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Toddler, three, fatally shoots his nine-year-old sister with a pistol he found on his great-grandparents' nightstand

  • Toddler and Kimberly Reylander, nine, were at their great-grandparents' house in Irondale, Alabama outside Birmingham
  • A relative who was not in the house at the time left the gun on a nightstand without realizing kids would be in the house
  • Adults did not realize the gun was in the room where the kids were playing
  • Kimberly was shot in the head and died at Children's of Alabama hospital

By JESSICA CHIA FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 10:00 EST, 8 February 2016 | UPDATED: 11:42 EST, 8 February 2016

 

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A three-year-old toddler picked up a loaded pistol at his great-grandparents' house and accidentally shot and killed his nine-year-old sister, police said.

Third-grader Kimberly Reylander suffered a gunshot wound to the head and was flown by a medical helicopter from the home in Irondale, Alabama to Children's of Alabama hospital, where she died.

A relative who was not home at the time had left the loaded gun on the nightstand, not realizing the children would be in the house that day, police chief Ken Atkinson said. 

The other adults in the house were unaware the gun was in the room where Kimberly and her brother were playing. 

Kimberly Reylander, 9, was remembered as smart, sweet, artistic and beautiful by her relatives
 
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She died on Saturday after her three-year-old brother accidentally shot her with a pistol left on their great-grandparents' nightstand in Irondale, Alabama
 
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Kimberly Reylander, nine, was remembered as smart, sweet, artistic and beautiful by her relatives. Her obituary reads: 'Kimi was her Mommy and Daddy's little angel. She was a gifted singer and artist.'

Kimberly (left) died on Saturday after her three-year-old brother accidentally shot her with a pistol left on their great-grandparents' nightstand in Irondale, Alabama
 
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Kimberly (left) died on Saturday after her three-year-old brother accidentally shot her with a pistol left on their great-grandparents' nightstand in Irondale, Alabama

Kimberly's great-grandfather, Joel Watson said he and the other adults rushed into the room once they heard the gunshot. 

He told WIAT: 'Her grandma was laying the towel on her head and laid down there and started praying, she was praying, I was praying, my wife was screaming and praying.

'Nobody knows how that feels until you experience it.' 

Irondale police chief Ken Atkinson called it 'a tragic accident', but an investigation is still underway
 
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Irondale police chief Ken Atkinson called it 'a tragic accident', but an investigation is still underway

The incident occurred on Saturday afternoon, when Kimberly was sitting on the floor of the bedroom in the 2000 block of Monroe Drive, about 14 miles outside of Birmingham.

Kimberly and her brother lived nearby with their mother.

Atkinson called it 'a tragic accident', but an investigation is still underway.

Her maternal grandfather Rodney Watson told WBRC: 'She was a beautiful child, straight A student, she loved God, she loved singing at church, she was just a precious angel.'

He added: 'You know, I've always had this thought that this could only happen to someone else, you know you only hear about these things, but when it hits home it's hard.'

Other relatives remembered the young girl as smart, sweet and artistic. Her obituary reads: 'Kimi was her Mommy and Daddy's little angel. She was a gifted singer and artist.'

On Sunday, mother Amanda Reylander posted a photograph of Kimberly on Facebook, writing: 'Mommy loves you baby girl...I'm so sorry....'

As friends offered their condolences, she later added: 'I don't know what to do with myself.'  

 

 

 

 

Neighbor Chrissy Coblentz said she lived next door from Kimberly's great-grandparents, and the young girl often played with her kids. 

She set up a Gofundme page to pay for the funeral, which will be held on February 10. 

Irondale police said there were no charges filed at this time. 

According to the Washington Post, Kimberly is the fifth casualty in an accidental shooting by a toddler in 2016. 

Her mother, Amanda Reylander (pictured left with Kimberly) posted a photograph of her daughter, writing: ''Mommy loves you baby girl...I'm so sorry....'

Her mother, Amanda Reylander (pictured left with Kimberly) posted a photograph of her daughter, writing: ''Mommy loves you baby girl...I'm so sorry....'



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And yet, the grand parents did not own the gun, did not know it was there, but the headline screams "it's the grandparents fault!"

So sad for the family, but accidents do happen.

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Who the hell leaves a gun in someone else's house without telling them. It's not the grandparent's fault it's the idiot who left a gun sitting around & left.

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Who the hell leaves a gun in someone else's house without telling them. It's not the grandparent's fault it's the idiot who left a gun sitting around & left.

 Exactly. Can you imagine growing up & knowing that you killed your sister?

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According to the Washington Post, Kimberly is the fifth casualty in an accidental shooting by a toddler in 2016.

