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Aaron wants a cat. But he is allergic to cats.

I have been looking at hypoallergenic cats. 

I looked at the Sphinx cat. But they need weekly grooming because of the oils and such and honestly I don't want a high maintenance cat.

And while the kittens are cute, they can be some seriously ugly adults.

So. I was looking at shorthand cats. 

Can they be trained to stay off cabinets? Cause I can't stand that at all.

And what advice can you cat people give about selecting a cat? 

The ones I always had just showed up at the door and stayed cause I fed them.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

Aaron wants a cat. But he is allergic to cats.

I have been looking at hypoallergenic cats. 

I looked at the Sphinx cat. But they need weekly grooming because of the oils and such and honestly I don't want a high maintenance cat.

And while the kittens are cute, they can be some seriously ugly adults.

So. I was looking at shorthand cats. 

Can they be trained to stay off cabinets? Cause I can't stand that at all.

And what advice can you cat people give about selecting a cat? 

The ones I always had just showed up at the door and stayed cause I fed them.


 Did you mean short haired cats, Lily?

I've never heard of shorthand cats.

And, we have a bunch of cats.wink



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No. I want one to take notes for me.

Might come in handy later on.
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Yes. Short hair. Autocorrect got me again.

 



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There doesn't seem to be a perfect cat, for someone with a cat allergy.

But, this article gives some ideas, Lily.

The Top Cats for People with Allergies

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Low allergen or “hypoallergenic” cats are known to produce fewer allergens than “regular” cats. Note that the operative word here is “fewer.” Hypoallergenic is not synonymous with non-allergenic, and no breed is completely non-allergenic.

The Top Cats for People with Allergies

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The protein Fel D1 is the allergen in cat saliva that causes problems for allergy sufferers. Once a cat licks her coat, the allergen-laden spit dries and becomes airborne, seeking a warm home in your sinuses. Some cat breeds produce less of this protein than others, making them hypoallergenic.

Factors That Affect Allergen Production:

  • Males produce more allergenic secretions than females
  • Intact males produce more than neutered males
  • Dark cats tend to produce more than light-colored ones (no one knows why)
  • Kittens produce fewer allergens than adults

 

Cats Good For Allergy Sufferers
Although no cat breed is truly hypoallergenic, there are seven breeds that produce fewer allergens. This “hypoallergenic” list should not be the only thing you consider when researching which breed of cat to adopt, however. Be sure to consider all of each breed’s characteristics to determine the best fit for your household.

Three of the seven hypoallergenic breeds are Oriental lines: the Balinese, Oriental Shorthair and Javanese. This provides several options for cat lovers who’d like a low allergen cat with the characteristics of the popular Siamese.

Balinese: Often referred to as the “longhaired Siamese,” the Balinese looks like an unlikely candidate for a hypoallergenic cat. But it is one of the few breeds that produces less of the Fel D1 protein than other cats, thus causing fewer allergic reactions in allergy sufferers.

Oriental Shorthair: They’re hypoallergenic, but it’s still a good practice to groom your Oriental frequently to keep dander to a minimum.

Javanese: Like the Balinese, the Javanese sports a medium-long single coat that doesn’t mat. Because of the lack of undercoat, they have less fur, which translates into fewer allergens.

Two “Rex” cats are on the list: the Devon and Cornish Rex.

Devon Rex: Of the two, the Devon has both shorter fur and less fur. Your Devon Rex will need to have her paw pads and ears cleaned of oil build-up frequently, but doesn’t need frequent full baths like the Sphynx or Cornish Rex.

Cornish Rex: The Cornish Rex requires more upkeep than the Devon because they require frequent baths to mitigate the oil buildup on their skin.

The last two cats on the list offer you a choice of hairless or hairy:

Sphynx: The hairless Sphynx is the cat most often associated with being hypoallergenic. Being hairless does not mean they’re maintenance-free, however. Your Sphynx will need frequent baths to remove the gummy buildup of oils on her skin, and her large ears will also require frequent cleanings.

Siberian: Like the Balinese, the Siberian sports a moderately long coat, but still is hypoallergenic due to the lower-than-average enzyme levels in their saliva. Some claim that 75 percent of cat allergy sufferers have no reaction to the Siberian.

After You’ve Brought Your Cat Home
It’s important to understand that adopting a “hypoallergenic” cat may not be the panacea you’re expecting. Before you adopt a cat, spend some time with her or a cat of the same breed to see if your allergies remain in check.

Once you have a cat, there are steps you can take to minimize allergens whether she’s a hypoallergenic breed or not:

  • Frequent Baths and Brushing: If you’re allergic, the process is best left to a groomer or family member. Research has proven that washing your cat 2 -3 times a week can remove up to 84 percent of existing allergens and reduce the future production of allergens. Some claim that using cool, distilled water in the bath may also reduce allergen levels.
  • Wash Toys and Cat Bedding: Washing toys and bedding also reduces the number of allergens floating around your home. Do this at least once a week.

 



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Yeah I saw that when trying to learn the difference.

I think it would do him a world of good to have a cat. I think he needs that something that is his. You know?

