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What Really Happens When You Put Diesel in a Gas Car?

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Dear Car Talk:

Will a car be damaged if a person mistakenly puts diesel into a gasoline car's gas tank? And also, what happens if you put regular gas into a diesel vehicle? How often does this happen? It happened to us recently. Thank you.

-- Carolina

Well, it's not something we see every day, Carolina. First of all, diesel pumps are labeled "Diesel," and they're usually a different color -- most often green. So most people notice that something's different before they make that mistake.

I'm not making you feel better yet, am I, Carolina?

Actually, despite the markings, it happens surprisingly often, so don't feel too bad. I guess people are just busy and distracted these days, trying to refuel the car while responding to text messages and stopping the Cheerios fight the kids are having in the back seat.

When diesel fuel does end up in a gasoline tank, the car will run for a few miles or so, until all the gasoline that's still in the fuel line gets used up. At that point, the engine will shut down -- boom.

Gasoline engines cannot combust diesel fuel, so the car would stop running.

Once that happens, it has to be towed to a shop, and the fuel system needs to be drained. We start by emptying the gas tank. Then -- assuming the car has been driven since the errant refueling -- we get all of the diesel fuel out of the fuel lines, the fuel rail and the injectors.

We'll usually remove the injectors and run them outside of the car so they just squirt out a bunch of the diesel fuel. Sometimes that doesn't work, and we have to take things apart, and, well, it can be a real mess. But it's doable. And normally, no permanent damage is done to the injectors, the seals or anything else. And because the car won't actually run on diesel fuel, there's little risk of damaging the catalytic converter.

But it's a costly and time-consuming process, as I'm sure you now know, Carolina! Depending on the car, it can cost $500 to $1,000.

Accidentally putting gasoline in your diesel tank can be even more harmful, depending on how much gasoline you've added. I mean, if you had an empty 20-gallon tank, and you caught your mistake when you'd put in only a gallon, you might be all right if you filled the rest of the tank with diesel. But if it's more than that, you could create serious problems.

Aside from being the fuel, diesel also is a lubricant. So running a diesel engine on gasoline starves the fuel-injector pump of lubrication.

And because of their different combustion properties, the gasoline detonates too early in a high-compression diesel engine and causes all kinds of damaging knocking and misfiring. So not only would you have to drain the tank, in that case, but you might need to replace other parts as well.

So I think we need to launch a new public-service campaign to reduce distractions while refueling, Carolina: "Don't Text and Pump." Want to be the poster girl?

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  • I will never understand how BP can be this stupid, but just because green is their corporate color, their pump nozzles are also green. So just when you think diesel is color-coded green to keep people safe, there's BP with a green gasoline nozzle.


    Look out for overseas. I came within a fraction of putting diesel into my rental car in Spain. The warnings are different and, duh, in Spanish.

  • why don't they make the diesel nozzles square & the fill hole square? that would prevent mishaps...

  • I used to work on offshore sport fishing boats when I was in high school. I think 99.9% of the boats I was around had diesel engines. One day the boats were at the fuel dock filling up with diesel. A boat pulled in next to our boat as I was finishing fueling. The deckhand on that boat asked for the nozzle after I was done. I didn't pay attention to the boat when it docked so I handed it over.
    Turns out the other boat had gasoline engines. The deckhand put 200 plus gallons of diesel in its gasoline tanks. Fortunately the captain was smart and had shut the engines off before fueling (you never run a gas engine while fueling a boat because of the fumes and potential for sparks from the gas engine ignition). We always left the diesel engines running while fueling. Unfortunately the captain didn't notice the deckhand was putting diesel in the tanks until he was finished. They had to call someone to come pump their tanks. I'm guessing the deckhand lost his job.

  • Aren't the nozzle sizes different?

 

 

 



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Ed!!!
I know it's off topic, but two questions.
How are you feeling?
What did you end up eating at the African place and did you enjoy it?

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One summer during college I had a job with a major oil company, driving around in a company Plymouth Fury, which took regular gas.

I went into a company-owned station to fill up, and was told all they had was premium. Okay, I said, I'll go to another station.

Don't bother,  I was told, none of them had any regular gas. cry

 

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Ed, that same thing happened at a gas station in my area that I frequent.  Luckily I didn't get gas that day, but plenty of other folks did before the problem was discovered...


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weltschmerz wrote:

Ed!!!
I know it's off topic, but two questions.
How are you feeling?
What did you end up eating at the African place and did you enjoy it?

 


How can it be off topic when it's all about ME? wink

YES !!!

It was wonderful !

I had the Garam Marsala Sea Scallops, which were perfect, after the boar as an appetizer. My manager ordered boar and 3 other things  as appetizers for the 11 of us. (Yes, the boar also was perfect!)

With drinks (I think my water was free) the total bill came to about $1,300 (tip included). Everyone had a great time, and at the end ..

my coworkers surprised me with a Happy Birthday, which included a plate with a birthday candle to blow out ( they sang, which was not bad ) and a small bowl (about an ounce) of frozen double-chocolate pudding with whipped cream and a cherry on top.

 

Everyone loved the food, and I think everyone took the suggestions I'd passed along from my T-G friends.

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How am I feeling? As long as I take my Robitussin and Sudafed on schedule, I'm breathing okay. I will probably go to the doctor again either tomorrow or Monday. (More likely tomorrow, he has hours.)

 

 

 



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It sounds like it was wonderful. I'm glad I recommended the scallops.

Happy Birthday, mon ami!

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weltschmerz wrote:

It sounds like it was wonderful. I'm glad I recommended the scallops.

Happy Birthday, mon ami!


YES< ME TOO !!! 

 

and Thank You !

My real birthday is this coming Friday. (Hint, I'm not expecting gifts, but hugs are ALWAYS appreciated, even if I do return them smile )



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It's way better than the other way around.

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