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I love living where I chose.  this time of year is hunting season.  I can go out on my deck at any time and here the gun shots.  Today and for the next week is deer, last week was water foul.  It's strange, the guns don't scare me, sounds more like fireworks.  It is a different life I guess.



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I know what you mean.

I live about a half mile as the crow flies from the county/city firing range.

From day light to dark, 7 days a week.

I've learned to count the shots. Can tell what they are firing sometimes.

And they have been doing bombs for about a year.



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stopped hunting for sport a long time ago--though a life-long member of NRA and supporter of the practice, just sort of lost interest in " hunting " as we know it--bow hunting or hunting with a kbar on foot was a lot more of a rush than capping something from a couple hundred yards with a firearm




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It's been hunting season for over a month here. It ends early January. Then turkey season. That only lasts like two days.

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Generally starts around Thanksgiving here. Deer season that is.

I forget when bow season starts.



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stopped hunting for sport a long time ago--though a life-long member of NRA and supporter of the practice, just sort of lost interest in " hunting " as we know it--bow hunting or hunting with a kbar on foot was a lot more of a rush than capping something from a couple hundred yards with a firearm



I get your point, but to me, hunting is a lot more than just "bagging" some animals. It gives us a chance once a year to get out on our land.  To roam the hills and take stock of our property.  It's also the camaraderie the shared experiences give that can't be duplicated by playing billiards or cards or some other activity.  



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And it puts food on the table.

I don't know why soup kitchens and food banks won't take kills of the hunt.



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And it puts food on the table.

I don't know why soup kitchens and food banks won't take kills of the hunt.


They do here.   



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Really?

They won't here.

Brother tried several time to donate the excess from his kills.

Wouldn't take it.

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Yeah, we have health laws the won't allow it too.

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Why would health laws disallow wild game?

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Why would health laws disallow wild game?


 Because wild game can carry brucellosis, trichinosis, parasites and tuberculosis.



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Why would health laws disallow wild game?


 Because wild game can carry brucellosis, trichinosis, parasites and tuberculosis.


That is just silly.  Any animal can have those--especially "free range" and "grass fed" animals which seem to be all the rage now, and especially if they are "drug and chemical free" which are what are used to treat those things--but those are legal. 

I doubt if the health laws even say that.  I would like to see those statutes if they do.  



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huskerbb wrote:
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Why would health laws disallow wild game?


 Because wild game can carry brucellosis, trichinosis, parasites and tuberculosis.


That is just silly.  Any animal can have those--especially "free range" and "grass fed" animals which seem to be all the rage now, and especially if they are "drug and chemical free" which are what are used to treat those things--but those are legal. 

I doubt if the health laws even say that.  I would like to see those statutes if they do.  


 Look it up.



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Why would health laws disallow wild game?


 Because wild game can carry brucellosis, trichinosis, parasites and tuberculosis.


That is just silly.  Any animal can have those--especially "free range" and "grass fed" animals which seem to be all the rage now, and especially if they are "drug and chemical free" which are what are used to treat those things--but those are legal. 

I doubt if the health laws even say that.  I would like to see those statutes if they do.  


 Look it up.


I did.  Your assertion is just silly.  

 

Sure, animals can get diseases--but that doesn't mean they ALL have them, and domesticated animals can get those same diseases.



-- Edited by huskerbb on Sunday 29th of November 2015 06:34:13 PM

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http://www.sportsmenslink.org/policies/state/game-meat-donation-programs



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Silly? Wild game can carry disease. The homeliess and hungry have enough problems.

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Silly? Wild game can carry disease. The homeliess and hungry have enough problems.


Wow.

Duh.

Again, domesticated meat can also carry diseases.  That does not mean these diseases are found in the meat and it certainly doesn't mean that EVERY animal has EVERY disease, or even one disease. 

 

Hell, most cases of E. coli come from vegetables.  Should we not donate those?

 

Wild game CAN be donated in many states, so it's NOT a health issue.

http://everythingforhunters.com/donating-game-meat-to-charity/ 



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Also, if you think that is the reason--cite the statutes. I've cited policies from states where it is legal.

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Also, that's not the reason, anyway, because it is legal to BUY wild game meat even in states where it cannot be donated.

