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So that's not a big shocker.



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I would have been more shocked if he was negative.

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Duh!

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Everyone in entertainment is freaking out about it. I can't believe anyone would go near him with a 10 foot pole.

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He has been having emotional issues for a long time. I'm not surprised it was him. He was the first person I thought of when I heard the rumor about a celebrity with hiv. I feel real bad for those he affected. He has been a train wreck for a long time.

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I heard the rumor but didn't have a clue.

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Well it isn't like he is the first celebrity to have HIV.

He has a great opportunity to bring some real awareness to a whole generation.

I hope he doesn't squander his chance to make a difference.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Well it isn't like he is the first celebrity to have HIV.

He has a great opportunity to bring some real awareness to a whole generation.

I hope he doesn't squander his chance to make a difference.


But he most likely infected NUMEROUS women.   He should be jailed.  He knew he was HIV positive and didn't tell or use protection.  That's criminal.



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I don't know.

Those same women were not forced to sleep with him.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

I don't know.

Those same women were not forced to sleep with him.


Precedent.  There have been many people that have been prosecuted and convicted for reckless endangerment, serving many years... 



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True, but in California, it's a felony if a knowingly HIV positive person has unprotected sex with someone without first disclosing their condition.

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Yeah. I know all of that.

But wouldn't theyneed to prove he knowingly deceived them?

And that is where it gets tricky.

Still. No matter what has already transpired, he has the position in which he can affect change.


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lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah. I know all of that.

But wouldn't theyneed to prove he knowingly deceived them?

And that is where it gets tricky.

Still. No matter what has already transpired, he has the position in which he can affect change.


If she slept with them after his diagnosis, then he would be guilty. 



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Okay, but isn't this story still just a rumor, at this stage of the game?

I read that he is going to be on the Today Show, tomorrow.

And that he has some big, personal news that he's going to share.confuse



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Is he really a woman?????



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Ohfour wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah. I know all of that.

But wouldn't theyneed to prove he knowingly deceived them?

And that is where it gets tricky.

Still. No matter what has already transpired, he has the position in which he can affect change.


If she slept with them after his diagnosis, then he would be guilty. 


 If he didn't tell her. 

Even if she doesn't ask? 

 

I'm not trying to be difficult. It just seems like a lot of "ifs" could make all the difference. 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah. I know all of that.

But wouldn't theyneed to prove he knowingly deceived them?

And that is where it gets tricky.

Still. No matter what has already transpired, he has the position in which he can affect change.


If she slept with them after his diagnosis, then he would be guilty. 


 If he didn't tell her. 

Even if she doesn't ask? 

 

I'm not trying to be difficult. It just seems like a lot of "ifs" could make all the difference. 


If you KNOWINGLY have unprotected sex with another and do not reveal that you are HIV positive, you could get life in prison. She does not have to ask. 



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So once again, the woman has no responsibility what so ever.

I'm sorry.

I don't buy that.

I'm not excusing him.

But if we are going to scream "her body, her rights", then she better get real serious about everything that she does with her body.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

So once again, the woman has no responsibility what so ever.

I'm sorry.

I don't buy that.

I'm not excusing him.

But if we are going to scream "her body, her rights", then she better get real serious about everything that she does with her body.


 It goes both ways though. If an HIV positive woman has unprotected sex with a man without disclosing it is also a criminal act. 



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lilyofcourse wrote:

So once again, the woman has no responsibility what so ever.

I'm sorry.

I don't buy that.

I'm not excusing him.

But if we are going to scream "her body, her rights", then she better get real serious about everything that she does with her body.


 The point is that if he knowingly  has sex with a woman  with a life threatening  disease  without  telling  her he is putting  her life at risk. 



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Okay, but isn't this story still just a rumor, at this stage of the game?

I read that he is going to be on the Today Show, tomorrow.

And that he has some big, personal news that he's going to share.confuse


 It's in the tabloids.  10 years ago I would not give it a second thought, but today the tabloids seem to report the straight poop, whereas the regular media doesn't



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lilyofcourse wrote:

I don't know.

Those same women were not forced to sleep with him.


 Are you KIDDING me?  It's a CRIME.  And they would likely have chosen NOT to have sex with him had they known.  Yes, they are stupid for not using protection, but that doesn't make what he did less wrong.



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Drugs and lots of illicit sex. Who would have thunk it? You can live that kind of lifestyle for awhile, but it always catches up to you.