I may take him to the pet store. See what happens.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah I saw that when trying to learn the difference.

I think it would do him a world of good to have a cat. I think he needs that something that is his. You know?

I may take him to the pet store. See what happens.


Okay, you mentioned the :

 Sphynx: The hairless Sphynx is the cat most often associated with being hypoallergenic. Being hairless does not mean they’re maintenance-free, however. Your Sphynx will need frequent baths to remove the gummy buildup of oils on her skin, and her large ears will also require frequent cleanings.

I wouldn't even try to find one, Lily. They sound hard to take care of. They don't handle changes in temperature very well. They need a bath every week.

I think finding one of the other cats on the list, might work for Aaron.



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Yeah I don't want a sphinx now. At first I thought it would be the way to go.

But after looking through the pictures. No way.

All of them are cute as kittens.

But the adults can be hedious.

I think the colorpoint or balinese would work.

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Sorry, but it's DUMB to get a cat for someone who is allergic. What they "want" is irrelevant.

If I'm allergic to peanuts, I don't eat a peanut butter sandwich every day.

Just say no.

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Thank you for your input husker.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah I don't want a sphinx now. At first I thought it would be the way to go.

But after looking through the pictures. No way.

All of them are cute as kittens.

But the adults can be hedious.

I think the colorpoint or balinese would work.


Okay, now you really need to think of Monster.

He's been "King of the House" for as long as I've been posting with you.

Do you think, he would be accepting of a cat/kitten? 



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Can he take an allergy pill to help? I know a few people whose allergies got better after having the cat for a while.

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Can he take an allergy pill to help? I know a few people whose allergies got better after having the cat for a while.


Why?  It's pointless.  There's an obvious solution--don't get a fvcking cat.   



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Can he take an allergy pill to help? I know a few people whose allergies got better after having the cat for a while.


Why?  It's pointless.  There's an obvious solution--don't get a fvcking cat.   


 One of my friends had her cats for over ten years before she got married, her husband got used to them and now they don't bother him.



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Can he take an allergy pill to help? I know a few people whose allergies got better after having the cat for a while.


Why?  It's pointless.  There's an obvious solution--don't get a fvcking cat.   


Jeez husker. Your sensitivity, knows no bounds.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Aaron wants a cat. But he is allergic to cats.

I have been looking at hypoallergenic cats. 

I looked at the Sphinx cat. But they need weekly grooming because of the oils and such and honestly I don't want a high maintenance cat.

And while the kittens are cute, they can be some seriously ugly adults.

So. I was looking at shorthand cats. 

Can they be trained to stay off cabinets? Cause I can't stand that at all.

And what advice can you cat people give about selecting a cat? 

The ones I always had just showed up at the door and stayed cause I fed them.


 Oh, absolutely! They can be trained to stay off cabinets, countertops and tables.

Once trained, they will never, ever do that...

 

 

.....when there are witnesses.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

Aaron wants a cat. But he is allergic to cats.

I have been looking at hypoallergenic cats. 

I looked at the Sphinx cat. But they need weekly grooming because of the oils and such and honestly I don't want a high maintenance cat.

And while the kittens are cute, they can be some seriously ugly adults.

So. I was looking at shorthand cats. 

Can they be trained to stay off cabinets? Cause I can't stand that at all.

And what advice can you cat people give about selecting a cat? 

The ones I always had just showed up at the door and stayed cause I fed them.


 Oh, absolutely! They can be trained to stay off cabinets, countertops and tables.

Once trained, they will never, ever do that...

 

 

.....when there are witnesses.


 LOL! You have it right, Welts!

And the look on their faces when they get caught is priceless!



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lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah I don't want a sphinx now. At first I thought it would be the way to go.

But after looking through the pictures. No way.

All of them are cute as kittens.

But the adults can be hedious.

I think the colorpoint or balinese would work.


Okay, now you really need to think of Monster.

He's been "King of the House" for as long as I've been posting with you.

Do you think, he would be accepting of a cat/kitten? 


 We use to have an out side mouser. They got along wonderfully. 

And we had a little kitten show up out here and he was fine with it. Even shared my lap with it.

 



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Can he take an allergy pill to help? I know a few people whose allergies got better after having the cat for a while.


 I don't know. 

Like I just told FWM, we use to have an outside mouser. 

Aaron was good with it outside. Never really noticed a problem.

He has a friend with an inside cat, he gets sneeze after being in their house for a couple hours.

BUT his aunt has 7 cats and he doesn't get sneeze around those.

He went through allergy testing when he was 7. He reacted to cat. But it seems kind of hit or miss.



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weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Aaron wants a cat. But he is allergic to cats.

I have been looking at hypoallergenic cats. 

I looked at the Sphinx cat. But they need weekly grooming because of the oils and such and honestly I don't want a high maintenance cat.

And while the kittens are cute, they can be some seriously ugly adults.

So. I was looking at shorthand cats. 

Can they be trained to stay off cabinets? Cause I can't stand that at all.

And what advice can you cat people give about selecting a cat? 

The ones I always had just showed up at the door and stayed cause I fed them.


 Oh, absolutely! They can be trained to stay off cabinets, countertops and tables.