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Who the hell leaves a gun in someone else's house without telling them. It's not the grandparent's fault it's the idiot who left a gun sitting around & left.

 Exactly. Can you imagine growing up & knowing that you killed your sister?

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According to the Washington Post, Kimberly is the fifth casualty in an accidental shooting by a toddler in 2016.

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In Birmingham or nation wide?

Accidents happen. 



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Who the hell leaves a gun in someone else's house without telling them. It's not the grandparent's fault it's the idiot who left a gun sitting around & left.

 Exactly. Can you imagine growing up & knowing that you killed your sister?

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According to the Washington Post, Kimberly is the fifth casualty in an accidental shooting by a toddler in 2016.

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weltschmerz wrote:
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Who the hell leaves a gun in someone else's house without telling them. It's not the grandparent's fault it's the idiot who left a gun sitting around & left.

 Exactly. Can you imagine growing up & knowing that you killed your sister?

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According to the Washington Post, Kimberly is the fifth casualty in an accidental shooting by a toddler in 2016.

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So much for "responsible gun owners." 

Five owners out of what, 10,000,000? 



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weltschmerz wrote:
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Who the hell leaves a gun in someone else's house without telling them. It's not the grandparent's fault it's the idiot who left a gun sitting around & left.

 Exactly. Can you imagine growing up & knowing that you killed your sister?

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According to the Washington Post, Kimberly is the fifth casualty in an accidental shooting by a toddler in 2016.

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So much for "responsible gun owners." 

 That's five in a month and a half.  On pace for 40 for the year.  Out of more than 300 MILLION guns.   

 

Statistically, that means 100% of all gun owners are responsible since the percent chance that any one gun will result in something like this is beyond statistically insignificant.

 



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Tell that to the parents of the five dead people.

This kind of accident is 100% PREVENTABLE.

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flan327 wrote:

Tell that to the parents of the five dead people.

This kind of accident is 100% PREVENTABLE.

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 How is that?



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Tell that to the parents of the five dead people.

This kind of accident is 100% PREVENTABLE.

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 How is that?

 Oh, gee, I'm so stupid I'm sure I don't know...

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Tell that to the parents of the five dead people.

This kind of accident is 100% PREVENTABLE.

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 How is that?

 Don't leave a loaded gun laying around for a toddler to pick up perhaps?????



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He had no idea that there would be toddlers in the house, much less in his bedroom...

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He had no idea that there would be toddlers in the house, much less in his bedroom...

 Doesn't matter. Don't leave loaded guns unattended. 



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He had no idea that there would be toddlers in the house, much less in his bedroom...

 Doesn't matter. Don't leave loaded guns unattended. 

 Really? Almost all of our guns are loaded. I have a loaded shotgun beside my bed and a loaded Taurus on my nightstand. They are locked up if the kids are here, but they stay loaded...im not going load and unload all of my guns every time i leave the house and come back...



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Then lock it. That is the rule in our house. Take the clip out and VISUALLY check the chamber, or lock it up. There is no third option.

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These kids could have been drinking bleach for as much as the parents were watching them. Seriously, how about you watch your kids?!?! Not saying you have to sit over them, but when you are visiting at grandmas' house, there are probably a lot of things you shouldn't get into in another room unsupervised.

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These kids could have been drinking bleach for as much as the parents were watching them. Seriously, how about you watch your kids?!?! Not saying you have to sit over them, but when you are visiting at grandmas' house, there are probably a lot of things you shouldn't get into in another room unsupervised.

 100% agree. My house isnt totally childproof. They are always in my site...



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I never left my boys out of my sight. DH & I would take turns, too. If I had to run upstairs, they came with me. They followed me around at that age anyway, so I didn't have to tell them. And my house was childproofed, to some extent.

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These kids could have been drinking bleach for as much as the parents were watching them. Seriously, how about you watch your kids?!?! Not saying you have to sit over them, but when you are visiting at grandmas' house, there are probably a lot of things you shouldn't get into in another room unsupervised.

 100% agree. My house isnt totally childproof. They are always in my site...

 I agree with this.  The kids should not have been in someone else's room. However, the girl was 9, quite old enough to be watching a 3 YO when other adults are around.  I have to wonder what she was doing to not notice the 3YO found the gun and picked it up.



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At my grandparents houses, the ONLY place we got in trouble for being in was the chicken coop.

We were allowed any and everywhere else.

And there were guns everywhere too.

I remember them in the barn. Each barn. The tool house, down at the river shed, the chicken coop and in most rooms in the house.



