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Con Man Accused of Guaranteeing Own Damnation by Selling Fake Trips to See the Pope

By Ben Mathis-Lilley
 
490036486Pope Francis in New York City's Central Park on Sept. 25, 2015.

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When Pope Francis visited the United States last year, some people were excited and some people were disappointed. And some people, such as an (alleged) Los Angeles con man named Erwin Mena, (allegedly) saw a great opportunity to get their swindle on:

LAPD Det. Gary Guevara alleged in court documents that Mena sold parishioners bogus trips to see Pope Francis last year in Philadelphia and New York. ... Guevara said Mena solicited between $500 and $1,000 from people to go see the pope back east. The money was supposed to cover airfare and lodging in convents, he said, adding that more than two dozen people signed up.
 

That's from the Los Angeles Times. "Lodging in convents."

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In Los Angeles, the archdiocese keeps a list of unauthorized priests and deacons, which numbered more than 95 people as of Sept. 1. 

That's a lot of fake priests! They should all have a club. In jail.



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That is a really bad title.

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I don't get it.

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So... I am a little lost, too....

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Kind of makes me wish I'd changed the headline



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Kind of makes me wish I'd changed the headline

 I'm really not sure that would have helped.  There's just really nothing there.



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"In Los Angeles, the archdiocese keeps a list of unauthorized priests and deacons, which numbered more than 95 people"

 

Aren't the fakes breaking the law?

Why just keep a list? Why not prosecute?

 

 

 



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"In Los Angeles, the archdiocese keeps a list of unauthorized priests and deacons, which numbered more than 95 people"

 

Aren't the fakes breaking the law?

Why just keep a list? Why not prosecute?

 

 

 

Please find me the law that says it is illegal to impersonate a deacon.  Or a priest, for that matter. 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

 

"In Los Angeles, the archdiocese keeps a list of unauthorized priests and deacons, which numbered more than 95 people"

 

Aren't the fakes breaking the law?

Why just keep a list? Why not prosecute?

 

 

 

Please find me the law that says it is illegal to impersonate a deacon.  Or a priest, for that matter. 

 What about a doctor? Airline pilot? Policeman?

No, I never saw "Catch Me If You Can," or read the book.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

 

"In Los Angeles, the archdiocese keeps a list of unauthorized priests and deacons, which numbered more than 95 people"

 

Aren't the fakes breaking the law?

Why just keep a list? Why not prosecute?

 

 

 

Please find me the law that says it is illegal to impersonate a deacon.  Or a priest, for that matter. 

 What about a doctor? Airline pilot? Policeman?

No, I never saw "Catch Me If You Can," or read the book.

flan

It is against the law to impersonate a LICENSED individual or a law enforcement officer. 



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Maybe instead of KEEPING a list, they should PUBLISH the list.

 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

 

"In Los Angeles, the archdiocese keeps a list of unauthorized priests and deacons, which numbered more than 95 people"

 

Aren't the fakes breaking the law?

Why just keep a list? Why not prosecute?

 

 

 

Please find me the law that says it is illegal to impersonate a deacon.  Or a priest, for that matter. 

 Because anyone can start a religion and ordain people.  You can't make it illegal to have a title like pastor.



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Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

 

"In Los Angeles, the archdiocese keeps a list of unauthorized priests and deacons, which numbered more than 95 people"

 

Aren't the fakes breaking the law?

Why just keep a list? Why not prosecute?

 

 

 

Please find me the law that says it is illegal to impersonate a deacon.  Or a priest, for that matter. 

 Because anyone can start a religion and ordain people.  You can't make it illegal to have a title like pastor.

And "unauthorized" doesn't mean not ordained.  They may not be ROMAN CATHOLICS. 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

 

"In Los Angeles, the archdiocese keeps a list of unauthorized priests and deacons, which numbered more than 95 people"

 

Aren't the fakes breaking the law?

Why just keep a list? Why not prosecute?

 

 

 

Please find me the law that says it is illegal to impersonate a deacon.  Or a priest, for that matter. 

 Because anyone can start a religion and ordain people.  You can't make it illegal to have a title like pastor.

And "unauthorized" doesn't mean not ordained.  They may not be ROMAN CATHOLICS. 

 I'm still surprised that people would go to a church with out checking out the credentials of the pastor or priest or whomever.  



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