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Muslim woman escorted out of Trump rally; Council on American-Islamic Relations seeks apology

January 9, 2016 By The Associated Press

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks at a Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks at a rally in Mt. Pleasant, S.C., on Dec. 7, 2015. (Credit: AP)

Rose Hamid attended one of Donald Trump's rallies in silent protest over some of his campaign statements, but by the time the South Carolina event was over, the Muslim woman said she had been heckled by people in the crowd and escorted out by security guards. Now she's awaiting a response from the Republican front-runner.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations has issued a call to the campaign of the GOP contender to apologize over Hamid's treatment at the event Friday night. And Hamid said by Saturday afternoon she hadn't received any response.

"I would like to hear what Trump has to say about it," she told The Associated Press by phone. "I'd like to hear because if they say that it was because we were disrupting things, then I would like him to show evidence of where the disruption came, because the disruption didn't come from me. It came from his followers because they saw me."

 

Trump didn't address the incident on Saturday while campaigning in Ottumwa, Iowa. But he defended his proposal to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the country. He said his call had changed the dialogue and drawn attention to radical Islamic terrorism, which he described as "a very deep-seated problem that we have in this country and throughout the world.'"

Besides seeking an apology, CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad called on Trump to meet with American Muslim leaders to help stem the anti-Muslim sentiment they said is being produced by his rhetoric and that of other Republican presidential hopefuls.

The Charlotte-based flight attendant said she joined thousands of others at Friday's rally by the Republican presidential frontrunner at Winthrop University in Rock Hill, South Carolina. She said there were no problems as she waited in line to enter and hear Trump speak. In fact, she said, one woman came up to her and said she was glad to see her at the rally.

"I didn't get a bad vibe from anyone," she said. "The people I made personal contact with were very pleasant."

Hamid said the mood shifted once the rally began, adding the spotlight began to shift to her.

"My intention was to stand up when he said something that was offensive, not just for Muslims but for anyone," she said.

It was when Hamid stood up that she said people around her began to chant "Trump, Trump, Trump." She said organizers had told the audience that if they saw anyone attempting to disrupt his speech, they were to begin chanting to point where the protester was located.

People behind her began chanting, she said, and Trump soon acknowledged the chant. At that point, Hamid said she and a fellow protester were asked to leave.

Then, she said, came the verbal taunts from the audience.

"There was a guy who was saying 'Do you have a bomb Do you have a bomb?' This is an older man," Hamid said. "And I said 'No, do you have a bomb?'" She said another man yelled at her to get out. Hamid said security officials didn't touch her as they led her out, adding "I was glad that nobody got physical and did anything scary."

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So someone goes to a rally of someone she clearly doesn't like filled with supporters of policies she doesn't like and is all offended that she was heckled by a few people in the crowd? confuse



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Oh, I'm sorry, I thought it was still a free country?

And she wasn't "just" heckled. Trump could have silenced the crowd, since he's all powerful. Instead she was escorted out by security guards.

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What is it she wants Trump to do?

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Oh, I'm sorry, I thought it was still a free country?

And she wasn't "just" heckled. Trump could have silenced the crowd, since he's all powerful. Instead she was escorted out by security guards.

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 it is a free country.  Free where other people don't have to agree or act in manner that any of us necessarily agree with or like.  And, it's a private event.  They can escort people out if they choose too.  But, don't worry, I am sure their is a big fat lawsuit waiting in the wings.



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Her intention was to disrupt the rally. It didn't go the way she expected.

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Oh, I'm sorry, I thought it was still a free country?

And she wasn't "just" heckled. Trump could have silenced the crowd, since he's all powerful. Instead she was escorted out by security guards.

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 Sure, its a free country for now.  She can go anywhere she wants pretty much.  Just don't be all shocked when she is heckled.  And what is Trump to do or any candidate for that matter?  He has security guards to keep the peace and if that means removing the object of a disruption so be it.  It was handled and she was safely escorted out.



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From the OP:

Rose Hamid attended one of Donald Trump's rallies in silent protest over some of his campaign statements.

"I would like to hear what Trump has to say about it," she told The Associated Press by phone. "I'd like to hear because if they say that it was because we were disrupting things, then I would like him to show evidence of where the disruption came, because the disruption didn't come from me. It came from his followers because they saw me."

At least that's what I read.

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flan327 wrote:

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Rose Hamid attended one of Donald Trump's rallies in silent protest over some of his campaign statements.

"I would like to hear what Trump has to say about it," she told The Associated Press by phone. "I'd like to hear because if they say that it was because we were disrupting things, then I would like him to show evidence of where the disruption came, because the disruption didn't come from me. It came from his followers because they saw me."

At least that's what I read.

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 The disruption came when she stood up.



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Yep, she stood up anytime he said something she didn't agree with.

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OH MY GOD!

She STOOD UP.

She should be shot.

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 If a possible Presidential candidate targeted YOUR religion or ethnicity or life style, what would YOU do?