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These kids could have been drinking bleach for as much as the parents were watching them. Seriously, how about you watch your kids?!?! Not saying you have to sit over them, but when you are visiting at grandmas' house, there are probably a lot of things you shouldn't get into in another room unsupervised.

 100% agree. My house isnt totally childproof. They are always in my site...

 I agree with this.  The kids should not have been in someone else's room. However, the girl was 9, quite old enough to be watching a 3 YO when other adults are around.  I have to wonder what she was doing to not notice the 3YO found the gun and picked it up.

 They probably play in that room a lot.

And she was probably messing with a phone or ipad.

 



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So its the 9 yr old's fault?

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How about not leave loaded guns lying around in a house where you know kids play? So what he didn't know the kids were going to be there? You think that is a comfort to him now?
HIS carelessness led to the death of a beautiful little girl.
And he gets to live with that.
Lock the gun up, or unload it. Do not leave it loaded on a bedside table when you leave the house. This is so, so simple.

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I bet the 9 year old was running toward her brother to take the gun away from him and it discharged. No, that is not her fault.

It was a tragic accident.

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So much for "responsible gun owners."
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That's only because this tragedy is "newsworthy" (sad things, evil things, and traumatic things make for great "press")

Now count the articles that WEREN'T written where no one was hurt by a gun stored responsibly, or where the kids were properly trained in the safety aspects of them. That number of articles would utterly drown this sad, traumatic, but "newsworthy" story in a matter of seconds by sheer volume.

"Responsible" gun owners make up probably 99.99999999% of all legal gun owners. But let a story like this get out and all of a sudden everyone that owns a gun is a deranged psycho-killer handing them to kids like a lollipop. That's the insanity of the issue.

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These kids could have been drinking bleach for as much as the parents were watching them. Seriously, how about you watch your kids?!?! Not saying you have to sit over them, but when you are visiting at grandmas' house, there are probably a lot of things you shouldn't get into in another room unsupervised.
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Yes, it's tragic a child is dead. It's even more tragic that a younger sibling caused the death. But the issue isn't that a gun did it. The issue is the kids weren't supervised properly. I can think of probably a dozen ways in my house alone, that a curious 3 year old could kill a sibling or young friend just "goofing around" as young kids are wont to do - none of which involve a gun at all.

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So much for "responsible gun owners."
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That's only because this tragedy is "newsworthy" (sad things, evil things, and traumatic things make for great "press")

Now count the articles that WEREN'T written where no one was hurt by a gun stored responsibly, or where the kids were properly trained in the safety aspects of them. That number of articles would utterly drown this sad, traumatic, but "newsworthy" story in a matter of seconds by sheer volume.

"Responsible" gun owners make up probably 99.99999999% of all legal gun owners. But let a story like this get out and all of a sudden everyone that owns a gun is a deranged psycho-killer handing them to kids like a lollipop. That's the insanity of the issue.

I'm willing to bet that every legal gun owner thinks he's a responsible gun owner.

I have guns.. I wouldn't leave a loaded gun at my friends place, because  know her grand children come over from time to time.

That would be EXTREMELY irresponsible.



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I'm not making a point about ones that think they are but aren't. I'm making a point about the ones that think they are and actually are.

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I bet the 9 year old was running toward her brother to take the gun away from him and it discharged. No, that is not her fault.

It was a tragic accident.

 That could have EASILY been prevented...no

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Then lock it. That is the rule in our house. Take the clip out and VISUALLY check the chamber, or lock it up. There is no third option.

 Why is this so hard to understand?

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Then lock it. That is the rule in our house. Take the clip out and VISUALLY check the chamber, or lock it up. There is no third option.

 Why is this so hard to understand?

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 I don't know?  I don't find it all that difficult either.



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Then lock it. That is the rule in our house. Take the clip out and VISUALLY check the chamber, or lock it up. There is no third option.

 Why is this so hard to understand?

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 I don't know?  I don't find it all that difficult either.

 And how long does it take?

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Mellow Momma wrote:

These kids could have been drinking bleach for as much as the parents were watching them. Seriously, how about you watch your kids?!?! Not saying you have to sit over them, but when you are visiting at grandmas' house, there are probably a lot of things you shouldn't get into in another room unsupervised.

 100% agree. My house isnt totally childproof. They are always in my site...

 I agree with this.  The kids should not have been in someone else's room. However, the girl was 9, quite old enough to be watching a 3 YO when other adults are around.  I have to wonder what she was doing to not notice the 3YO found the gun and picked it up.

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I bet the 9 year old was running toward her brother to take the gun away from him and it discharged. No, that is not her fault.

It was a tragic accident.