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Fort Worth Mom wrote:

Okay, but isn't this story still just a rumor, at this stage of the game?

I read that he is going to be on the Today Show, tomorrow.

And that he has some big, personal news that he's going to share.confuse


 It's in the tabloids.  10 years ago I would not give it a second thought, but today the tabloids seem to report the straight poop, whereas the regular media doesn't



I get much more and complete accurate info from the Daily Mail than I ever do out of any of the traditional journalist Bigs.

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Charlie Sheen confirms HIV positive status in 'Today' interview

November 17, 2015 By VERNE GAY   verne.gay@newsday.com

Charlie Sheen on the set of the Charlie Sheen on the set of the "Today" show in Manhattan on Tuesday, Nov. 17, 2015, before announcing that he is HIV positive in an interview with host Matt Lauer. Sheen says he learned of his diagnosis four years ago and was announcing it publicly to put an end to rumors and extortion. (Credit: Getty Images / Andrew Burton)

In the heavily promoted Charlie Sheen interview with host Matt Lauer that "Today" promised would be "highly revealing," the former star of "Two and a Half Men" Tuesday morning officially confirmed what various websites have already reported -- that he is HIV positive.

He also said in the interview, conducted live just before 8 a.m., that he has been the victim of blackmail -- or shakedowns, to use Lauer's term -- by several people who knew of his condition, and that he had paid out "millions" to silence them, later confirming to Lauer that he had paid out $10 million. By admitting in such a public forum to his condition -- Tuesday's "Today" interview -- he said his "goal" was to escape further payouts. "I think I release myself from this prison today," he said.

After telling Lauer that he'd had unprotected sex since learning of his condition, Sheen, 50, was asked whether he expected to face lawsuits. He replied: "I would be predicting the future and assuming the worst. I can only imagine, based on what I've experienced, I'm sure that's what's next."

 

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Lauer further noted that Sheen, by not revealing his illness to partners, could be criminally liable in dozens of states. "Having divulged it is the reason I'm in the mess I am with all the shakedowns. Again, I can't sit here and protect against all of that, and [can] only sit here and tell my truth."

At the outset of the interview, Sheen said, "I am in fact HIV positive. I have to put an end to this barrage of attacks, of subtruths, and very harmful and mercurial stories that are threatening the health of so many others, of [stories] that couldn't be further from the truth."

He said he first learned of his condition four years ago, after suffering headaches and night sweats. Tests later confirmed that he was HIV positive. Sheen added that it was "impossible" that others with whom he had sexual relations had also been infected.

Sheen was fired off "Men" four years ago in the middle of a public breakdown -- fueled, he said at the time, by drugs and alcohol. It's unclear from the interview whether Sheen knew of his illness at the time of his firing. Sheen said that "roid rage" was the cause of his behavior.

Sheen said in the interview that up until now, he had told only a few people of his illness, telling Lauer that those included former wives, Brooke Mueller and Denise Richards. Sheen and adult film star Brett Rossi recently broke off their engagement, and various websites -- notably the National Enquirer -- said that she had learned of his illness after they had become engaged. Sheen said of the people he had told, "for some reason I trusted them. They were deep in my inner circle, and I thought they could be helpful. Instead my trust turned to their treason."

Also appearing with Sheen during the interview was his doctor -- Dr. Robert Huizuenga, well-known to viewers of "The Biggest Loser" as "Dr. H," where he  frequently appears -- who said the actor had responded well to his drug regimen and that there was no "detectable" virus in his blood.

The "Today" interview -- appearing in the middle of November sweeps, while "Today" is in a furious scramble with "Good Morning America" to regain its ratings leadership -- is of course just the latest twist in a long and often troubled career.

At the time Sheen was fired off "Men," he was TV's highest paid actor, later launching "My Violent Torpedo of Truth/Defeat Is Not an Option" -- a bizarre, formless, onstage ramble about drugs, booze and those who he claimed had betrayed him. He later said the tour wasn't about revenge, but about money -- he earned a reported $7 million -- because he said he was "broke" after CBS fired him.

FX later signed him to a long-term contract to star in a sitcom, "Anger Management." It was canceled last year.

Meanwhile, here's the "Today" link with the full interview.

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From The Associated Press:

Charlie Sheen issued the following statement Tuesday. What follows is the complete, unedited letter:

Roughly four years ago, I suddenly found myself in the throws of a seismic and debilitating three-day cluster-migraine like headache. I was emergently hospitalized with what I believed to be a brain tumor or perhaps some unknown pathology. I was partially correct. Following a battery of endless tests, that included a hideous spinal tap, it was sadly and shockingly revealed to me that I was, in fact, positive for HIV.

