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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

School Shooting in Canada

ed11563 · Guru

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I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

WHAT? Canada is not immune to school shootings?? Ok bad time to be sarcastic. That shooting is horrible.

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

That is so sad.

Prayers said, for the victims, and their loved ones.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
WHAT? Canada is not immune to school shootings?? Ok bad time to be sarcastic. That shooting is horrible.

Ok quoting myself. My sarcasm was meant for Weltz since she seems to hate our gun laws so much. Not a time for sarcasm so I apologize.

This shooting is as awful as any other shooting. NO COUNTRY is immune to it. And it is so sad.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Yup, never happens in Canada.

Sadly, that has now changed.

Tinydancer · Guru

Ok. This is just wrong. No matter what your problem with welts is this is awful. My apologies for my countrymen (and women) right now. My thoughts are with all my Canadian friends and relatives affected by this tragedy.

karl271 · Guru

I, too, was surprised when I saw this on our noon news. Looks like this kind of irresponsible shooting is spreading.....
I am thinking that depression/rejection/etc. is causing some people to act out like this; where are the parents, teachers, etc. who need to catch this kind of thing in the bud?

weltschmerz · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
WHAT? Canada is not immune to school shootings?? Ok bad time to be sarcastic. That shooting is horrible.

That was uncalled for.

In any case, you have one school shooting a week. The last one we had was 10 years ago.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

karl271 wrote:
I, too, was surprised when I saw this on our noon news. Looks like this kind of irresponsible shooting is spreading.....
I am thinking that depression/rejection/etc. is causing some people to act out like this; where are the parents, teachers, etc. who need to catch this kind of thing in the bud?

I don't know how Canada works so I won't speak for them. I know in the US that we have pretty much tied the hands of people who are trying to help those who are disturbed. The system won't help UNTIL they commit a crime. By then it's too late.

weltschmerz · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
WHAT? Canada is not immune to school shootings?? Ok bad time to be sarcastic. That shooting is horrible.
Ok quoting myself. My sarcasm was meant for Weltz since she seems to hate our gun laws so much. Not a time for sarcasm so I apologize.

This shooting is as awful as any other shooting. NO COUNTRY is immune to it. And it is so sad.

Weltz has guns.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
Ok. This is just wrong. No matter what your problem with welts is this is awful. My apologies for my countrymen (and women) right now. My thoughts are with all my Canadian friends and relatives affected by this tragedy.

I really like this post.

Thank you.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
WHAT? Canada is not immune to school shootings?? Ok bad time to be sarcastic. That shooting is horrible.
That was uncalled for.
In any case, you have one school shooting a week. The last one we had was 10 years ago.

Pity that you had to state the obvious.

flan

FNW · Guru

How horrible. Was it a refugee?

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Wow.

No. It wasn't a refugee. It was a native Canadian. It occurred in a town with 20% unemployment and a high native population. It sounds like a pretty difficult place to live - weltz feel free to correct me if I am wrong. This is the impression I got from the articles I read.

Assuming it's a refugee?!?! I just don't even know what to say about that.

FNW · Guru

I didn't assume, I asked. With all those that they let in, and with the state of this world, my first thought was "was this an act of ISIS." I don't think that's unusual, in this day and age.

Very sad either way.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

It's a fair question. And, the media seems to neglect to tell the public when a crime was committed by an illegal immigrant.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
WHAT? Canada is not immune to school shootings?? Ok bad time to be sarcastic. That shooting is horrible.
That was uncalled for.
In any case, you have one school shooting a week. The last one we had was 10 years ago.

Sorry, but you bring it on yourself. You take any opportunity to jump on our supposedly "lax" gun laws while crying from the rooftops how much better Canada is at this.

