TOTALLY GEEKED!

Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
totallygeeked -> totallygeeked general -> Man 'killed feminist student by stuffing plastic bags down her throat'
Post Info TOPIC: Man 'killed feminist student by stuffing plastic bags down her throat'
Lady Gaga Snerd


Guru

Status: Offline
Posts: 25897
Date:
Man 'killed feminist student by stuffing plastic bags down her throat'
Permalink  
 

'I made a mess': Chilling texts roommate sent after he 'killed feminist student by stuffing plastic bags down her throat'

  • Grace Mann, 20, was found dead in Fredericksburg, Virginia, in April with a plastic bag over her head and bags stuffed down her throat 
  • Steven Vander Briel, a 30-year-old fellow student and her roommate has pleaded not guilty to charges in connection to her murder
  • His lawyer filed a notice of an insanity defense Tuesday after he underwent a psychiatric evaluation
  • Two of their roommates testified during a court hearing about the chilling text messages that Briel sent after he allegedly killed Mann
  • Briel allegedly asked two roommates: 'What would you do if Grace wasn't here anymore?' and said 'I made a mess'

By REGINA F. GRAHAM FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 21:40 EST, 16 December 2015 | UPDATED: 22:47 EST, 16 December 2015

 

20

View comments

 

Chilling text messages that a man sent after he allegedly choked to death his 20-year-old roommate in Virginia have been revealed as his lawyers will use an insanity defense during his murder trial.

Steven Vander Briel is charged with killing Grace Rebecca Mann, a University of Mary Washington student majoring in history and American studies, on April 17. 

The 30-year-old has pleaded not guilty to charges of first-degree murder, strangulation and abduction. 

His attorney filed a notice of an insanity defense Tuesday after using a psychiatrist in Charlottesville, Virginia to do an evaluation on him, NBC Washington reported. 

Scroll down for video 

Police have charged Steven Vander Briel (above), 30, with April 17 first-degree murder, strangulation and abduction of Grace Rebecca Mann
 
+7
Police have charged Steven Vander Briel, 30, with April 17 first-degree murder, strangulation and abduction of 20-year-old Grace Rebecca Mann (above)
 
+7
 

Accused: Police have charged Steven Vander Briel (left), 30, with April 17 first-degree murder, strangulation and abduction of 20-year-old Grace Rebecca Mann (right)

Horrific: Grace Mann (above) was found dead by two other female roommates with plastic bags stuffed down her throat and one cinched around her head inside the home they shared in Virginia
 
+7

Horrific: Grace Mann (above) was found dead by two other female roommates with plastic bags stuffed down her throat and one cinched around her head inside the home they shared in Virginia

Loving family: Grace Mann (left) was the daughter of Thomas Mann (center) , a juvenile and domestic relations court judge in Fairfax County, and Melissa Mann (right)
 
+7

Loving family: Grace Mann (left) was the daughter of Thomas Mann (center) , a juvenile and domestic relations court judge in Fairfax County, and Melissa Mann (right)

However, his attorney would not release the psychiatrist's diagnosis of his client.  

Briel shared a house with Mann, the daughter of a juvenile and domestic relations court judge in Fairfax County, and two other women as a part-time student at the school located in Fredericksburg, Virginia. 

The two other roommates, Holly Aleksonis and Katheryn Erwin, came home and discovered Mann with a plastic bag stuffed down her throat and a plastic shopping bag cinched over hear head as her body lay on the floor with a purple comforter over it, according to Fredericksburg.com.

Briel was still in the house when the grisly discovery was made, but he fled and was later tracked down by police who arrested him.  

According to NBC Washington, the Aleksonis and Erwin said Briel was behaving strangely just before they discovered her body.

Erwin testified over the summer during a hearing that she started receiving text messages from Briel around 2.40pm that day asking when they would be home.  

About 2.40pm, Erwin testified in court, she started getting text messages from Vander Briel asking when they would be home. 

he testified in court that Briel sent a text message to her that said: 'I was in [victim's roommate]'s room and I made a mess.'

During her testimony, Erwin said that Briel seemed 'neurotic, manic' and was making confusing statements when she and Aleksonis arrived back at the home they shared. 

According to her testimony, Erwin said that Briel asked them: 'What would you do if Grace wasn't here anymore and if he needed to move out.'

The roommates also testified that he confessed to them that he killed Mann after they had an argument, according to NBC Washington. 

Briel, who attended UMW from 2002 to 2007, re-enrolled for the spring 2015 semester as a political science major. 

Mann was a well-liked student who was an executive board member of Feminist United and recently appointed to the President's Task Force on Sexual Assault.

She was also a member of the Student Government Association Senate.

'She was moving mountains,' one student, Theresa Buczek, wrote on Facebook. 

 



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3363589/I-mess-Chilling-texts-male-roommate-sent-revealed-killing-feminist-friend-stuffing-plastic-bags-throat-lawyer-pleads-insanity.html#ixzz3ua15Bbdn 
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook




__________________

https://politicsandstuff.proboards.com/
huskerbb


Guru

Status: Offline
Posts: 10215
Date:
Permalink  
 

I don't see what her political leanings have to do with anything. The article doesn't even suggest that they are some type of motivation for the killing.

__________________

I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.

 

Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
FNW


Guru

Status: Offline
Posts: 18703
Date:
Permalink  
 

I agree with you, husker. This another attempt by the media to declare a war on women. No, this is some psycho who killed someone.

Does anyone else think it odd that a 30 year old "student" was rooming with 20 year old students?

Again, bring back the asylums and lock these nut jobs up.