Hide in a corner? Not me.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:

From the OP:

Rose Hamid attended one of Donald Trump's rallies in silent protest over some of his campaign statements.

"I would like to hear what Trump has to say about it," she told The Associated Press by phone. "I'd like to hear because if they say that it was because we were disrupting things, then I would like him to show evidence of where the disruption came, because the disruption didn't come from me. It came from his followers because they saw me."

At least that's what I read.

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 The disruption came when she stood up.


 Did she scream obscenities? Throw things?

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OH MY GOD!

She STOOD UP.

She should be shot.

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 I would find that annoying and disruptive if I was sitting near her, especially if she was in  front of me. 



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 If a possible Presidential candidate targeted YOUR religion or ethnicity or life style, what would YOU do?

Hide in a corner? Not me.

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Vote for the other guy.  



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Cmon, this is exactly what she wanted. If she didn't want to get attention she wouldn't have done it.



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Cmon, this is exactly what she wanted. If she didn't want to get attention she wouldn't have done it.


 And I see nothing wrong with a peaceful protest.

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Cmon, this is exactly what she wanted. If she didn't want to get attention she wouldn't have done it.


 And I see nothing wrong with a peaceful protest.

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 Neither do I.  So if one wants to peacefully protest, they go to city hall, obtain a protest permit and protest on public property.  Once you step onto private property, those rules do not  exist especially if what you are doing is creating an issue, which it was.



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She said organizers had told the audience that if they saw anyone attempting to disrupt his speech, they were to begin chanting to point where the protester was located.

 


She went with the intention of disrupting the event.

She earned that removal. 

 

 



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Didn't she have a jewish star or some kind of symbol on her shirt that represented the Holocaust?

I am glad to see a no-nonsense, strong man, in power.

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She said organizers had told the audience that if they saw anyone attempting to disrupt his speech, they were to begin chanting to point where the protester was located.

 


She went with the intention of disrupting the event.

She earned that removal. 

 

 


 If Trump can't handle ONE WOMAN standing up...no

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Didn't she have a jewish star or some kind of symbol on her shirt that represented the Holocaust?

I am glad to see a no-nonsense, strong man, in power.


 I'm confused...we're talking about Trump here...

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Didn't she have a jewish star or some kind of symbol on her shirt that represented the Holocaust?

I am glad to see a no-nonsense, strong man, in power.


 Me, too. 

If this one was allowed to disrupt, next time there would have been 5 disrupting a speech. And the next time it would be 20.

 

 



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Didn't she have a jewish star or some kind of symbol on her shirt that represented the Holocaust?

I am glad to see a no-nonsense, strong man, in power.


 Me, too. 

If this one was allowed to disrupt, next time there would have been 5 disrupting a speech. And the next time it would be 20.

 

 


 The big, strong man had his guards do his dirty work.

You actually think there are never hecklers at a political rally?

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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
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Didn't she have a jewish star or some kind of symbol on her shirt that represented the Holocaust?

I am glad to see a no-nonsense, strong man, in power.


 Me, too. 

If this one was allowed to disrupt, next time there would have been 5 disrupting a speech. And the next time it would be 20.

 

 


 The big, strong man had his guards do his dirty work.

You actually think there are never hecklers at a political rally?

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Hecklers have been removed from lots of political rally's, what makes her so special?

Oh, yeah, she's muslim. So SHE gets special treatment, right?

Her intent was to disrupt. It is enough. 



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SHE STOOD UP.

How many people were at the rally?

ONE person silently standing up...THE HORROR.

And, considering Trump's remarks about Muslims, her concern is valid.

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Flan, this is just smoke and mirrors and a pony show. There is just more staged crap. It's a political rally. If you don't support the candidate for whom the rally is for, you are going to get booed and called names. Wah, wah, wah.

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See, that's the thing. Liberals have been trying to browbeat people with these things for years. Nobody wants be called a racist, sexist or whatever 'phobe" of the month is. You know what? WE DON'T CARE anymore. Call us whatever you want to call us. Don't freaking care. I know who i am as a person. So, toss whatever labels you want to toss. We are all soooo over your PC CRAPOLA.

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Flan, this is just smoke and mirrors and a pony show. There is just more staged crap. It's a political rally. If you don't support the candidate for whom the rally is for, you are going to get booed and called names. Wah, wah, wah.


 Exactly.

This woman went in with clear intentions. 

Her only objective was to disrupt.

 



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I'm standing up now.

Maybe I'll get fired...

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

See, that's the thing. Liberals have been trying to browbeat people with these things for years. Nobody wants be called a racist, sexist or whatever 'phobe" of the month is. You know what? WE DON'T CARE anymore. Call us whatever you want to call us. Don't freaking care. I know who i am as a person. So, toss whatever labels you want to toss. We are all soooo over your PC CRAPOLA.


 I haven't called you anything, neither have I browbeaten anyone.

Conservatives are SO perfect.

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This was a private event. They had the right to remove anyone they wanted.

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Even a public events have rules and have had people removed.