No one is immune. Laws don't stop bullets.

huskerbb · Guru

As someone pointed out the other day, nearly all school shootings involve someone who is connected to the school in some way. Many have been students--both at the high/middle school and college levels. Adam Lanza's mother taught at Sandy Hook.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
As someone pointed out the other day, nearly all school shootings involve someone who is connected to the school in some way. Many have been students--both at the high/middle school and college levels. Adam Lanza's mother taught at Sandy Hook.

That's a great point.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

FNW wrote:
I didn't assume, I asked. With all those that they let in, and with the state of this world, my first thought was "was this an act of ISIS." I don't think that's unusual, in this day and age.

Very sad either way.

Everytime something bad happens, I don't automatically jump to "is it terrorism?" That seems to me, to be a pretty sad way to live. It's actually hardly ever terrorists. It's usually young white men.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
FNW wrote:
I didn't assume, I asked. With all those that they let in, and with the state of this world, my first thought was "was this an act of ISIS." I don't think that's unusual, in this day and age.

Very sad either way.
Everytime something bad happens, I don't automatically jump to "is it terrorism?" That seems to me, to be a pretty sad way to live. It's actually hardly ever terrorists. It's usually young white men.

Well, the media immediately jumps to looking for some link to the Tea Party or Repos. And, we have a President who pretends that terror attacks are NOT terror attacks. so I think people can come to their own conclusions.

weltschmerz · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Wow.

No. It wasn't a refugee. It was a native Canadian. It occurred in a town with 20% unemployment and a high native population. It sounds like a pretty difficult place to live - weltz feel free to correct me if I am wrong. This is the impression I got from the articles I read.

Assuming it's a refugee?!?! I just don't even know what to say about that.

Yes, it's a First Nation village. Conditions there are horrible. High unemployment, rampant drug and alcohol abuse, neglectful parents who don't notice their toddlers have ventured out in minus 40 degree weather and freeze to death, domestic violence, murders, etc. Many places don 't have plumbing or running water. We've thrown untold amounts of money at the problem, and often the village chiefs keep the money for themselves and refuse to account for it. We're not allowed to ask how they spend it.

Even in the "dry" communities, there have been instances of people ripping the hand sanitizers off the walls in hospitals and clinics, and drinking the contents. Everyone has guns....they hunt a lot.

Sometimes they move to cities to find work, but they're discriminated against because of their propensities for drug and alcohol problems, and they end up on Skid Row.

We don't know what else to do. Maybe our new "Sunny Days" Prime Minister can figure it out.

I won't hold my breath.

It's a huge problem. We really don't know what else to do.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Wow.

No. It wasn't a refugee. It was a native Canadian. It occurred in a town with 20% unemployment and a high native population. It sounds like a pretty difficult place to live - weltz feel free to correct me if I am wrong. This is the impression I got from the articles I read.

Assuming it's a refugee?!?! I just don't even know what to say about that.
Yes, it's a First Nation village. Conditions there are horrible. High unemployment, rampant drug and alcohol abuse, neglectful parents who don't notice their toddlers have ventured out in minus 40 degree weather and freeze to death, domestic violence, murders, etc. Many places don 't have plumbing or running water. We've thrown untold amounts of money at the problem, and often the village chiefs keep the money for themselves and refuse to account for it. We're not allowed to ask how they spend it.
Even in the "dry" communities, there have been instances of people ripping the hand sanitizers off the walls in hospitals and clinics, and drinking the contents. Everyone has guns....they hunt a lot.
Sometimes they move to cities to find work, but they're discriminated against because of their propensities for drug and alcohol problems, and they end up on Skid Row.
We don't know what else to do. Maybe our new "Sunny Days" Prime Minister can figure it out.
I won't hold my breath.
It's a huge problem. We really don't know what else to do.

The native reservations here are not much different. They are full of poverty, alcoholism, and crime. Very few even WANT jobs--they say the tribe will "take care of them", which basically means they give them enough to subsist on, but they are still mired in poverty.

One day, I sat in a restaurant in the town I work in. 5 Indian girls came in. They were all 14-15 years old or so.