The news was a 'mule kick' to my soul. Those impossible words I absorbed and then tried to convince myself, that I was stuck, suspended, or even stranded inside some kind of alternate reality or nightmare, were to the absolute contrary. I was awake. It was true. reality.

Under the brilliant and perfect care of Dr. Robert Huizenga as well as "the" leading infectious disease expert in the known universe, I began a rigorous and intensive treatment program. Not missing a beat, a med dose, or one shred of guidance, quickly my viral loads became undetectable. Like every other challenge in my life, again, I was victorious and kicking this disease's ass. I wish my story had ended there. Unfortunately, for my family and myself, it had only just begun.

The personal disbelief, karmic confusion, shame and anger lead to a temporary yet abysmal decent into profound substance abuse and fathomless drinking. It was a suicide run. Problem was, I'd forgotten that I'm too tough for such a cowardly departure. Yet, despite this loathsome and horrific odyssey, I was vigilant with my anti-viral program.

My medical team could only shake their heads as each and every blood test returned levels revealing a state of remission. Even though I might have been trying to kill myself, one thing was radically evident; the disease was not.

In and around this perplexing and difficult time, I dazedly chose (or hired) the companionship of unsavory and insipid types. Regardless of their salt-less reputations, I always lead with condoms and honesty when it came to my condition. Sadly, my truth soon became their treason, as a deluge of blackmail and extortion took center stage in this circus of deceit.

To date, I have paid out countless millions to these desperate charlatans.

Locked in a vacuum of fear, I chose to allow their threats and skullduggery to vastly deplete future assets from my children, while my "secret" sat entombed in their hives of folly. (or so I thought)

News Flash: This ends today. I'm claiming back my freedom. The scales of justice will swiftly and righteously rebalance themselves.

In conclusion, I accept this condition not as a curse or scourge, but rather as an opportunity and a challenge. An opportunity to help others. A challenge to better myself.

Every day, of every month, of every year, countless individuals go to work, man their stations, fulfill their professional obligations with a host of disabilities. Diseases, imperfections, hurdles, detours. These maladies range from Lupus to Cancer, from paralysis to blindness, from Diabetes to Obesity. "Treated," HIV is no different.

My partying days are behind me. My philanthropic days are ahead of me.

Earnest Hemingway once wrote:

"Courage is grace under pressure."

I've served my time under pressure; I now embrace the courage, and the grace.

Love and Peace,

Charlie Sheen

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He says here he always disclosed it, but there is already a girl claiming he promised her he was clean when he wasn't.

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He says here he always disclosed it, but there is already a girl claiming he promised her he was clean when he wasn't.

Etc nevermind I thought this was the same article I read earlier.

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Drugs and lots of illicit sex. Who would have thunk it? You can live that kind of lifestyle for awhile, but it always catches up to you.


 Unlawful sex? Was it minors or by force?



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weltschmerz wrote:
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Drugs and lots of illicit sex. Who would have thunk it? You can live that kind of lifestyle for awhile, but it always catches up to you.


 Unlawful sex? Was it minors or by force?


He hired prostitutes.  That's illegal in 99.9% of America.,.. 



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I wonder why a star would need to hire them. Many women will do it for free.

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I wonder why a star would need to hire them. Many women will do it for free.


I remember another actor who was caught with a woman for hire.  I can't remember his name. He was british and had a beautiful girlfriend who was a actress. I'm getting old I can't remember her name either.  You would think they wouldn't need to hire someone.  I think it must be a fetish or some kind of thrill seeking.    I think maybe the actress was Elizabeth Hurley but not sure. 



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Well. He said in the interview that he had hired girls to come to his house for drugs and sex parties. I guess he lied, huh?

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I wonder why a star would need to hire them. Many women will do it for free.


I remember another actor who was caught with a woman for hire.  I can't remember his name. He was british and had a beautiful girlfriend who was a actress. I'm getting old I can't remember her name either.  You would think they wouldn't need to hire someone.  I think it must be a fetish or some kind of thrill seeking.    I think maybe the actress was Elizabeth Hurley but not sure. 


 Hugh Grant.

And Eddie Murphy got caught with a prostitute too. Happens all the time..



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Prostitutes don't try to get knocked up and sue them or their estates for millions in baby daddy support.

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