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Did Phil's Mechanic Break the Tire Sensor?

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Dear Car Talk:

My 2007 Toyota Sienna has a Tire Pressure Monitoring System. It recently alerted me to a leaking tire, and I found the nail in the tire and took it to be fixed. The mechanic removed the tire, because he claimed it was better to seal the leak from the inside instead of just plugging the tire from the outside. While doing this, he noticed that the tire-pressure sensor casing was cracked, and he wanted to replace the entire sensor.

I told him not to do it, simply because I knew the sensor was working fine since it was the sensor that had alerted me to the leaking tire recently. Two days after the repair, the tire-pressure monitor light is blinking, indicating a malfunction in the system. This is too much of a coincidence, to me. Are the sensors that delicate, or are the mechanics that clumsy?

-- Phil

Well, first of all, your mechanic was right about sealing the tire from the inside. That's absolutely the right way to patch a tire.

Was he clumsy? It's possible. If he was really careless, and put the tire on the tire machine incorrectly, that could have broken the pressure sensor. But it's not very likely.

Was he dishonest? Did he whack the sensor by accident, and then shrug and tell you that you had a pre-existing crack? Again, it's possible. But at this point, how are you ever going to prove it? And it's just as likely that he was telling you the truth.

I think your mistake, Phil, was not agreeing to replace the sensor once you knew there was a crack in it. Now, instead of being out $75 for the sensor, you're out that much plus the cost of removing, remounting and rebalancing that same tire.

My brother used to say, "It's the stingy man who spends the most," Phil. I think he was absolutely right about that. Of course, he also used to say, "This is definitely my last marriage."

But here's a bigger issue to consider: If you trust this mechanic so little that you told him to leave a broken part inside your tire for fear of being ripped off, it's time to find a mechanic you really do trust. Get a recommendation from friends or family. Or check out www.mechanicsfiles.com for recommendations from our readers and listeners.

File this one under "lessons learned." And congratulations on your upcoming new pressure sensor and unnecessarily remounted and balanced tire, Phil.
 
 
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  • Even if the sensor was in 100% working order at that point, anyone with a reasonable level of intelligence would have it replaced on a 9-year-old car as a precautionary measure. The batteries in those sensors don't last forever.

    As another poster said, I pity the next mechanic that this guy ends up going to.

  • I have never had a patch fail using the reamer and plug for outside repairs, and I'll bet I've done it a half dozen times over the years. I am perfectly willing to believe an internal repair is better, but I also believe it doesn't matter if it's better if it lasts the life of the tire.

    On the other hand, I have never successfully patched a bike inner tube.

    • it's a liability issue. shop insurance doesn't cover plugs because there's a chance of them failing, which would cause the tire to go down, which would cause the vehicle to veer into a busload of nuns, which would send them careening down a cliff to a fiery death. who wants to risk that?

      i plug my own too, but rest assured if i had a tire machine at the house i would much prefer to patch them...

    • My experience, it depends how much tread you're working with. Plug a tire with lots of tread, it probably will hold. Plug a tire that's down to the last of its tread and I've seen them pop out. But why take a chance on any tire if you're talking about an extra 20 bucks? If you wind up with a flat on the side of the road at night, in bad weather, in a bad neighborhood, what's that 20 bucks worth?

  • I totally agree with the advice given: If you don't trust your mechanic, find one that you do trust.
    it baffles me why people continue to go for the cheaper route rather than building a relationship with a mechanic that you can lean on for the entire life of your vehicle. Cars don't last forever, but they will last longer if taken care of.

  • This sounds more like user error than the car or mechanic's fault. There are people who will patch things together in the name of saving money. In my working on computers I typically see the stingy people spending more money on repairs and replacement units.

    • And I'd like to add that I pity the next mechanic who takes this guy on as a customer.

      • So true!

        It's not that surprising that a 9 year old tire sensor might get cracked. Even if it happened during the tire dismounting & remounting process, it's still a 9 year old sensor living in a hostile environment that has gone many thousands of miles. It would be interesting to see the condition of the Sienna's rims; are they a bit banged up after all that time on the road? Perhaps road-rash and potholes beat up the sensor.

        Thanking the mechanic for noticing that the sensor was cracked and telling the customer about would have been the way to go. After all, the mechanic tried to do the very best job possible (patch) instead of a quickie plug.... no good deed goes unpunished.

         



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