The sad reality is that two of them will probably be pregnant in two years or less. It's unlikely more than two will graduate high school. If even one goes on to college it would be a miracle. It's doubtful any of them will ever experience life outside of poverty. At least two, if not three, won't see their 50th birthdays.

Yet at this point, they are all seemingly "normal" girls early in their high school years.

weltschmerz · Guru

Angry mobs attack RCMP officers and teachers who go up there quit because of PTSD. One teacher had a student break into her home and stabbed her many times. She survived, but will never be the same.
We've even tried to get the kids involved in sports as a incentive to go to school.
I remember when my son was playing hockey and the First Nations team won. I offered my phone to one of the kids to call home and tell his parents about his victory. He declined, saying "They don't even know I'm gone, and don't care."
It's really sad.

FNW · Guru

When I lived in WV I volunteered to work with children who were considered "at risk" for dropping out of school. The boy I had only wanted to do his homework. His mother was a single mom and from the sound of it, slept all the time. His brother dropped out at 15 to work for Wal-Mart to support the family. He couldn't wait until he was 15 so he could do the same. It was quite sad.

weltschmerz · Guru

FNW wrote:
I didn't assume, I asked. With all those that they let in, and with the state of this world, my first thought was "was this an act of ISIS." I don't think that's unusual, in this day and age.

Very sad either way.

I don't understand why you'd even go there right away. Has there been a spate of school shootings in North America by ISIS that I wasn't aware of?

We wouldn't even send refugees to the frozen wastelands up north and they wouldn't be welcomed, anyway.

weltschmerz · Guru

It’s the level of government very few Albertans ever think about. Forty-five aboriginal bands, each with elected chiefs and councils, managing hundreds of millions of dollars in federal and provincial tax money.

The real cake (so far) goes to Chief Ron Giesbrecht of the Kwickwetlem First Nation in British Columbia, who took home $914,219 last year. That is the equivalent of making about $1,644,000. Rub your eyes and look at that again. That’s $1.644 million. How many people live on this reserve? Thirty-nine. That’s $42,153.85 for every man, woman and child on this reserve.

http://calgaryherald.com/opinion/fildebrandt-and-bateman-some-first-nations-chiefs-pay-themselves-too-much

I don't think throwing more money at the problem will solve anything.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Wow.

No. It wasn't a refugee. It was a native Canadian. It occurred in a town with 20% unemployment and a high native population. It sounds like a pretty difficult place to live - weltz feel free to correct me if I am wrong. This is the impression I got from the articles I read.

Assuming it's a refugee?!?! I just don't even know what to say about that.
Yes, it's a First Nation village. Conditions there are horrible. High unemployment, rampant drug and alcohol abuse, neglectful parents who don't notice their toddlers have ventured out in minus 40 degree weather and freeze to death, domestic violence, murders, etc. Many places don 't have plumbing or running water. We've thrown untold amounts of money at the problem, and often the village chiefs keep the money for themselves and refuse to account for it. We're not allowed to ask how they spend it.
Even in the "dry" communities, there have been instances of people ripping the hand sanitizers off the walls in hospitals and clinics, and drinking the contents. Everyone has guns....they hunt a lot.
Sometimes they move to cities to find work, but they're discriminated against because of their propensities for drug and alcohol problems, and they end up on Skid Row.
We don't know what else to do. Maybe our new "Sunny Days" Prime Minister can figure it out.
I won't hold my breath.
It's a huge problem. We really don't know what else to do.

If you guys ever figure it out, we could use some suggestions for our inner cities.

I worked at an inner-city branch for 10 years...It's not for the faint of heart. Nuclear families are few & far between. You notice a kid, seems bright, likes to ~gasp~ READ, and you HOPE that he or she can break out of the pattern, but time & time again, you see them making the same bad choices that their parents & grandparents did: dropping out of school, kids out of wedlock, on welfare, drugs...