Once trained, they will never, ever do that...

 

 

.....when there are witnesses.


 LOL! You have it right, Welts!

And the look on their faces when they get caught is priceless!


 And that's a problem.

 



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There's a new study out by the scientists at the University of Edinburgh, claiming that if your cat was bigger, it would try to kill you.
I strongly disagree.


My cat is trying to kill me now.



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People with cat allergies can and do build up and immunity to a certain cat that they are exposed to frequently enough. But, it really depends on the level of the allergy. There is also a solution you can rub the cat down with that helps with the allergies, and that's not a difficult thing to do - I always did it to my cat when my friend would come to stay because she's allergic and it helped. But visiting and living with one are very different.

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I wouldn't do it, lily. Unless it was never allowed indoors. If you have a garage, give it access to that. But make sure you know where it is before you start your car up. Or build a heated house for it outside in the winter months. But if you have wildlife, having an outdoor cat may not be an option either.

I'm getting the boys a hamster. They tested negative for guinea pig allergies (I don't think they were tested for hamsters). We'll see how that goes. At least hamsters can be contained. Well, until they sneak out. But we've had mice in the house and it hasn't been a problem.

Did Aaron ever undergo immunotherapy? G is on maintenance dosage now so he's gone through shots for over a year. I'm not sure if he's helped, as he really hasn't been exposed to cats since starting shots.

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I would get him a tiny dog of his own. Why get him the very thing he is allergic to, just because he wants it? I am with husker on this one. Wanting something that will make you sick isn't a reason to get it. What will happen when he becomes attached to it but it makes him really sick? How will he feel when he has to give it away because he can't breathe? Doesn't make sense to me.

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A squirting gun works great for teaching kitty to stay off the counter. Never let them see you do it. Won't hurt them and they will associate counter with getting wet.

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Can he take an allergy pill to help? I know a few people whose allergies got better after having the cat for a while.


Why?  It's pointless.  There's an obvious solution--don't get a fvcking cat.   


Jeez husker. Your sensitivity, knows no bounds.

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So....it's "insensitive" to suggest that it is maybe not a good idea to get someone who is ALLERGIC to cats--a cat.

 

Wow.  That's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted. 



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I wouldn't do it, lily. Unless it was never allowed indoors. If you have a garage, give it access to that. But make sure you know where it is before you start your car up. Or build a heated house for it outside in the winter months. But if you have wildlife, having an outdoor cat may not be an option either.

I'm getting the boys a hamster. They tested negative for guinea pig allergies (I don't think they were tested for hamsters). We'll see how that goes. At least hamsters can be contained. Well, until they sneak out. But we've had mice in the house and it hasn't been a problem.

Did Aaron ever undergo immunotherapy? G is on maintenance dosage now so he's gone through shots for over a year. I'm not sure if he's helped, as he really hasn't been exposed to cats since starting shots.


You should get them a pair of rats instead of a hamster. Much better pets.

Clean, affectionate, and smart, smart, smart. They can be trained to do tricks, don't bite, and they never run away.

(Never get just one. It will be very unhappy. They're very social animals.) 



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About his allergy.

Like I said, it is hit or miss.

And it isn't a terrible reaction. He get sneezy. That's it.

I'm not sold on getting a cat.

More like thinking it through.

Pros and cons kind of thing.



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Sure--but I can think of a huge "con".

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About his allergy.

Like I said, it is hit or miss.

And it isn't a terrible reaction. He get sneezy. That's it.

I'm not sold on getting a cat.

More like thinking it through.

Pros and cons kind of thing.


Will he clean the litter box every day? 



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He would have to.

And that's another thing. I don't like the idea of having a litter box.



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Aside from the allergy issue, at his age, I'd just say no. In a few years, he'll be off to college and who will care for the cat then.

*From the person allergic to cats and whose DD got a cat as a teenager. First was college and then marriage. Guess who kept the cat?

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Aside from the allergy issue, at his age, I'd just say no. In a few years, he'll be off to college and who will care for the cat then.

*From the person allergic to cats and whose DD got a cat as a teenager. First was college and then marriage. Guess who kept the cat?


Yup.  Just say no.  Not that complicated.  I know kids these days aren't used to hearing that, but it is possible. 



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Cats live about 14-18 years.

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My Goodness, Husker. He isn't actively asking. He has no idea I am thinking about it.

He has said several times over the last 17 years that he wants a cat.

It isn't a "say no" situation.

Chill out.

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Remind me, is Aaron one with a mental difficulty? People with even mild mental issues benefit hugely from a pet, and I personally think cats are the best. Not a lot of care, friendly and affectionate, loads of personality, and most bond with one person very strongly.
My advice, if his allergy is not a bad one to begin with, is to try and find a very young kitten, maybe eight weeks, (probably a tabby, in my experience they bond with people the quickest!) and just let him have it. If you get the kitten when it is itty bitty and not shedding as many allergens, he may never react badly to it.

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No. Jesse is my autistic child.

He likes Monster but only in short doses.

He had a crab for a while.

It died about 3 months after he got it.

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An older kitty from a shelter would be nice.

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