DEAR ABBY: One of my co-workers, "Liz," lost her mother and an aunt to breast cancer. She had genetic testing done and found that she carries the breast cancer genes. As a precaution, she had a double mastectomy and a hysterectomy.
Since her surgery, she has been attending Relay For Life events and has been walking in the "survivor lap." There has been a huge backlash here in the office because people think Liz is misrepresenting herself as a cancer survivor. They are being cruel and calling her a liar, not so much to her face, but all over social media. I wonder if you think it is appropriate for her to call herself a survivor? -- CONFLICTED IN CALIFORNIA
DEAR CONFLICTED: Considering her family history and what genetic testing revealed about her chances of suffering the same fate as her mother and her aunt, what Liz did seems prudent to me. That her co-workers would trash her on social media is appalling. What horrible people they must be. I think the woman has suffered enough to walk a victory lap without being criticized for it -- don't you?
Maybe I'm a horrible person, but I don't think she is a survivor. Would I trash her on social media? No, but I agree she is misrepresenting her situation.
I think the coworkers need to get a life. It isn't a competition over who has had the greater trauma. Yes, she didn't have chemo and radiation but she did have body parts removed and not just skin tags or something like that. Are there degrees of survivors now? Oh, you only had radiation, you didn't have chemo so you don't know what it is REALLY like to survive? I mean, ok, so she's participating for a good cause. What a bunch of bietches.
If Lady Gaga can call herself a survivor of sexual assault because her aunt was assaulted, then this lady certainly has a right to.
After all, she has body parts removed before the cancer could eat away at her.
If Lady Gaga can call herself a survivor of sexual assault because her aunt was assaulted, then this lady certainly has a right to. After all, she has body parts removed before the cancer could eat away at her.
Um, your attacking Lady Gaga is one of your slams at me, so whatevs. But, Lady Gaga was raped at 19. Sooo, maybe you ought to try this Google thing that you are always crowing about.
So what? That isn't something someone does lightly. And, no doctor is going to perform that kind of surgery unless it is a very high risk patient. I mean, do we really have to play "who is the bigger victim game" now? Wow.
Well, having a double mastectomy and hysterectomy isn't exactly a small undertaking.
No, it's not. And I am not saying it was not traumatic for her. But the fact is, she did not have cancer. And even with the genetic testing, it was still possible she would never get breast cancer.
Well, having a double mastectomy and hysterectomy isn't exactly a small undertaking.
No, it's not. And I am not saying it was not traumatic for her. But the fact is, she did not have cancer. And even with the genetic testing, it was still possible she would never get breast cancer.
Doctors are not going to do this unless there is strong medical evidence that it is her best interests to do it.
But, OK, you win. She's not a victim. Does that now make everyone feel better or something? Kick her out of the Relay for Life events or what? To what end?
Well, having a double mastectomy and hysterectomy isn't exactly a small undertaking.
No, it's not. And I am not saying it was not traumatic for her. But the fact is, she did not have cancer. And even with the genetic testing, it was still possible she would never get breast cancer.
Doctors are not going to do this unless there is strong medical evidence that it is her best interests to do it.
And, your point is what? What do you propose be done? Ban her from the events? Or her wonderful coworkers can beitch slap her for the fine people that they apparently are. Having survived cancer you would think they have more important things to do than this petty arse crap.
And, your point is what? What do you propose be done? Ban her from the events? Or her wonderful coworkers can beitch slap her for the fine people that they apparently are. Having survived cancer you would think they have more important things to do than this petty arse crap.
My point is, in my opinion she is misrepresenting her situation. I do not propose anything be done about it. She is welcome to participate in these events, and as far as I know, they do not require verification of survivor status, so she can all herself anything she wants. My conscious would not allow me to do what this woman is doing.
Well., I don't disagree. Basically, she can say she dodged a bullet. And, most likely she did. And, yeah, i don't think most people would call themselves that. However, you can participate in Relay for Life without having had cancer. She is helping with a good cause. If she is misrepresenting herself, that's on her. But, neither do i think much of her coworkers that seem to want to make an issue out it as well or act like gossipy backstabbers. You dont' agree, then you don't agree. But going on social media behind her back seems pretty bietchy.