How DOES one change that kind of ingrained thinking?

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

FNW wrote:
I didn't assume, I asked. With all those that they let in, and with the state of this world, my first thought was "was this an act of ISIS." I don't think that's unusual, in this day and age.

Very sad either way.

I won't lie, I wondered the same thing.

weltschmerz · Guru

I don't know. They're still really angry about the residential schools run by Canadian churches, which basically kidnapped Indian children, placed them in boarding schools where they had the "Indian" beaten out of them, subjected to terrible physical and sexual abuse, and where the mortality rate was 60%.
Lots of mass graves.
Can't really say I blame them for being angry.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 23rd of January 2016 03:20:30 PM

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

I messed up.

-- Edited by just Czech on Saturday 23rd of January 2016 03:11:46 PM

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

just Czech wrote:
Looks like Canada is as bad as the USA at letting the natives HAVE their own culture and have it respected by none natives.

Is there also a huge problem with funds meant for the natives being stolen from them? It's a huge problem here.

The guy that killed his whole family and himself recently (in South Dakota), was in charge of 5.3 million for the natives, yet most of that money disappeared. It has been a rampant problem of theft by "governing" of native funds.

I think I read the book about the abuse of Canada's natives a few years back. A heart braking read. Yet, every single native is judged by the invaders who have abused them.

huskerbb · Guru

The reservation system was foolish from the beginning, and it's even more so, now.

It's not like the natives would even WANT to have a bunch of open range where they are living in teepees and hunting buffalo if that were even possible, anymore.

The whole system perpetuates poverty and alcoholism.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
The reservation system was foolish from the beginning, and it's even more so, now.

It's not like the natives would even WANT to have a bunch of open range where they are living in teepees and hunting buffalo if that were even possible, anymore.

The whole system perpetuates poverty and alcoholism.

I agree, but how are you going to preserve their culture and integrate them into the white way of life?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Teepees?

Hahaha.....

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The reservation system was foolish from the beginning, and it's even more so, now.

It's not like the natives would even WANT to have a bunch of open range where they are living in teepees and hunting buffalo if that were even possible, anymore.

The whole system perpetuates poverty and alcoholism.
I agree, but how are you going to preserve their culture and integrate them into the white way of life?

It's not our problem to preserve their culture.

Germans, Irish, Poles, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Japanese, Jews, even Blacks and Hispanics have integrated to a great degree and still kept elements of their culture.

It's not up to the government or society at large to help any group preserve their culture. That is up to them.

Again, even if it were possible to return to the days of Buffalo hunting and living in teepees--which were key elements of their culture--how many would want to? Probably none.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
I don't know. They're still really angry about the residential schools run by Canadian churches, which basically kidnapped Indian children, placed them in boarding schools where they had the "Indian" beaten out of them, subjected to terrible physical and sexual abuse, and where the mortality rate was 60%.
Lots of mass graves.
Can't really say I blame them for being angry.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 23rd of January 2016 03:20:30 PM

I can't imagine being put through that, welts.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Reservations were the equivalent of concentration camps.

They were not meant to "let them keep their ways". If that were the case, the U.S. government would have no jurisdiction at all.

The reservations were meant to contain and control.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Reservations were the equivalent of concentration camps.

They were not meant to "let them keep their ways". If that were the case, the U.S. government would have no jurisdiction at all.

The reservations were meant to contain and control.

Maybe--but that's not the way it is now. No one is forced to stay there. They are free to leave.

weltschmerz · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The reservation system was foolish from the beginning, and it's even more so, now.

It's not like the natives would even WANT to have a bunch of open range where they are living in teepees and hunting buffalo if that were even possible, anymore.

The whole system perpetuates poverty and alcoholism.
I agree, but how are you going to preserve their culture and integrate them into the white way of life?

Why should they intergrate into the white way of life? They have a rich cultural heritage and they were here first.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Reservations were the equivalent of concentration camps.

