I don't want to, but my brother plopped his wedding date during the time we were supposed to go to Europe--after I told mom and his fiancé the dates we were planning on being gone.
That irks me, and I told mom it was unfair to expect us to change when we've been planning this for two years, and theyve been panning a wedding for two weeks, after only dating since November. I also said that if it was important for us to be there they'd have picked a different date.
on the other hand, we were supposed to go to Europe with some friends, and they can't take even the smallest baby steps to prepare for the trip such as getting their passports. Consequently, we haven't actually bought tickets or anything, so that doesn't give me much of an argument to use with mom about our trip.
i dont want to bail on our friends, but I also don't want to plan to skip the wedding and then those guys cant get their crap together and end up not going, anyway.
i love my family, and these friends--but they all SUCK at plaNing **** and following through.
I don't know why I'm even surprised.
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If it were me I'd go the wedding and tell your friends that the wedding popped up and since they haven't planned anything everyone will have to pick a different date for Europe.
Wow! Is this your brother's first marriage? When are you going to Europe? Can I come???
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Yeah. his first.
We we were planning on August. The thing is, the dates don't matter nearly as much to us as our friends. We could go in September.
Im irritated they can't get their poop in a group. We had to take them to get passport photos, but so far, they cant be bothered to fill out the application or go to the courthouse.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
If it were me I'd go the wedding and tell your friends that the wedding popped up and since they haven't planned anything everyone will have to pick a different date for Europe.
That may be the answer--but I'd really like to travel with friends if we can.
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Husker, your friends sound like they might annoy you all across Europe with their procrastination-tendencies. Are you sure they're the ones you and your wife want to take such a big trip with?
Husker, your friends sound like they might annoy you all across Europe with their procrastination-tendencies. Are you sure they're the ones you and your wife want to take such a big trip with?
But once they are over there, they'll have to keep up. My buddy won't let them piddle around like they do here. He'll have a tight schedule. It's just that he lives in another town, so he doesn't have to put up with it as much.
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I'm with Bonnye. If no firm trip plans have been made, and your friends are dragging their feet, I'd put my brother's wedding first.
I guess what I'm thinking is giving them until March 1st to have some "skin" in the game, so to speak. Either have airline tickets bought, or deposits down on some VRBO's, etc... So that they have some financial incentive to follow through.
If they can't do SOMETHING by that time, then my guess is they won't go, anyway.
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Why is it ok for you to miss the wedding because you're going on a trip that's not even finalized yet but skipping a wedding because the bride was a beotch to your kid is not ok? You have some strange ideas about family.
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Hope they get their act together. Can you tell them about your concerns?
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Oh believe me, I have. I sent them an email even before the wedding came up telling them they needed to get their sh!t together. One of them replied whining about not having any time (when she has almost nothing to do outside of work). The others didn't even reply.
my wife and I bring it up with them every week.
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Why is it ok for you to miss the wedding because you're going on a trip that's not even finalized yet but skipping a wedding because the bride was a beotch to your kid is not ok? You have some strange ideas about family.
Where did I say anything about skipping a wedding being "ok"?
You must need reading glasses, or fewer delusions.
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You kept telling us how it would be our fault for tearing the family apart for not going to a beotches wedding yet you'll skip out on your brothers wedding for a trip that hasn't even been finalized and I'm the one delusions. You are hilarious.
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Personally, I didn't clear my wedding date with my brother. I sent him the date and expected him to come, hell or high water. And he did. So you told your family you were going to Europe in August. Was he to assume you would be gone the entire month? One week? Two? Perhaps August was the only time they could get the location/minister, etc. Or due to their jobs or school?
Personally, I didn't clear my wedding date with my brother. I sent him the date and expected him to come, hell or high water. And he did. So you told your family you were going to Europe in August. Was he to assume you would be gone the entire month? One week? Two? Perhaps August was the only time they could get the location/minister, etc. Or due to their jobs or school?
I told him the dates we would be gone. There were two weekends still open that month. She has no job (whole nuther issue), and he farms, so he can be pretty flexible.
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No reservations have been made? No tickets bought? No time off slips submitted?
Sooo, just change the date you go to Europe.
Call your buddy that is making the itinerary, and explain the situation. Either you guys can still go together on a different date, or you and your wife go before or after and just overlap one end, or you take entirely different times.
Either way, not the end of the world.
Husker, your friends sound like they might annoy you all across Europe with their procrastination-tendencies. Are you sure they're the ones you and your wife want to take such a big trip with?
But once they are over there, they'll have to keep up. My buddy won't let them piddle around like they do here. He'll have a tight schedule. It's just that he lives in another town, so he doesn't have to put up with it as much.
Plus your more recent description of these same friends is very sweet - good people do procrastinate, too.