If it's so unhealthy, you wouldn't be able to buy it, either.

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I don't know. He always had the whole deer processed through a local, state approved slaughter house.

But they wouldn't take it.

He would give it to families, churches and who ever else would take it.



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I don't know. He always had the whole deer processed through a local, state approved slaughter house.

But they wouldn't take it.

He would give it to families, churches and who ever else would take it.


It's not legal in every state--although some states probably don't have laws regarding it specifically.  In many states, it is legal.

It's also legal in Canada--although it may vary by province.   



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I just know we always had a freezer full of deer and he gave away a lot more than he kept.

When I say freezer, I mean a big, upright freezer.



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Also, that's not the reason, anyway, because it is legal to BUY wild game meat even in states where it cannot be donated.

If it's so unhealthy, you wouldn't be able to buy it, either.


 It has to be inspected and deemed safe to eat, because wild animals carry disease.

https://www.brokenarrowranch.com/Articles/WildGameMeatInspection.htm

 



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If people really want organic, it doesn't get any more organic than wild game.

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I don't know. He always had the whole deer processed through a local, state approved slaughter house.

But they wouldn't take it.

He would give it to families, churches and who ever else would take it.


It's not legal in every state--although some states probably don't have laws regarding it specifically.  In many states, it is legal.

It's also legal in Canada--although it may vary by province.   


 They routinely destroy thousands of pounds of venison and moose donated to food banks.



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I'm not a hunter or personally know any hunters but I'd take excess meat if I had the chance.

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There really is no reason for anyone should be hungry in this country. Not with all the game we have.

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There really is no reason for anyone should be hungry in this country. Not with all the game we have.


 Yeah, inner city neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores...

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Why would health laws disallow wild game?


 Because wild game can carry brucellosis, trichinosis, parasites and tuberculosis.


That is just silly.  Any animal can have those--especially "free range" and "grass fed" animals which seem to be all the rage now, and especially if they are "drug and chemical free" which are what are used to treat those things--but those are legal. 

I doubt if the health laws even say that.  I would like to see those statutes if they do.  


 There is no law prohibiting the sale of wild game meat (venison, etc.). There are, however, laws prohibiting the sale of uninspected wild game meat. If wild game meat has received a mark of inspection by a state or federal inspection program, or it has been legally imported, then its sale is legal anywhere within the United States.

Game meats that do not have a mark of inspection cannot be sold. This is the case for game meat harvested by a recreational hunter. The inspection and processing requirements will not be met and the meat cannot be sold.

https://www.brokenarrowranch.com/Articles/WildGameMeatInspection.htm

 

Free range and grass-fed animals sold in stores are inspected prior to sale.

 



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There really is no reason for anyone should be hungry in this country. Not with all the game we have.


 Yeah, inner city neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores...

flan


 I went hunting for wild tomatoes, carrots and cabbages. I had no luck.



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There really is no reason for anyone should be hungry in this country. Not with all the game we have.


 Yeah, inner city neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores...

flan


 I went hunting for wild tomatoes, carrots and cabbages. I had no luck.


 Maybe,  just maybe,  they should move out of those neighborhoods...just sayin...



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Why would health laws disallow wild game?


 Because wild game can carry brucellosis, trichinosis, parasites and tuberculosis.


That is just silly.  Any animal can have those--especially "free range" and "grass fed" animals which seem to be all the rage now, and especially if they are "drug and chemical free" which are what are used to treat those things--but those are legal. 

I doubt if the health laws even say that.  I would like to see those statutes if they do.  


 There is no law prohibiting the sale of wild game meat (venison, etc.). There are, however, laws prohibiting the sale of uninspected wild game meat. If wild game meat has received a mark of inspection by a state or federal inspection program, or it has been legally imported, then its sale is legal anywhere within the United States.

Game meats that do not have a mark of inspection cannot be sold. This is the case for game meat harvested by a recreational hunter. The inspection and processing requirements will not be met and the meat cannot be sold.

https://www.brokenarrowranch.com/Articles/WildGameMeatInspection.htm

 

Free range and grass-fed animals sold in stores are inspected prior to sale.

 


 ????  So what? No one is arguing the meat can't or shouldn't be inspected. 