Well., I don't disagree. Basically, she can say she dodged a bullet. And, most likely she did. And, yeah, i don't think most people would call themselves that. However, you can participate in Relay for Life without having had cancer. She is helping with a good cause. If she is misrepresenting herself, that's on her. But, neither do i think much of her coworkers that seem to want to make an issue out it as well or act like gossipy backstabbers. You dont' agree, then you don't agree. But going on social media behind her back seems pretty bietchy.
I have participated in Relay for Life and Race for a Cure. You don't have to have cancer to participate. There are special things for survivors - different color shirt, the survivor lap, etc. her participating in those parts is what the co-workers have issue with. I agree, the co-workers are wrong. Unless you're in charge of the event, keep your trap shut.
If Lady Gaga can call herself a survivor of sexual assault because her aunt was assaulted, then this lady certainly has a right to. After all, she has body parts removed before the cancer could eat away at her.
Um, your attacking Lady Gaga is one of your slams at me, so whatevs. But, Lady Gaga was raped at 19. Sooo, maybe you ought to try this Google thing that you are always crowing about.
How in God's name was that a slam agianst you?
Fior someone who is always howling about victimhood, you sure don't hesitate to claim it yourself.
-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 20th of March 2016 04:24:43 PM
Oh don't play your Miss Innocent tripe. You are very calculated in what you say duh. However I dont go whining to Mods like you do.
Lol! WTF are you talking about? If you're going to make accusations, you'd damn well better back them up. I haven't whined to a single mod about anything.
Eh, no she's not really a survivor, but after losing her aunt and mother (and I am sure watching their battle) and then having the gene and making the difficult decision to do the surgery that would prevent that fate for herself, I certainly wouldn't begrudge her walking the lap. Geez. What a thing to get your panties in a wad over.
Relay for life is run by anyone who wants to run. It's to raise awareness and money.
The survivor lap is for those who survived cancer.
Sometimes, a relative or friend will run it for someone in their honor. Cause they're not able to.
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Eh, no she's not really a survivor, but after losing her aunt and mother (and I am sure watching their battle) and then having the gene and making the difficult decision to do the surgery that would prevent that fate for herself, I certainly wouldn't begrudge her walking the lap. Geez. What a thing to get your panties in a wad over.
I agree and I would probably have the surgeries as well, if fact I have had surgery because I had precancerous cells. But I don't claim to be a cancer survivor.
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Eh, no she's not really a survivor, but after losing her aunt and mother (and I am sure watching their battle) and then having the gene and making the difficult decision to do the surgery that would prevent that fate for herself, I certainly wouldn't begrudge her walking the lap. Geez. What a thing to get your panties in a wad over.
Well said. I mean, yeah, why go about saying you are but i don't know why the coworkers are so bothered.
She doesn't really qualify as a survivor but the coworkers are rude. Not their business to police her. She should have just walked the survivor lap in memory of someone who died.
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If she's using the false cancer survivor status to get donations for the race, that is fraud, actually. She needs to be walking for those relatives and being honest with people about it.
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Oh don't play your Miss Innocent tripe. You are very calculated in what you say duh. However I dont go whining to Mods like you do.
Lol! WTF are you talking about? If you're going to make accusations, you'd damn well better back them up. I haven't whined to a single mod about anything.
Enjoy your delusions.
This mod sees right through you. There was no other reason to bring up false accusations against Lady Gaga on this thread except to poke at our own Gaga. She was not the topic of discussion.
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Eh, no she's not really a survivor, but after losing her aunt and mother (and I am sure watching their battle) and then having the gene and making the difficult decision to do the surgery that would prevent that fate for herself, I certainly wouldn't begrudge her walking the lap. Geez. What a thing to get your panties in a wad over.
Agreed.
It's no skin off their noses? What the hell do they care? Is she some how profiting from this?
She considers herself a survivor after losing close family members and having some serious tissue removal to save herself from a hellish disease.
If a child lost his/her parent in the holocaust but they were rescued before the Nazi's got them, would they not be a survivor? I think I would let the person decide for themselves. I certainly would be supportive if they wanted to celebrate their outcome.
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