They were not meant to "let them keep their ways". If that were the case, the U.S. government would have no jurisdiction at all.

The reservations were meant to contain and control.

Maybe--but that's not the way it is now. No one is forced to stay there. They are free to leave.

True.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The reservation system was foolish from the beginning, and it's even more so, now.

It's not like the natives would even WANT to have a bunch of open range where they are living in teepees and hunting buffalo if that were even possible, anymore.

The whole system perpetuates poverty and alcoholism.
I agree, but how are you going to preserve their culture and integrate them into the white way of life?
Why should they intergrate into the white way of life? They have a rich cultural heritage and they were here first.

Because the results of not doing so are exactly what we've been describing. Alcoholism, dropping out of school, poverty, crime, and everything else. Even you described it.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The reservation system was foolish from the beginning, and it's even more so, now.

It's not like the natives would even WANT to have a bunch of open range where they are living in teepees and hunting buffalo if that were even possible, anymore.

The whole system perpetuates poverty and alcoholism.
I agree, but how are you going to preserve their culture and integrate them into the white way of life?
It's not our problem to preserve their culture.
Germans, Irish, Poles, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Japanese, Jews, even Blacks and Hispanics have integrated to a great degree and still kept elements of their culture.
It's not up to the government or society at large to help any group preserve their culture. That is up to them.
Again, even if it were possible to return to the days of Buffalo hunting and living in teepees--which were key elements of their culture--how many would want to? Probably none.

Yes, yes, I know. They lost the war. They did not loose the right to the practice of their heritage though. And that is really what the whites want to take away from the natives.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The reservation system was foolish from the beginning, and it's even more so, now.

It's not like the natives would even WANT to have a bunch of open range where they are living in teepees and hunting buffalo if that were even possible, anymore.

The whole system perpetuates poverty and alcoholism.
I agree, but how are you going to preserve their culture and integrate them into the white way of life?
It's not our problem to preserve their culture.
Germans, Irish, Poles, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Japanese, Jews, even Blacks and Hispanics have integrated to a great degree and still kept elements of their culture.
It's not up to the government or society at large to help any group preserve their culture. That is up to them.
Again, even if it were possible to return to the days of Buffalo hunting and living in teepees--which were key elements of their culture--how many would want to? Probably none.
Yes, yes, I know. They lost the war. They did not loose the right to the practice of their heritage though. And that is really what the whites want to take away from the natives.

Yeah, they kind of did. Their heritage--at least for the Plains tribes--was a nomadic lifestyle hunting buffalo from Southern Canada to Kansas and from Iowa to Eastern Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana. That is no longer possible.

No one (at least currently) is trying to take away their language or outlaw pow-wows which they still hold--but neither is it anyone else's responsibility to preserve it.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The reservation system was foolish from the beginning, and it's even more so, now.

It's not like the natives would even WANT to have a bunch of open range where they are living in teepees and hunting buffalo if that were even possible, anymore.

The whole system perpetuates poverty and alcoholism.
I agree, but how are you going to preserve their culture and integrate them into the white way of life?
It's not our problem to preserve their culture.
Germans, Irish, Poles, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Japanese, Jews, even Blacks and Hispanics have integrated to a great degree and still kept elements of their culture.
It's not up to the government or society at large to help any group preserve their culture. That is up to them.
Again, even if it were possible to return to the days of Buffalo hunting and living in teepees--which were key elements of their culture--how many would want to? Probably none.
Yes, yes, I know. They lost the war. They did not loose the right to the practice of their heritage though. And that is really what the whites want to take away from the natives.
Yeah, they kind of did. Their heritage--at least for the Plains tribes--was a nomadic lifestyle hunting buffalo from Southern Canada to Kansas and from Iowa to Eastern Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana. That is no longer possible.
No one (at least currently) is trying to take away their language or outlaw pow-wows which they still hold--but neither is it anyone else's responsibility to preserve it.

