and you don't, are you going to respect their belief? If your parents think it is okay for little kids to take a sip of their drink, and you don't, are you going to respect and honor that? If your parents were okay with your daughter having sex with her bf of three years in their house, are you going to just shrug and be a good daughter about it?

They are the parents. They get to choose how to raise their daughter, not grandma and grandpa.

We both spank. They don't let the kids take a sip of a drink--I did. They would NEVER be ok with having sex before marriage. My mom isn't happy about my adult son doin that, now--and she lets him know it.

huskerbb · Guru

Quite frankly, if my kid was stupid enough to change religions, I'd do everything I could to get their kids to switch back.

Why would I not want to save them from what I know is coming?

Mary Zombie · Guru

Yeah....seriously. they can't stop their parents from Being who they've always been.

Liberal bossiness.

WYSIWYG · Guru

If she intends to teach the child about various religions, anyway, as she says, then why would this be an issue?
- Lawyerlady

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That was my first question when reading the OP.

WYSIWYG · Guru

The world of the rapidly declining tolerance.
- Nobody Just Nobody

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Exactly. And it makes me sad.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

WYSIWYG wrote:
If she intends to teach the child about various religions, anyway, as she says, then why would this be an issue?
- Lawyerlady

__________________________

That was my first question when reading the OP.

Because THEY as the PARENTS want to teach her.

There are some people on this board that have said that, despite being Christian, they would not WANT the bus driver praying with their kids or the gym teacher teaching them songs. This is no different.

Mom and dad need to respect the way their daughter wants to parent.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
If she intends to teach the child about various religions, anyway, as she says, then why would this be an issue?
- Lawyerlady

__________________________

That was my first question when reading the OP.
Because THEY as the PARENTS want to teach her.
There are some people on this board that have said that, despite being Christian, they would not WANT the bus driver praying with their kids or the gym teacher teaching them songs. This is no different.
Mom and dad need to respect the way their daughter wants to parent.

You have that respect thing backwards, Dona. It's supposed to go the other way. She is supposed to respect THEM.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Respect is a 2 way street. The grandparents do need to respect them as parents. And, if you child had a peanut allergy that could cause anaphylaxis, then no you would not be OK with grandma trying to give the kid a peanut butter sandwich. But, this is a different thing. Singing a few songs isn't going to hurt them. Yeah, you might not like it but do you have to LIKE everything grandma does? I didn't always like the fact that my parents were so indulgent of my kids at Christmas. They would get a ton of stuff. But, so what? Now my parents are gone and they have those memories and now they don't get a ton of stuff.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Asking them not to teach Christian songs to their child is not being disrespectful. You lot have lost your mind if that is all it takes to disrespect you.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, it could be disrespectful. If you are a Christian and grandma became an atheist and was teaching them "God sucks" type songs, you would probably not be happy about that, lol.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Asking them not to teach Christian songs to their child is not being disrespectful. You lot have lost your mind if that is all it takes to disrespect you.

Telling them to stop practicing their religion around their grandchild is.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Respect is a 2 way street. The grandparents do need to respect them as parents. And, if you child had a peanut allergy that could cause anaphylaxis, then no you would not be OK with grandma trying to give the kid a peanut butter sandwich. But, this is a different thing. Singing a few songs isn't going to hurt them. Yeah, you might not like it but do you have to LIKE everything grandma does? I didn't always like the fact that my parents were so indulgent of my kids at Christmas. They would get a ton of stuff. But, so what? Now my parents are gone and they have those memories and now they don't get a ton of stuff.

Thank you.

The grandparents do not get to decide how their grandchild is raised.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Asking them not to teach Christian songs to their child is not being disrespectful. You lot have lost your mind if that is all it takes to disrespect you.
Telling them to stop practicing their religion around their grandchild is.

They didn't say that.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Asking them not to teach Christian songs to their child is not being disrespectful. You lot have lost your mind if that is all it takes to disrespect you.
Telling them to stop practicing their religion around their grandchild is.
They didn't say that.
flan

Yes, she pretty much did.