__________________

#it's5o'clocksomewhere
NAOW


Vette's SS

Status: Offline
Posts: 5001
Date:
Permalink  
 

FNW wrote:

I agree with you, husker. This another attempt by the media to declare a war on women. No, this is some psycho who killed someone.

Does anyone else think it odd that a 30 year old "student" was rooming with 20 year old students?

Again, bring back the asylums and lock these nut jobs up.

 That popped out at me too. 

 



__________________
ed11563


Guru

Status: Offline
Posts: 9186
Date:
Permalink  
 

Gee, I think I'd LIKE rooming with three 20 y.o. female students. Where do I sign up?

 



__________________

The Principle of Least Interest: He who cares least about a relationship, controls it.

Always misinterpret when you can.
Lady Gaga Snerd


Guru

Status: Offline
Posts: 25897
Date:
Permalink  
 

NAOW wrote:
FNW wrote:

I agree with you, husker. This another attempt by the media to declare a war on women. No, this is some psycho who killed someone.

Does anyone else think it odd that a 30 year old "student" was rooming with 20 year old students?

Again, bring back the asylums and lock these nut jobs up.

 That popped out at me too. 

 

 Yes, no way i would let my 20 yr old daughter live with some 30 yr old guy.  Nope.



__________________

https://politicsandstuff.proboards.com/
Lawyerlady


On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Status: Offline
Posts: 27192
Date:
Permalink  
 

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
NAOW wrote:
FNW wrote:

I agree with you, husker. This another attempt by the media to declare a war on women. No, this is some psycho who killed someone.

Does anyone else think it odd that a 30 year old "student" was rooming with 20 year old students?

Again, bring back the asylums and lock these nut jobs up.

 That popped out at me too. 

 

 Yes, no way i would let my 20 yr old daughter live with some 30 yr old guy.  Nope.

 You have that option?  I thought adults could do what they wanted.



__________________

LawyerLady

 

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. 
Lady Gaga Snerd


Guru

Status: Offline
Posts: 25897
Date:
Permalink  
 

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
NAOW wrote:
FNW wrote:

I agree with you, husker. This another attempt by the media to declare a war on women. No, this is some psycho who killed someone.

Does anyone else think it odd that a 30 year old "student" was rooming with 20 year old students?

Again, bring back the asylums and lock these nut jobs up.

 That popped out at me too. 

 

 Yes, no way i would let my 20 yr old daughter live with some 30 yr old guy.  Nope.

 You have that option?  I thought adults could do what they wanted.

 Yup.  I do have that option.  You want me to help fund your college, then you play by my rules.  Or, do it yourself.



__________________

https://politicsandstuff.proboards.com/
Lawyerlady


On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Status: Offline
Posts: 27192
Date:
Permalink  
 

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
NAOW wrote:
FNW wrote:

I agree with you, husker. This another attempt by the media to declare a war on women. No, this is some psycho who killed someone.

Does anyone else think it odd that a 30 year old "student" was rooming with 20 year old students?

Again, bring back the asylums and lock these nut jobs up.

 That popped out at me too. 

 

 Yes, no way i would let my 20 yr old daughter live with some 30 yr old guy.  Nope.

 You have that option?  I thought adults could do what they wanted.

 Yup.  I do have that option.  You want me to help fund your college, then you play by my rules.  Or, do it yourself.

 There ya go.  We agree on something today.  LOL!



__________________

LawyerLady

 

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. 
Lady Gaga Snerd


Guru

Status: Offline
Posts: 25897
Date:
Permalink  
 

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
NAOW wrote:
FNW wrote:

I agree with you, husker. This another attempt by the media to declare a war on women. No, this is some psycho who killed someone.

Does anyone else think it odd that a 30 year old "student" was rooming with 20 year old students?

Again, bring back the asylums and lock these nut jobs up.

 That popped out at me too. 

 

 Yes, no way i would let my 20 yr old daughter live with some 30 yr old guy.  Nope.

 You have that option?  I thought adults could do what they wanted.

 Yup.  I do have that option.  You want me to help fund your college, then you play by my rules.  Or, do it yourself.

 There ya go.  We agree on something today.  LOL!

 OMG thank goodness!  I was starting to worry!  lol  biggrin



__________________

https://politicsandstuff.proboards.com/
Ohfour


Hooker

Status: Offline
Posts: 12666
Date:
Permalink  
 

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
NAOW wrote:
FNW wrote:

I agree with you, husker. This another attempt by the media to declare a war on women. No, this is some psycho who killed someone.

Does anyone else think it odd that a 30 year old "student" was rooming with 20 year old students?

Again, bring back the asylums and lock these nut jobs up.

 That popped out at me too. 

 

 Yes, no way i would let my 20 yr old daughter live with some 30 yr old guy.  Nope.

 You have that option?  I thought adults could do what they wanted.

 Yup.  I do have that option.  You want me to help fund your college, then you play by my rules.  Or, do it yourself.

Yep. Pretty much.  When DD moved in with her BF, I stopped paying her car insurance, her cell phone, and every other bill I was paying.   



__________________

America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Lady Gaga Snerd


Guru

Status: Offline
Posts: 25897
Date:
Permalink  
 

He probably convinced them they would be safer having a male live with them.

__________________

https://politicsandstuff.proboards.com/
Lawyerlady


On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Status: Offline
Posts: 27192
Date:
Permalink  
 

That had to be a horrible way to die.

__________________

LawyerLady

 

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. 
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.
totallygeeked -> totallygeeked general -> Man 'killed feminist student by stuffing plastic bags down her throat'


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse 		Powered by ActiveBoard