This woman says she was warmly greeted in line. Said she felt completely safe.

This woman said she was there with the intent to disrupt the speech.

There was a rule of no disruptive behavior.

This woman, who was treated warmly and felt safe, had ulterior motives.

She brought this on herself.

And that is what needs to be addressed.

Shame on her.

She is lucky she wasn't arrested.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

Even a public events have rules and have had people removed.

This woman says she was warmly greeted in line. Said she felt completely safe.

This woman said she was there with the intent to disrupt the speech.

There was a rule of no disruptive behavior.

This woman, who was treated warmly and felt safe, had ulterior motives.

She brought this on herself.

And that is what needs to be addressed.

Shame on her.

She is lucky she wasn't arrested.



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Sunday 10th of January 2016 01:56:32 PM


 What exactly is the sentence for STANDING UP?

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This was a private event. They had the right to remove anyone they wanted.


 I agree, but the story still makes me giggle.

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Didn't she have a jewish star or some kind of symbol on her shirt that represented the Holocaust?

I am glad to see a no-nonsense, strong man, in power.


 Me, too. 

If this one was allowed to disrupt, next time there would have been 5 disrupting a speech. And the next time it would be 20.

 

 


 The big, strong man had his guards do his dirty work.

You actually think there are never hecklers at a political rally?

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Yeah--and they get taken out. Hilary did the same thing just a week or so ago.  



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Is there usually a chance for someone in the audience to ask him questions? Couldn't she just ask him questions about her concerns? Not just this avenue but a lot of private assemblies has been interrupted by hecklers not allowing the speaker to talk just because they don't agree with them. I do not agree with Sanders or Hillary but will never interrupt their speech just because I don't agree with them.

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flan327 wrote:
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Didn't she have a jewish star or some kind of symbol on her shirt that represented the Holocaust?

I am glad to see a no-nonsense, strong man, in power.


 Me, too. 

If this one was allowed to disrupt, next time there would have been 5 disrupting a speech. And the next time it would be 20.

 

 


 The big, strong man had his guards do his dirty work.

You actually think there are never hecklers at a political rally?

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  Now flan do you think Trump should have came down and dragged her out himself?smile



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Didn't she have a jewish star or some kind of symbol on her shirt that represented the Holocaust?

I am glad to see a no-nonsense, strong man, in power.


 Me, too. 

If this one was allowed to disrupt, next time there would have been 5 disrupting a speech. And the next time it would be 20.

 

 


 The big, strong man had his guards do his dirty work.

You actually think there are never hecklers at a political rally?

flan


  Now flan do you think Trump should have came down and dragged her out himself?smile


He should have gone down off the stage and hugged her for being so brave. 

 



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How is standing and sitting in silence disruptive? ?

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You know, you lot are the WORST hypocrites.
Remember the lovely thread about a Christian woman storming onstage and taking a microphone during a Muslim peace rally? And she started yelling and saying derogatory things?
You lot APPLAUDED her. You got nasty because she was literally dragged away.


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How is standing and sitting in silence disruptive? ?


 I've asked the same question 3 or 4 times.

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You know, you lot are the WORST hypocrites.
Remember the lovely thread about a Christian woman storming onstage and taking a microphone during a Muslim peace rally? And she started yelling and saying derogatory things?
You lot APPLAUDED her. You got nasty because she was literally dragged away.


 I don't remember that thread.  I don't think that is right either.



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A LOT of people applauded her. Defended her.
Because, yelling and screaming and disrupting a peaceful gathering is totally okay if you are a Christian.
But a Muslim quietly standing needs t be dragged away.


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A LOT of people applauded her. Defended her.
Because, yelling and screaming and disrupting a peaceful gathering is totally okay if you are a Christian.
But a Muslim quietly standing needs t be dragged away.


 And executed in the public square...

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She wasn't doing anything disruptive. She was standing silently - which other people may have been doing also, it happens in crowded events. The disruption came when the people around her started chanting and being louder than the speaker. If they had not chanted, I doubt anyone would have known she was there or what she was literally/figuratively standing for.



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You know, you lot are the WORST hypocrites.
Remember the lovely thread about a Christian woman storming onstage and taking a microphone during a Muslim peace rally? And she started yelling and saying derogatory things?
You lot APPLAUDED her. You got nasty because she was literally dragged away.


 I don't remember that thread.  I don't think that is right either.


 I don't remember that situation at all. 

 



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You know, you lot are the WORST hypocrites.
Remember the lovely thread about a Christian woman storming onstage and taking a microphone during a Muslim peace rally? And she started yelling and saying derogatory things?
You lot APPLAUDED her. You got nasty because she was literally dragged away.


 I don't remember that thread.  I don't think that is right either.


 I don't remember that situation at all. 

 


 Ah, the collective amnesia. How very convient. 



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flan327 wrote:
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How is standing and sitting in silence disruptive? ?


 I've asked the same question 3 or 4 times.

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 I answered once. If she was standing next to, or in front of me, even silently, I would have found it pretty distracting and disruptive.



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