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Are Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts supposed to be Catholic organizations?

 

 

Girl Scouts lost my support when they changed to a cheaper recipe for their cookies (and made them end up tasting like cardboard) but still charged the same per box.

ed11563 wrote:

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Are Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts supposed to be Catholic organizations?

 

 

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 No, but both were founded with faith in God as part of their teachings.  Both the girl scout promise and the boy scout law contain a promise to serve God. 

And the bigger issue is that many churches allow the scouts to use their facilities for free.  I can't blame any church from removing that benefit when the girl scout movement has made it clear that they are no longer adhering to Godly principles. 

They can try to get free facilities elsewhere.

 

 

Of course, when I was a girl scout, they didn't partner up with Planned Parenthood, and they didn't teach us about sex and our right to an abortion.

They had other things to focus on, like building character, teaching leadership, learning about girls around the world, and helping your community and the world.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Of course, when I was a girl scout, they didn't partner up with Planned Parenthood, and they didn't teach us about sex and our right to an abortion.

They had other things to focus on, like building character, teaching leadership, learning about girls around the world, and helping your community and the world.

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 Yep.  Sometimes you can find a troop that ignores the wants of the organization and just focuses on character, new skills, etc.  But they can not escape the constant fundraising.  Very sad.

Ex relationship was a boy scout leader for years. He was offered a job in the administration part of scouts. The pay was about $250,000 a year. It's a business that uses children to make them money.

I was a brownie. For maybe a year. I did more outside activities with my family than the scouts. They really didn't have much to offer or teach me I wasn't already learning at home. DH is an eagle scout. His father was into it. I'm not sure what it taught him unless it was to be a gentleman, which he is.

I started as a Brownie and stayed in it until I was 18. We did tons of fund raisers but we also used most of that money to go do GS related things. I liked it.

flan327 wrote:

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When I attended Catholic grade school, they told us that we COULD NOT join Scouts.

flan

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 Thats interesting.  We went to Scout meetings right after school on Thursdays. Right in the cafeteria.  

Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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When I attended Catholic grade school, they told us that we COULD NOT join Scouts.

flan

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 Thats interesting.  We went to Scout meetings right after school on Thursdays. Right in the cafeteria.  

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 Might have just been our diocese.

flan

The diocese in Indiana where we lived was a HUGE pro-GirlScout diocese. In fact, they were not thrilled about me being a co-leader because I wasn't Catholic. Almost caused a big issue - the Girl Scout office stepped in and told the church to knock it off. 

-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Saturday 27th of February 2016 02:51:45 PM

weltschmerz wrote:

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Scouts Canada membership was down 73%. In order to attract new members, they had to change.
Now we have Sikh chapters, Tamil chapters, Jewish chapters, etc., in 19 different languages, from Tagalog to Estonian to Farsi.

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 I think that's awesome. I hope they do some inter-troop activities in order to expose other girls to different troops and ways. That would be so educational and fun! 

weltschmerz wrote:

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Scouts Canada membership was down 73%. In order to attract new members, they had to change.
Now we have Sikh chapters, Tamil chapters, Jewish chapters, etc., in 19 different languages, from Tagalog to Estonian to Farsi.

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 Ahh, the reason for the name of that cookie!

When asked if you want to buy GS cookies, ask them how many GS did it take to make them.

I don't like them much anymore.

They had a lemon cookie that was good but I don't think they have them now.

Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Scouts Canada membership was down 73%. In order to attract new members, they had to change.
Now we have Sikh chapters, Tamil chapters, Jewish chapters, etc., in 19 different languages, from Tagalog to Estonian to Farsi.

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 Well, that would defeat the purpose of The Girl Scouts here...its pretty much a religious organization. 

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Adapt or die.

It's better than fading into oblivion. 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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When asked if you want to buy GS cookies, ask them how many GS did it take to make them.

I don't like them much anymore.

They had a lemon cookie that was good but I don't think they have them now.

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 I have a box of half eaten lemon cookies.

Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Scouts Canada membership was down 73%. In order to attract new members, they had to change.
Now we have Sikh chapters, Tamil chapters, Jewish chapters, etc., in 19 different languages, from Tagalog to Estonian to Farsi.

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 Well, that would defeat the purpose of The Girl Scouts here...its pretty much a religious organization. 

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Adapt or die.

It's better than fading into oblivion. 

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 So betray your morals for a larger membership? We dont do it that way here...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 27th of February 2016 06:53:12 PM

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Nobody is betraying their morals. It still teaches good values, like helping your fellow man and being a productive member of your community. We have a massive immigrant population here.

Scouts can become inclusive or disappear.

Ohfour wrote:

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The GS oath is loyalty to God. Thats not gonna change to cater to the masses....

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Yes, I know you live in a very insular community. The rest of the world isn't like that. 

Mellow Momma wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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The GS oath is loyalty to God. Thats not gonna change to cater to the masses....

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 It doesn't say a Christian God though. When I see "God" I see it as "whichever God you believe in", not "there is only one true God and I expect that you know which one I'm talking about" 

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 That may be true where you are. However here, almost all GS meetings are in churches and they make it quite clear...

Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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The GS oath is loyalty to God. Thats not gonna change to cater to the masses....

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Yes, I know you live in a very insular community. The rest of the world isn't like that. 

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 This has nothing to do with the "world". We're talking about the U.S.

I dont care what the rest of the world does...

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 Yeah...I am talking about the US too. Our GS troop had meetings in a church but was pretty secular. The church was just the meeting place, not the troop leader! The meaning of God was never spelled out either explicitly or implicitly. It was actually understood that not everyone believed in the same God, so when each girl said God, it was personal to her, and not reflective of anyone else's beliefs but hers.

And yeah, that was in the US. So carry on. 

 

The other troop we were in had nothing ever about religion either. But preferred that you were a member of the church if you were going to be a co-leader. They almost demanded it. But the council told them they couldnt do that and the church backed down. 

The churches don't do anything other than provide a meeting place occasionally. We met at the library, the mall, all kinds of places...

weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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The GS oath is loyalty to God. Thats not gonna change to cater to the masses....

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Yes, I know you live in a very insular community. The rest of the world isn't like that. 

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Over 22% of our citizens are foreign-born. More than one in five.

You can include these kids or not. I guess it's better that the children of immigrants hang out in the street and become gang members. 

weltschmerz wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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The GS oath is loyalty to God. Thats not gonna change to cater to the masses....

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Yes, I know you live in a very insular community. The rest of the world isn't like that. 

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Over 22% of our citizens are foreign-born. More than one in five.

You can include these kids or not. I guess it's better that the children of immigrants hang out in the street and become gang members. 

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 They are most welcome to come to church and join the girl scouts. But they shouldn't expect an organization to cater to their whims...

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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Our Girl Scout troops met mostly in the homes of the girls.

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 We have several troops that meet in our library. Thursday nights are the worst. The leaders always bring sugary snacks & the girls run wild after the meeting. We finally spoke to them about their behavior.

flan