I vote for definitely trying to attend brother's wedding as an important life event, regardless of the seemingly haphazard planning on their part.
I'm concerned with the "only since November"... did I read that right?
No reservations have been made? No tickets bought? No time off slips submitted?
Sooo, just change the date you go to Europe.
Call your buddy that is making the itinerary, and explain the situation. Either you guys can still go together on a different date, or you and your wife go before or after and just overlap one end, or you take entirely different times. Either way, not the end of the world.
We can change--our friends can't.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Husker, your friends sound like they might annoy you all across Europe with their procrastination-tendencies. Are you sure they're the ones you and your wife want to take such a big trip with?
But once they are over there, they'll have to keep up. My buddy won't let them piddle around like they do here. He'll have a tight schedule. It's just that he lives in another town, so he doesn't have to put up with it as much.
Plus your more recent description of these same friends is very sweet - good people do procrastinate, too.
I vote for definitely trying to attend brother's wedding as an important life event, regardless of the seemingly haphazard planning on their part.
I'm concerned with the "only since November"... did I read that right?
Yeah, just since November. im not sure shes even seen grumpy brother make an appearance.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
No reservations have been made? No tickets bought? No time off slips submitted?
Sooo, just change the date you go to Europe.
Call your buddy that is making the itinerary, and explain the situation. Either you guys can still go together on a different date, or you and your wife go before or after and just overlap one end, or you take entirely different times. Either way, not the end of the world.
We can change--our friends can't.
Then you won't get to go together. Unfortunate, but Europe will still be loads of fun.
I think so, but in all honesty, we don't know her well since the relationship has been so short. We knew her before they started dating, but didn't really have any interactions.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
No reservations have been made? No tickets bought? No time off slips submitted?
Sooo, just change the date you go to Europe.
Call your buddy that is making the itinerary, and explain the situation. Either you guys can still go together on a different date, or you and your wife go before or after and just overlap one end, or you take entirely different times. Either way, not the end of the world.
We can change--our friends can't.
Then you won't get to go together. Unfortunate, but Europe will still be loads of fun.
And that's probably the answer--but im still going to be mad and pout.
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Interesting. You'd skip a family wedding for a trip with friends that you haven't even bought tickets for but not for the bride treating your child badly? Nice priorities you have there.
Since family is soooooo important to you - this should be a no brainer. Go to the wedding.
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I don't know, I think it's kind of crappy of him to pick a date during your vacation, since it sounds like he definitely knew the dates ahead of time. Unless there is a reason to have that specific date why can't they pick another time?
I know it's kind of a fine line, but if it were my sister and I knew of an important event coming up in her life (like a trip to Europe) I would make sure the dates worked for her. You can't do that for everyone, but your immediate family and dates that you know about and are in your control to move around, I would do it.
On the other hand, if they have a reason for that date (like it was her grandparents anniversary or something) then I understand them planning it anyway. But they would have to be ok with knowing you might not make it then.
About the same as mine. Shes frustrated they picked a date knowing we were planning on being gone--but she's also fearful that if we plan for Europe, our friends will not get their act together and end up not going.
i could actually see them buying airline tickets, and then having to get their passport applications expedited because it's July and they haven't done sh!t.
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Sounds like both events have the possibility of falling through. I think I would tell the friends the situation and let them know you'll meet up with them after the wedding. There will be festivities leading up to the big event that you'll want to be around for, too, like the bachelor party, shower (for the Mrs.), rehearsal dinner, etc.
No reservations have been made? No tickets bought? No time off slips submitted?
Sooo, just change the date you go to Europe.
Call your buddy that is making the itinerary, and explain the situation. Either you guys can still go together on a different date, or you and your wife go before or after and just overlap one end, or you take entirely different times. Either way, not the end of the world.
We can change--our friends can't.
Then you won't get to go together. Unfortunate, but Europe will still be loads of fun.
And that's probably the answer--but im still going to be mad and pout.
Sounds like both events have the possibility of falling through. I think I would tell the friends the situation and let them know you'll meet up with them after the wedding. There will be festivities leading up to the big event that you'll want to be around for, too, like the bachelor party, shower (for the Mrs.), rehearsal dinner, etc.
They will be home by the time we could leave.
Theres es just no compromise here, really. it's an either/or
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
No reservations have been made? No tickets bought? No time off slips submitted?
Sooo, just change the date you go to Europe.
Call your buddy that is making the itinerary, and explain the situation. Either you guys can still go together on a different date, or you and your wife go before or after and just overlap one end, or you take entirely different times. Either way, not the end of the world.
We can change--our friends can't.
Then you won't get to go together. Unfortunate, but Europe will still be loads of fun.
And that's probably the answer--but im still going to be mad and pout.
And he admits to pouting, LOL!
Real men DO pout, but they rarely admit it.
I can pout and sulk like none other.
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