Ted Turner is sure doing his part to buy up land and repopulate the plains with buffalo though. I've seen tribal members drooling at the thought of returning to hunting and gathering again.

Remember the article from about 10 years ago to de-populate the plains? IMHO, it is happening already. So, the tribes just might get their way of life back.

Boy, that would pi$$ off a lot of whites.

weltschmerz · Guru

The First Nations people here are a force to be reckoned with. They're not all drunks and dropouts.
Many of their languages are going extinct, sacred lands and burial sites being plowed over for highways and golf courses. etc.
I don't think they should assimilate. Unless they want to,of course. And they don't want to.
I would like to see our money better spent, with more emphasis on health and education. Better living conditions. More employment.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 23rd of January 2016 03:59:25 PM

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The reservation system was foolish from the beginning, and it's even more so, now.

It's not like the natives would even WANT to have a bunch of open range where they are living in teepees and hunting buffalo if that were even possible, anymore.

The whole system perpetuates poverty and alcoholism.
I agree, but how are you going to preserve their culture and integrate them into the white way of life?
It's not our problem to preserve their culture.
Germans, Irish, Poles, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Japanese, Jews, even Blacks and Hispanics have integrated to a great degree and still kept elements of their culture.
It's not up to the government or society at large to help any group preserve their culture. That is up to them.
Again, even if it were possible to return to the days of Buffalo hunting and living in teepees--which were key elements of their culture--how many would want to? Probably none.
Yes, yes, I know. They lost the war. They did not loose the right to the practice of their heritage though. And that is really what the whites want to take away from the natives.
Yeah, they kind of did. Their heritage--at least for the Plains tribes--was a nomadic lifestyle hunting buffalo from Southern Canada to Kansas and from Iowa to Eastern Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana. That is no longer possible.
No one (at least currently) is trying to take away their language or outlaw pow-wows which they still hold--but neither is it anyone else's responsibility to preserve it.
Ted Turner is sure doing his part to buy up land and repopulate the plains with buffalo though. I've seen tribal members drooling at the thought of returning to hunting and gathering again.
Remember the article from about 10 years ago to de-populate the plains? IMHO, it is happening already. So, the tribes just might get their way of life back.
Boy, that would pi$$ off a lot of whites.

???? Ted Turner isn't "repopulating" the buffalo. He's raising them commercially for a profit. He's not donating that land to the tribes for them to hunt.

Yeah, areas of the plains have lost population--but are you willing to move somewhere else? Give up your land? I doubt you are any more willing now than they were once upon a time.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
The First Nations people here are a force to be reckoned with. They're not all drunks and dropouts.
Many of their languages are going extinct, sacred lands and burial sites being plowed over for highways and golf courses. etc.
I don't think they should assimilate. Unless they want to,of course. And they don't want to.
I would like to see our money better spent, with more emphasis on health and education. Better living conditions. More employment.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 23rd of January 2016 03:59:25 PM

That certainly contradicts your earlier posts--plus, the ones who are the "drunks and dropouts" are the ones making 1.6 million.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
The First Nations people here are a force to be reckoned with. They're not all drunks and dropouts.
Many of their languages are going extinct, sacred lands and burial sites being plowed over for highways and golf courses. etc.
I don't think they should assimilate. Unless they want to,of course. And they don't want to.
I would like to see our money better spent, with more emphasis on health and education. Better living conditions. More employment.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 23rd of January 2016 03:59:25 PM
That certainly contradicts your earlier posts--plus, the ones who are the "drunks and dropouts" are the ones making 1.6 million.

Ummm, no. I didn't say they were ALL like that. The tribal chiefs get money for the band, and keep it instead of spending on their people.

There's a lot of hopelessness in these communities. Surely there's a way to fix it without giving one guy all the money, and without forced assimilation. Jobs and eduacation would be a good start.

I know quite a few First Nations folks. They're pretty intense. I like them.