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We eat a LOT of wild game. G hunts deer, dove, turkey, rabbit, and other wild game. He fishes our property in Canada and brings back freezers full of Walleye (Pickerel as they call it in Canada), salmon, and bass. Yet to have a problem. Liberals like to make mountains out of molehills...

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We eat a LOT of wild game. G hunts deer, dove, turkey, rabbit, and other wild game. He fishes our property in Canada and brings back freezers full of Walleye (Pickerel as they call it in Canada), salmon, and bass. Yet to have a problem. Liberals like to make mountains out of molehills...


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Walleye and pickerel are two different fish.



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Walleye and pickerel are two different fish.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 29th of November 2015 07:34:46 PM


 Really? Because my husband and our Canadian neighbors call it the same thing. G hooks what he calls a Walleye, and Marie calls it a pickerel. What do you think is the difference? 



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Ohfour wrote:
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There really is no reason for anyone should be hungry in this country. Not with all the game we have.


 Yeah, inner city neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores...

flan


 I went hunting for wild tomatoes, carrots and cabbages. I had no luck.


 Maybe,  just maybe,  they should move out of those neighborhoods...just sayin...


 Yep, never understood why they complain but will not move.



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Just called them. They say you are wrong.
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I wouldn't live in the inner city.



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A walleye is sometimes called a pickerel, particularly in English-speaking parts of Canada, but in fact, the walleye and the pickerel are not at all related.

Read more: Difference Between Walleye and Pickerel | Difference Between | Walleye vs Pickerel www.differencebetween.net/object/comparisons-of-food-items/difference-between-walleye-and-pickerel/

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A friend of DH's just put a venison ham in our freezer at the fishing camp. As soon as we can get the hog casings, DH will make two versions of sausage - one mild for me, and one spicy for him. Its fun putting it through the grinder and into the casings! We add equal amounts of pork to the venison, since venison is sooo lean.



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A venison ham?

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Just called them. They say you are wrong.
Just sayin...


 Why on earth did you call? You could have just looked it up. Is your husband omniscient?

Walleye is part of the perch family.

Pickerel is part of the pike family.

Fact.



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 Why on earth did you call? You could have just looked it up. Is your husband omniscient?

Walleye is part of the perch family.

Pickerel is part of the pike family.

Fact.


 Why yes. He is. And you are wrong. Yet again. Unless customs is ignorant.  But I would bet you are, seeing that 5 or 6 times a year we declare walleye and they inspect every fish and approve...



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Hunting is very big around here, especially deer. Weekend before thanksgiving was the youth hunt weekend. I don't remember how many deer they got, but those kids did good. The high schools give you a day off school with your hunting license. Don't know why, but my family has never been into hunting, except for my maternal grandpa, but he hunted small game, mostly rabbits.

I've never liked deer meat. Just not my thing. But I have also been told I haven't had it prepared "right", so I am open. Now, rabbit stew? Yum!

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Hunting is very big around here, especially deer. Weekend before thanksgiving was the youth hunt weekend. I don't remember how many deer they got, but those kids did good. The high schools give you a day off school with your hunting license. Don't know why, but my family has never been into hunting, except for my maternal grandpa, but he hunted small game, mostly rabbits.

I've never liked deer meat. Just not my thing. But I have also been told I haven't had it prepared "right", so I am open. Now, rabbit stew? Yum!


Deer isn't great.  Not nearly as good as beef which people expect it to taste like.  It is much leaner and "gamier".

 

That isn't to say it can't be prepared in certain ways to make it palatable.

I try to marinade my deer steaks and usually make kabobs with it.

We get deer sausage and cheddarwursts--but they are mixed with pork.

The deer burger is mixed with either pork or beef--and it turns out pretty good.

A good deer roast isn't bad--but if you are expecting beef roast, you will be disappointed. 

Deer jerky can be very good depending on how it is done.   



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I don't like jerky of any kind. So the deer jerky I was forced to try as a kid gagged me. The other times I've had deer meat it was very tough and dry. Too chewy for my liking

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I don't like jerky of any kind. So the deer jerky I was forced to try as a kid gagged me. The other times I've had deer meat it was very tough and dry. Too chewy for my liking


It's tougher than beef in general, but you must not have had it prepared very well.   



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