 That could have EASILY been prevented...no

flan

 Ok - in THIS instance, this is just crazy.  Children don't live there, the man who left the gun didn't know kids would be there.
 The people who took the kids there didn't know there was a gun there.

 

In THIS instance, it is a horrible tragedy, but it is an accident.  Tossing blame around for what people DID NOT KNOW is ridiculous.



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Guns, in ANY house at ANY time, should not be laying around loaded unless locked in a safe.

No children had never been to that house before?

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Whoever laid that gun down is at fault LL. It was the grandparents home and it wasn't their gun but this other adult. So, now i wouldn't just go visit a friend and think "oh i think i will just lay down my loaded SW 642 .38 special on their nightstand. As a gun owner you are RESPONSIBLE for your gun .

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How about not leave loaded guns lying around in a house where you know kids play? So what he didn't know the kids were going to be there? You think that is a comfort to him now?
HIS carelessness led to the death of a beautiful little girl.
And he gets to live with that.
Lock the gun up, or unload it. Do not leave it loaded on a bedside table when you leave the house. This is so, so simple.

 1.  He didn't know kids would be there.

2.  This is only one reason why kids do not belong playing in an adults bedroom. 



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Whoever laid that gun down is at fault LL. It was the grandparents home and it wasn't their gun but this other adult. So, now i wouldn't just go visit a friend and think "oh i think i will just lay down my loaded SW 642 .38 special on their nightstand. As a gun owner you are RESPONSIBLE for your gun .

 Well, when I go visit people, I don't let my kids play in the adults' bedrooms.



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How about not leave loaded guns lying around in a house where you know kids play? So what he didn't know the kids were going to be there? You think that is a comfort to him now?
HIS carelessness led to the death of a beautiful little girl.
And he gets to live with that.
Lock the gun up, or unload it. Do not leave it loaded on a bedside table when you leave the house. This is so, so simple.

 1.  He didn't know kids would be there.

2.  This is only one reason why kids do not belong playing in an adults bedroom. 

 2. What kid does not like to explore, if left unsupervised?

Lock the bedroom door, maybe?

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How about not leave loaded guns lying around in a house where you know kids play? So what he didn't know the kids were going to be there? You think that is a comfort to him now?
HIS carelessness led to the death of a beautiful little girl.
And he gets to live with that.
Lock the gun up, or unload it. Do not leave it loaded on a bedside table when you leave the house. This is so, so simple.

 1.  He didn't know kids would be there.

2.  This is only one reason why kids do not belong playing in an adults bedroom. 

 2. What kid does not like to explore, if left unsupervised?

Lock the bedroom door, maybe?

flan

 Except he didn't know kids would be there.  Although, yes, if he knew kids could be there, that is the best solution. 



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And no, I never let my toddler wander in someone else's house unsupervised.

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And no, I never let my toddler wander in someone else's house unsupervised.

 I get it, but YOU are not every parent/adult.

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And no, I never let my toddler wander in someone else's house unsupervised.

 I get it, but YOU are not every parent/adult.

flan

 No, but the adults in charge not watching that kid have some responsibility, too.   I mean, they knew someone else was staying in that room, and they let kids play in there.



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flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

And no, I never let my toddler wander in someone else's house unsupervised.

 I get it, but YOU are not every parent/adult.

flan

 No, but the adults in charge not watching that kid have some responsibility, too.   I mean, they knew someone else was staying in that room, and they let kids play in there.

 Yes, which is part of my point that they should be held accountable for their negligence.



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Good god, why is the phrase ' don't leave a loaded gun lyinh around ' so controversial??? If it isn't within reach, it has NO business being loaded, unless it is safely contained.

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Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

Good god, why is the phrase ' don't leave a loaded gun lyinh around ' so controversial??? If it isn't within reach, it has NO business being loaded, unless it is safely contained.

 Beats the heck outta me...

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Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

Good god, why is the phrase ' don't leave a loaded gun lyinh around ' so controversial??? If it isn't within reach, it has NO business being loaded, unless it is safely contained.

 Beats the heck outta me...

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 I don't know either.



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Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

Good god, why is the phrase ' don't leave a loaded gun lyinh around ' so controversial??? If it isn't within reach, it has NO business being loaded, unless it is safely contained.

I will put my guns where I want them.  So unless someone comes to my house that's not invited, there's no danger... 



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Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

Good god, why is the phrase ' don't leave a loaded gun lyinh around ' so controversial??? If it isn't within reach, it has NO business being loaded, unless it is safely contained.

I will put my guns where I want them.  So unless someone comes to my house that's not invited, there's no danger... 

 And people like you are EXACTLY why people become antigun.



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